26" wadkin jointer head rebuild test 5 will get ya 10

[jack forsberg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUeC0p5n1Yg&list=UUI6jpIs2zjN9DmVvK2ZAWXA

[Mike Cutler]

Nice.Very Nice!!!

Jack
You have some amazing machines.:cool:

[David Kumm]

Shows you the old Wadkin doesn't need direct drive or matching belts to be vibration free. I wish I aged as well. Dave

[Bruce Page]

Impressive. That head has some major mass to it!

[Rick Fisher]

Very cool .. What's the diameter of that head ?

[Andrew Kertesz]

Now that's what you call vibration free!! Hell, I'd have a hard time just getting the dimes to stand up. Sounds like a jet warming up for take off....

[jack forsberg]

Very cool .. What's the diameter of that head ?

Rick the head is 5" with skewed knifed and moulding plates too. it can cut moulding 12" wide 2" deep.


here you can see that the cutter block is tapered on the sides the jointer knifes plates/clam go.
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/rmhead001.jpg


the wadkin head has keyed jacking/ knife adjustment screws and you don't need the plates to to hold the knifes from slipping like the Oliver head. the stud hole is through the head and the stud bottom on a small rim on the top edge.
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/rmhead002.jpg

a set of Wadkin spent knifes(no life left) with the key slot at the back on the blade. only half of the knifes are useful in this design. the blade are about 1 1/2" wide when new. You are still able to get theses from wadkin.

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/rmhead003.jpg
i have found regular knifes placed in front of the key screw. this is very dangerous with this type head.
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/rmhead004.jpg
you have a 12" section for moulding knifes in the jointer head and it does not upset the straight knifes.
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/rmhead005.jpg

the hard wood side of the head is thinner than the softwood side of the head by about 5/8" this is what skews the knife.
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/rmhead006.jpg
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/rmhead007.jpg
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/rmhead009.jpg

here are the toe plates i had made with my custom free hand ground knifes. Is that nice or what?

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/head006_zpse0a4ab9d.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/head006_zpse0a4ab9d.jpg.html)



http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/head009_zps9ee56735.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/head009_zps9ee56735.jpg.html)

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/head010_zpsbc2baa10.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/head010_zpsbc2baa10.jpg.html)

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/head015_zps800a11cd.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/head015_zps800a11cd.jpg.html)

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/head014_zpsf7746612.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/head014_zpsf7746612.jpg.html)

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/head013_zpsaf4768f3.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/head013_zpsaf4768f3.jpg.html)



jack

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[Phil Thien]

That jointer is something else.

[paul cottingham]

Hell, my 6" delta x5 (I know, I know) shakes my whole house when I start it up. And it's on a concrete floor!
Ok, maybe I exaggerate a tad.

Very impressive, Jack, very impressive indeed. Makes me wish I had the space and access to such beautiful iron. Even old and rusty, it makes mine look sad.
Love your videos, btw.

[Matt Mattingley]

Jack that is one sweet head. How do the inserts in a tow clamps sound spinning at 7000 RPM?

[jack forsberg]

Jack that is one sweet head. How do the inserts in a tow clamps sound spinning at 7000 RPM?

for those following at home Matt made the molding tooling holder ?toe clamps and sis some major work on the head. The Man is an insane tool and die craftsman. Very lucking to have cross path and made a friendship with someone so in love with the craft.

Have not set it up yet as many things have to be in play for them to work properly Matt. I let you try it at the rust fest in a week times.

[Keith Weber]

Moulding head on a jointer?? That's a new one to me! I've seen them on a planer, but not on a jointer. My first thoughts were how you get a smooth cut without a roller to hold the wood down, but after thinking about, I guess it wouldn't be any different than getting a smooth cut with a straight blade on a jointer.

When I make base cap trim like that on my router table, I use featherboards both vertical and horizontal to hold the wood in place, and I have to keep the wood moving to not get any ripples. Seems to me that it would be hard to keep it down and keep it moving on a jointer with just two hands and no featherboards.

