And you thought you had everything...

[Eric DeSilva]

285095
Company in upstate NY using old automotive assembly robots for CNC furniture making.
http://www.timbrny.com/#!totoro-timbr/cqwx

[Rich Engelhardt]

:("Old" robots......

That makes me feel ancient...

[Joe Hillmann]

I wonder how hard a robot like that is to program compared to a 3 axis cnc.

Did you see the price on the finished stools? $2600 for a small one.

[Kent A Bathurst]

:("Old" robots......

That makes me feel ancient...

And your point is? :p :p

[Peter Quinn]

Cnc carved stumps. For $3000. Huh.

[Jim Rimmer]

Cnc carved stumps. For $3000. Huh.

Now that's funny. :p And I was thinking the same thing.

[Bradley Gray]

Reminds me of a Warner Brothers Cartoon, making trees into toothpicks.

[Mike McCann]

thats alot of money for a chunk of wood

[Matt Krusen]

Pretty neat looking when its finished, but holy crap that's an obscene amount of money! I guess they're charging a "robot premium" :confused:

[Kevin Bourque]

"Theres a sucker born every minute"

[John McClanahan]

I think I have a few of those cheese boards somewhere in my scrap pile. :D


John

[Eric DeSilva]

Cnc carved stumps. For $3000. Huh.

As I have to remind people on craigslist when they point to other overpriced items--sure, that's what they are *asking*.

Then again, I'm sure there are NYC designers with clients that don't really care how much it costs.

[Wade Lippman]

285095
Company in upstate NY using old automotive assembly robots for CNC furniture making.
http://www.timbrny.com/#!totoro-timbr/cqwx

I was curious where in upstate NY they were. According to their area code it is Manhattan. I guess I am really upstate.

I think the $3,000 is to cover getting it to dry without splitting.

[Brian Tymchak]

Hmm. I think I can turn those out for $2500 per... :)

[Michael W. Clark]

I wonder how hard a robot like that is to program compared to a 3 axis cnc

It looks similar to some of the grinding robots we used in the foundry. Most were 6-axis, one was 7-axis. The seventh axis was for the robot to translate on the floor. It was pretty cool to watch one of ABB's biggest robots move along the floor gringing a casting and throwing sparks 30 feet up into the rafters!

Our's all had safety cages so you couldn't get too close without disabling the robot. We had software for teaching it the program offline, then you only had to fine tune it, minimizing downtime.

[Erik Loza]

...I'm sure there are NYC designers with clients that don't really care how much it costs.

This ^^^

I have a friend who was a metal and wood sculptor/furniture maker in NYC during the 90's and that pretty much sums it up right there. He could ask whatever he wanted.

Also, not to make to case for this particular artist but for those of us who are saying to ourselves, "Heck, I could knock that out on a lathe, no problem...", the design of those stools I'll bet is a lot more challenging to execute if you don't have the robot. Because of the feet. The main body profile? Sure, no problem. Three offset, symmetrical feet though...

Erik Loza
Minimax USA

[Andrew Joiner]

As I have to remind people on craigslist when they point to other overpriced items--sure, that's what they are *asking*.

Then again, I'm sure there are NYC designers with clients that don't really care how much it costs.

These products are very"green". After all they're made by recycled robots that would have been killed if they weren't saved by this company. Thus the premium price.

[Charles Coolidge]

I wouldn't pay more than $100 for one of those stools and about the 4th time I bashed a shin on the thing it would get heaved onto the burn pile.

[Kelly Colin Mark]

I would submit that for pretty much any given job, almost every one outside thinks people in that job are overpaid : Doctors, lawyers, politicians, bankers, athletes, singers, actors, businessmen, plumbers, mechanics, electricians, bus drivers, civil servants, etc.

If this work is that out-of-line expensive - then why aren't we all making that stuff and selling it ?

I know I think I am grossly underpaid, yet my neighbours don't.

[Ole Anderson]

My first thought, before I saw the price, was of using a sledgehammer to drive 10 penny nails.

[Joe Hillmann]

This ^^^

I have a friend who was a metal and wood sculptor/furniture maker in NYC during the 90's and that pretty much sums it up right there. He could ask whatever he wanted.

Also, not to make to case for this particular artist but for those of us who are saying to ourselves, "Heck, I could knock that out on a lathe, no problem...", the design of those stools I'll bet is a lot more challenging to execute if you don't have the robot. Because of the feet. The main body profile? Sure, no problem. Three offset, symmetrical feet though...

Erik Loza
Minimax USA

I think the feet could be very easy made with a duplicarver. If I were making them I would first turn the body on the lathe. Then turn one foot on the lathe from a separate piece. Then use a duplicarver to make two more legs. Then attach the legs with glue. The first stool with the legs glued on would be used as a pattern to make the next one out of a single piece of wood using a lathe and duplicarver.

[Andrew Kertesz]

Usually turning feet like that requires offset turning. To turn a log that size offset is going to require one heck of a lathe.... From what the website says their material cost is $0 because it comes from a friend that is an arborist. Logs just headed for the chipper. I wonder if he knows what they are turning around his free wood for...

[Kevin Wolfe]

Hmm. I think I can turn those out for $2500 per... :)

Turn......heck, I'll carve it by hand with a recycle spoon, while sitting on a reused bucket, wearing my salvation army clothes for far less than $2500.

[Erik Loza]

I think the feet could be very easy made with a duplicarver. If I were making them I would first turn the body on the lathe. Then turn one foot on the lathe from a separate piece. Then use a duplicarver to make two more legs. Then attach the legs with glue. The first stool with the legs glued on would be used as a pattern to make the next one out of a single piece of wood using a lathe and duplicarver.

You know, after I made that post, that very idea occurred to me. It's a great idea. More practical than contouring it as a single unit.

I suspect that part of the marketing plan of the mfr. is probably, "Your piece is made by a reclaimed robot". "It was easy. I just glued the feet on", does not sound as hip, LOL.

Erik Loza
Minimax USA

[Jim Finn]

Have you seen this one?

[Art Mann]

I'm just wondering why they don't make something that is attractive and useful with that nice robot instead of just a trip hazard.

[Larry Edgerton]

A friend of mine manufactured robots for the auto industry, and that is a waste of a robots strengths. I was thinking of something a bit more complex. I watched as he set up a machine for Motor Wheel that would machine out aluminum wheels from cast blanks in just a few minutes and was thinking it would be something more along those lines. Something hard to duplicate.

I love the machine in Jim's post!

Larry