blade for a stanley 112?

[miguel bernardo]

Hi all, i´m refurbishing an old (aren´t they all?) stanley 112 that i got from fleabay without a blade. so now i´m curious at which way to go regarding the aftermarket blade? veritas A2 (thicker and tougher but maybe harder to roll a nice burr?) or an Hock carbon (cheaper, but thinner and should wear faster). or am i just overthinking this? i´ll be using the scraper plane mostly on rosewoods and ebony, FWIW.

my plane blades are all A2 (except for one PM V11 and a white steel kanna) and i really dislike sharpening them when compared to an old Sheffield or japanese steel, but i guess for hardwoods it makes sense to choose A2.

thanks!
Miguel.

[bridger berdel]

there is a fast curve of diminishing returns with increasing the hardness of scraper blades. spring hardness is just about right.

[miguel bernardo]

ok, thanks.

[David Weaver]

I don't know what hock's scraper blade hardness is, but IIRC, veritas had something in mid-high spring temper for A2 and LN did, too. It has to be soft enough to roll a burr without chipping.

Locate David Charlesworth's discussion of preparing a scraper edge and making a jig to roll the burr - it's a fantastic method for a scraper that's hard enough to hold its edge for a while (and all of the harder scraper blades are). He does it in a video, but I think he also did a magazine article describing the same thing.

[david charlesworth]

Thanks David.

I would thoroughly recommend the01 Hock blade. They are excellent and work very well in the 112. I see no need for extra thickness.

Best wishes,
David Charlesworth

[miguel bernardo]

thanks David and David, Hock it is (or was, as i already ordered it). i can´t find Mr. Charlesworth´s video, but got enough hints searching an UK forum.

best,
Miguel.

[david charlesworth]

My 6th DVD available from L-N or me, covers 112 use and blade preparation, as well as a number of other techniques ! It is long.

Best wishes,
David

[miguel bernardo]

i´m aware of that David. TBH i was considering the book instead (number two, right?) - somehow i get more feedback out of reading than watching a DVD.

[Daniel Hartmann]

The hock blades are fantastic. I much prefer them over the lee valley A2 blades

[david charlesworth]

Miguel,

Yes, No. 2. Unfortunately my publishers have "lost" the wherewithal to print any more, so second hand might be the best bet.

I just enjoyed the opportunity of mentioning the DVD !

Best wishes,
David

[mike holden]

David,
could you please give us the title of your sixth dvd? Lie-Nielsen does not have them numbered.
Thanks,
Mike

[David Weaver]

http://www.lie-nielsen.com/dvds/furniture-making-techniques-five-topics/

Of course, I'm not stumping for LN - find it from any retailer (craftsmanstudio ships free). it is an enormously long DVD as David says, and is sort of a catch-all for various things.

For those individuals who have ever purchased a scraper and tried to get the burr to sit at a certain angle by finesse, the setup that's presented in it makes getting the angle perfect a guaranteed process, and the quality of the burr allows a scraper to get a finish almost as nice as a plane.

I'm also, of course, not affiliated with David, but will take the opportunity to point out things like this that provide excellent results and keep you using tools instead of fiddling with them.

[david charlesworth]

Mike,

It is called "Five Topics" 188 minutes.

Back bevels and scraper planes for difficult timber & veneer. Decorative bevels, planing round corners (such as rail/stile intersections). Using and tuning shoulder planes.

It is the best produced of my 6 DVDs.

Currently working on "The Secret Mitre Dovetail", which is filmed in my workshop in England.

Best wishes,
David

[mike holden]

Thank you, dvd is ordered.
Mike