Cost to rubber coat rollers ?

[Rick Fisher]

I have some steel outfeed rollers which are 20" wide. About 2" In diameter.

I am thinking of turning them down 1/4" on a metal lathe, and then having them vulcanized ( or whatever its called ) with Urethane ..

Anyone here have any idea what that would cost ?

[Cary Falk]

From the PM planer thread a couple pages back.


I just got off the phone with Phil @ Western Roller. www.westernroller.com (http://www.westernroller.com/) 541.382.5643. If they don't have it, they can make it... Price isn't too bad either and made in the good 'ol USA!

[Dan Hintz]

Would you be okay with just using the Plast-Dip stuff? Cheap, easy, do-at-home...

[Matt Meiser]

Plasti-Dip peels off pretty easy, by design.

[Tony Joyce]

Western Roller, good products and service. They can make any size in any hardness. Reasonable.

Tony

[Peter Quinn]

One more bump for western roller....use to do all the rollers at my last job, good stuff, give a call and they quote quickly.

[Myk Rian]

Just a thought, but if you take 1/4" off the rollers, you might want to have a tad more than 1/4" rubber/urethane applied.
It will compress during use.

[Rick Fisher]

Good advice Myk ..

[John TenEyck]

Reducing the diameter may not be a good idea structurally. I'd think twice before doing that.

John

[Lee Schierer]

Plasti-Dip peels off pretty easy, by design.

If you apply a coating of lacquer before applying the plasti-dip it will adhere pretty tightly to the metal. A certain plier manufacturer uses this process to secure their grips to pliers.

[Rick Lizek]

Sounds like a planer feed issue. Often what you want and what you need are two different things. Having spent many years as a machine technician and going to schools and shops, typically feed issues were solved by simply just waxing the bed.
what is the brand of the planer? I've been tuning and repairing these machines for over 30 years and never found the need to put rubber rollers on it. Set the bed rolls at two thousandths and wax the table. The cheaper fix is usually the most reliable.

[David Kumm]

I'd look hard at what problem needs to be fixed. I've heard of more wishing their mrubber rollers were stel than the other way around. Most high end planers have steel rollers. Dave

[Rick Fisher]

Hmm.. Glad I posted this.

There is no planer problem. Its in 100 pieces on the shop floor. Its a 2000 Griggio PSA 520 that sat in a shipping container for 10 years and is rusty as heck. I am restoring it to good shape again ..

David .. this is right up your alley ..

It has 2 x powered outfeed rollers in Steel. I always thought Rubber coated was better ??

http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m455/jokerbird_photo/Griggio%20PF400%20and%20PSA%20520/P1040910_zpscb3bb7a9.jpg (http://s335.photobucket.com/user/jokerbird_photo/media/Griggio%20PF400%20and%20PSA%20520/P1040910_zpscb3bb7a9.jpg.html)

The Rollers where also very rusty .. I wire wheeled them with a 4-1/2" Grinder. Some more sensitive parts where de-rusted with electrolysis..

http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m455/jokerbird_photo/Griggio%20PF400%20and%20PSA%20520/IMG_20140524_144633_zps0832ff20.jpg (http://s335.photobucket.com/user/jokerbird_photo/media/Griggio%20PF400%20and%20PSA%20520/IMG_20140524_144633_zps0832ff20.jpg.html)
http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m455/jokerbird_photo/Griggio%20PF400%20and%20PSA%20520/IMG_20140531_181802_zpsb607ac52.jpg (http://s335.photobucket.com/user/jokerbird_photo/media/Griggio%20PF400%20and%20PSA%20520/IMG_20140531_181802_zpsb607ac52.jpg.html)

[johnny means]

We are just men, not gods, not giants, just men. And the secret of steel has always carried with it a mystery. You must learn its riddle, Conan, you must learn its discipline, for no one, no one in this world can you trust, not men, not women, not beasts... This you can trust.

wish my Felder had your steel rollers. Keep in mind that rubber rollers are wear items and do breakdown eventually. Mine are leaving a pretty nasty residue on everyrhing now and have worn areas that dont always engage so well.

[David Kumm]

Rick, sweet machine. I just got a SAC 530 up and running and it also has two steel outfeed rollers. My 299 had only one but also steel and neither has ever had a problem pulling the stock through. Finish with a green scotch brite pad and keep the steel. Dave

[Rick Fisher]

Really glad i posted this .. I will stay steel. I just always assumed rubber was a premium .. Makes so much sense. Thanks for the responses David and Johnny

How is the SAC 530 ? I am willing to bet its basically the same idea as mine ? Sure a well built machine compared to my Asian Import machine.. What motor is on the SAC ? The Griggio is 9hp .. Which is considerably more than my GI .. Gonna be $200 just for a breaker and Tec cable to wire it in .. lol Sigh.. Expensive hobby ..

[David Kumm]

SAC would be very similar. Very heavy build, about 1800-1900 lbs. Still way lighter than my 299. Tersa head which is why I got it. Four post design with separate motors for feed and table adjustment. 9 hp. All electrics seem to be off the shelf except for DC motor controller which looks proprietary. Found a spare so I have that covered. SAC went under in 2011 so their stuff is reasonable used. Miss not having Pete at parts pronto who helps with SCMI though. Dave