David Coburn
03-14-2014, 10:07 PM
Well, I had a really nice natural edge bowl going but it got away from me... I was trying to go down an internal side to thin the wall a bit more and got a bad catch... I've got a lot of questions...
1) Question #1 is: "How do you go deep in a narrow bowl, almost a wide mouthed vase?"
maybe it is a wide mouthed vase... It's a total of 6" tall and at the widest spot the rim is also 6" wide. It quickly narrows to about 4" and goes straight down... maybe narrows a bit more.. It was definitely tight and I couldn't get my rest in a very good position.. I was hanging a long way off (at least in my novice mind, it was a long way off)... But I've been watching some of the youtube videos and it seems they hang a long way off in these situations all the time. I made it in to about 4" but it was getting very difficult to get deeper due to my tool rest, especially at the turn between the side and the bottom.. It was also hard just going across the bottom. I put my big tool rest away and got out the bowl rest I bought the other day, but it didn't really help much. I as able to get right at the center by reversing the direction of motor. I was trying to use a 1/2" bowl gouge and a 3/8" bowl gouge. I tried a scraper but I rarely use it and it didn't feel right (seemed really grabby) so I went back to my gouges...
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2) Also, is there any hope of salvaging this? I went ahead and put cynoacrylate into teh crack and then rubbed shavings all over it (inside and out).. I was able to stop some wet wood cracking the other day by doing this... I know it's not at all the same thing but I really hate to just give up on this one because it was going to be really nice... I've got some transtint dye that I had intended to use anyway, which would kind of camaflouge the repair.. Just looking for thoughts on how you guys might approach this fix or if it is even possible... Here's a picture of the actual crack (outside).. I don't have a really good picture of the inside gouged out area.. It only traverses about 1/4 of the diamater (maybe 1/3rd)...
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3) Lastly, what tools (cutters and supports) do you need to turn a vase (wide at the top, narrow at the bottom, and deep...)? This is basically what I was trying to do but either didn't have the skill yet (very possible) or was going at it incorrectly...
Here are just a few more pictures of the situation to give you more information. I would appreciate any help, advice, personal experience that you would like to share...
A few more pics..
I made about 4" deep:
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Widest point at rim is 6":
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The bowl tool rest that I was trying to use... 1st pic is right after the catch... second shows gives a little size reference for the rest:
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thanks,
david
1) Question #1 is: "How do you go deep in a narrow bowl, almost a wide mouthed vase?"
maybe it is a wide mouthed vase... It's a total of 6" tall and at the widest spot the rim is also 6" wide. It quickly narrows to about 4" and goes straight down... maybe narrows a bit more.. It was definitely tight and I couldn't get my rest in a very good position.. I was hanging a long way off (at least in my novice mind, it was a long way off)... But I've been watching some of the youtube videos and it seems they hang a long way off in these situations all the time. I made it in to about 4" but it was getting very difficult to get deeper due to my tool rest, especially at the turn between the side and the bottom.. It was also hard just going across the bottom. I put my big tool rest away and got out the bowl rest I bought the other day, but it didn't really help much. I as able to get right at the center by reversing the direction of motor. I was trying to use a 1/2" bowl gouge and a 3/8" bowl gouge. I tried a scraper but I rarely use it and it didn't feel right (seemed really grabby) so I went back to my gouges...
284800
2) Also, is there any hope of salvaging this? I went ahead and put cynoacrylate into teh crack and then rubbed shavings all over it (inside and out).. I was able to stop some wet wood cracking the other day by doing this... I know it's not at all the same thing but I really hate to just give up on this one because it was going to be really nice... I've got some transtint dye that I had intended to use anyway, which would kind of camaflouge the repair.. Just looking for thoughts on how you guys might approach this fix or if it is even possible... Here's a picture of the actual crack (outside).. I don't have a really good picture of the inside gouged out area.. It only traverses about 1/4 of the diamater (maybe 1/3rd)...
284801 284802
3) Lastly, what tools (cutters and supports) do you need to turn a vase (wide at the top, narrow at the bottom, and deep...)? This is basically what I was trying to do but either didn't have the skill yet (very possible) or was going at it incorrectly...
Here are just a few more pictures of the situation to give you more information. I would appreciate any help, advice, personal experience that you would like to share...
A few more pics..
I made about 4" deep:
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Widest point at rim is 6":
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The bowl tool rest that I was trying to use... 1st pic is right after the catch... second shows gives a little size reference for the rest:
284805 284806
thanks,
david