Just curious!

Keith

[Keith Weber]

Also curious as to what motor you have on that thing. It took a while to spool up, which is a good thing. Runs nice and smooth!

Keith

[jack forsberg]

Also curious as to what motor you have on that thing. It took a while to spool up, which is a good thing. Runs nice and smooth!

Keith


the head is heavy so it takes a bit to get that up to speed
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/001_zps740cd750.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/001_zps740cd750.jpg.html)



http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/002_zpsb8eca5a0.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/002_zpsb8eca5a0.jpg.html)

the motor is 5 hp 3 phase and may seam light in today's standards but this head take less power to drive through the wood. the Knife angle is steeper than you straight knife gib heads. think of it as a low angle block plane.

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/002-41.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/002-41.jpg.html)

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/004-35.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/004-35.jpg.html)

the feed motor is 2 hp

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/006-36.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/006-36.jpg.html)

the machine was made for 25 hrzs(old Niagara power grid) and the PO did a bad job of trying to convert it to single phase. i had to find all the motors for this one with the old foot mounted base to fit.

this is how i got it
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/IMG_0192-1.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/IMG_0192-1.jpg.html)

[jack forsberg]

Moulding head on a jointer?? That's a new one to me! I've seen them on a planer, but not on a jointer. My first thoughts were how you get a smooth cut without a roller to hold the wood down, but after thinking about, I guess it wouldn't be any different than getting a smooth cut with a straight blade on a jointer.

When I make base cap trim like that on my router table, I use featherboards both vertical and horizontal to hold the wood in place, and I have to keep the wood moving to not get any ripples. Seems to me that it would be hard to keep it down and keep it moving on a jointer with just two hands and no featherboards.

Just curious!

Keith

i don't plan to hand feed from the top.(power feeder) you can feed the work from below through the thicknesser. but whats great is if feed on top you can do massive curves.

[mreza Salav]

Jack, everytime I look at that motor I think of an atomic bomb. It is huge and looks like such a bomb. This rebuild has taken so looooong. Waiting to see the end.

[David Kumm]

For those asking for jointer - planer advice, this is the real deal. Dave

[Keith Weber]

Hey Jack,

Thanks for the clarifications. I guess I didn't realize that it was also a thicknesser. Everything makes a lot more sense now. Wow! -- That motor is huge for 5hp. I swear that the 7.5hp on my 16" Northfield would fit inside that thing. Between that huge motor and the 150lb. cutter head, it's no wonder that it takes a while to spool up.

Nice job on the resto! You must get those things for nothing as nobody else would be keen to take on something that big and rusty.

Keith

[jack forsberg]

the first few boards making chips.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HIz-3iNNVU&list=UUI6jpIs2zjN9DmVvK2ZAWXA

[Mel Fulks]

Jack, that was extraordinary! No wonder you are a tourist attraction! Folks, this is a must see.

[jack forsberg]

Jack, that was extraordinary! No wonder you are a tourist attraction! Folks, this is a must see.

Thanks Mel. I will do one more when i get it set up better and show its with the moulding knifes making chips.

[Bruce Page]

4000 pounds of industrial art.
Great video, thanks for posting.

[jack forsberg]

4000 pounds of industrial art.
Great video, thanks for posting.

thanks Bruce. making mouldings

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/RMmoulder002_zps970c59d8.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/RMmoulder002_zps970c59d8.jpg.html)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lB21cGbugY

[Mel Fulks]

I've worked with old timers who remembered making mouldings on jointers but your video is the only example I've seen.
It will be a valuable reference. One thing that makes it hard for moderns to imagine that use is being used to the newer jointers with the 3/8 cut (or less) depth capacity. Even a much less sophisticated vintage jointer than yours often will remove an inch of wood in one pass and serve as a straightline saw for straightening edges.