Dust Cyclone Kit

[Ken Salisbury]

It might of an interest to some folks. Here is a link to a new site which has a Cyclone Dust Collector Kit.

www.dusteliminator.com

[Rik Rickerson]

Ken

What great timing. I'm finding out that my current 1.5hp oneida and ducting is under powered for my larger shop. When I bought it, I was certain it would always meet my needs. This time around I'll be doing more research before I make the purchase.

Take care,
Rik

[Kyri]

I've been thinking about converting my Jet 2hp unit into a cyclone but I guess I've been too lazy to make a cyclone myself. This would be great for lazy people like me that want to improve their dust collection systems.

Hovey

[Paul Kunkel]

I wonder what I could sell my Oneida for.......?

[Dennis Peacock]

Originally posted by Kyri
I've been thinking about converting my Jet 2hp unit into a cyclone but I guess I've been too lazy to make a cyclone myself. This would be great for lazy people like me that want to improve their dust collection systems.

Hovey

I will be converting my 2hp two bag DC over to a Cyclone. I will be using the blower and using the DC Cyclone that Terry H. and Bill Pentz designed. I will be posting my findings and how I did it here.....when I get it done...

Dennis - :D

[Bart Leetch]

I think this cyclone kit is a great idea. I just wish my ceiling was higher.

[Mike Brewster]

I'll need a cyclone in the next year or so and this might be just the ticket. I knew that Terry was working on something but I hadn't seen the web site.

Thanks to Terry also for putting this out and of course to Bill for doing the research.

Mike

[Terry Hatfield]

Mike,

Thanks!!

It has been quite a process. My shop is littered with bits of solder....chunks of metal..and cyclone parts are everywhere!!!

We are almost there. The test guy's are constructing theirs right now. The last remianing bugs are being solved as we speak. The group of testers we assembled have been a great help.

I will have pics and test results on the website as soon as posssible. I just finished reconfiguring some ductwork. Blower and cyclone will be completed this weekend.

Thanks,

Terry

[Rick Potter]

I don't claim to know enough about computers to say there is a problem with this site, but while looking it over I got TWO different messages (not E-mail) which were labeled messenger service.

One was VERY personal, and the other warned me my computer was wide open to these messages, and offered to help.

I have NEVER seen this type message before, and there was no way to report it to AOL as with spam e-mail.

As I said above, I cannot say for sure it was because of this site, which I used to also read Bill Pentz's site.....but.......I have never been bothered with this type message before.

Rick Potter

Edited by Admin- Rick, the problam you are having must be from another source, SawMill Creek does not have messanger service. There is a Pop-Up Window for private messages if you have it enabled but we don't have any Messenger Service anywhere on our Network.

[Ken Salisbury]

Originally posted by Rick Potter
I don't claim to know enough about computers to say there is a problem with this site, but while looking it over I got TWO different messages (not E-mail) which were labeled messenger service.

One was VERY personal, and the other warned me my computer was wide open to these messages, and offered to help.

I have NEVER seen this type message before, and there was no way to report it to AOL as with spam e-mail.

As I said above, I cannot say for sure it was because of this site, which I used to also read Bill Pentz's site.....but.......I have never been bothered with this type message before.

Rick Potter

Edited by Admin- Rick, the problam you are having must be from another source, SawMill Creek does not have messanger service. There is a Pop-Up Window for private messages if you have it enabled but we don't have any Messenger Service anywhere on our Network.

Rick,
I don't believe the problem was from viewing Terry's web site. I have visited there numerous times since he opened it and have discovered no problems and no unwanted pop-ups or unwanted messages as a result of those visits. I even have a pop-up killer on my computer and I disabled that temporaily this morning just to check out Terry's site. Your problem must have come from another source. Your "caution" about Terry's site may be unwarranted. I think you should access it again and see what happens.

[Dennis Peacock]

Good Morning Folks......Let me put this to rest......

I am the developer of the www.dusteliminator.com web site. There are <b>no</b> cookies being issued.......
There are <b>no</b> web bots being used......except for the link with Site Meter who is our web counter service. I have used Site Meter for a long time personally and have _never_ had any problems from Site Meter.
What do I use to build a site? How about Windows Notepad, and also AceHTML Web editing software that you can download and try for yourself.

You are more than welcome to "View Source" on any or all of the web site pages and you too will see that it is "very plain jane".

On another note......If you are sure it is coming from the DC web site, I want to know about it and I will deal with tracking it down. It is all intended to be "good clean fun".....and run a small business.....that is all......

I hope I haven't stepped on any toes here.....but I just wanted to clear the air about the code used to develop my personal web site AND dusteliminator.com........Check it out and you will see for yourself.

Have a great day,
Dennis - :D

[Steve Roxberg]

Originally posted by Rick Potter
I don't claim to know enough about computers to say there is a problem with this site, but while looking it over I got TWO different messages (not E-mail) which were labeled messenger service.

One was VERY personal, and the other warned me my computer was wide open to these messages, and offered to help.

I have NEVER seen this type message before, and there was no way to report it to AOL as with spam e-mail.

As I said above, I cannot say for sure it was because of this site, which I used to also read Bill Pentz's site.....but.......I have never been bothered with this type message before.

Rick Potter

Edited by Admin- Rick, the problam you are having must be from another source, SawMill Creek does not have messanger service. There is a Pop-Up Window for private messages if you have it enabled but we don't have any Messenger Service anywhere on our Network.

When you state "This site" are you referring to the Dust collector site or Saw mill Creek? My best guess is that you have a virus on your computer and should run some antivirus software.

If you are connected via Cable or DSL and don't have a firewall or Router installed you are also wide open to attacks.

[Terry Hatfield]

Dennis stated this very clearly in a earlier reply , but I felt compelled to reply in person.

I can assure you that pop ups are NOT coming from my site. I absoulutely HATE popups. I have not and will not promote ANYTHING of this nature EVER on my site. I am just trying to help my fellow woodworkers and make a VERY modest buck in the process. Nothing more........nothing less.

Thanks,

Terry Hatfield

[Mike Cutler]

Terry and Dennis. I just tried your Dust Eliminator Website and found no problems. I tested it with Windows ME and Internet Explorer.with all security functions disabled, and the system left wide open. Norton Internet Security is not installed on this machine. I also checked it with Mac OS 9.1 and OS X, both using IE 5.0, on my primary computer and your site was clean. I believe Rick may have had a cookie running in the background on his system and it launched at the same time he visited your site, no way to tell what launched it tho'. Rick if you can, clean out your History files, Temporary Internet files and cookies and try the site again. If it still happens I'm sure Terry and Dennis would like to know, to start tracking down whomever is piggy backing on their site.

[Patrick Smith]

Guys, the Messenger service is a so-called "core" component of Windows networking, and if you get a pop-up with that label, then the Messenger service is running on YOUR PC. Anyone can send a message to anyone else with simple commands - this is not an Internet thing. It is also easy to script those messages into a program that sends multiple messages to multiple recipients. Popping a "real" message on a screen is a sure way to freak people out. I used this all the time when I was an admin, to users on the network. It was one-way chat via Windows networking before IM existed.
I see those messages a lot on my Mom's computer - she has a cable modem and is not secured behind a cheap router. Are you on a cable modem? Not that it makes a difference, I ask only for my own curiosity. She got them because I forgot to disable the Messenger service when I built her PC. Just disable the service and you won't get them anymore.

You can immediately stop the Messenger service in NT, 2000 and XP by going to a command prompt and typing:

net stop messenger
Then remember to go into Services (computer management) and disable the service. Stopping the service only keeps it stopped until the next time you reboot. Disabling the service will stop if from starting automatically in the future.

Hope that helps,
Patrick
MCSE

[Rick Potter]

I want to thank the guys who explained this to me. As I said, I had never seen this type message before and it kind of freaked me out.

I will try disabling the messenger service as explained above, and thank you for the info. I never even heard of it before.

To answer the questions: I have AOL , on a phone line (dial up), no broad band, no cable, no dsl.

Finally, Terry....I apologise for any trouble my nervousness may have caused you. As I said, I am not computer savy by any stretch of the imagination, and when the message came up telling me my computer was wide open to messages like this....and I had never seen a message like it before....I freaked.

By the way, I LOVED the web site, and am very interested in becoming a customer.

Rick Potter

[Terry Hatfield]

Rick,

No problem. I'm glad we got to the bottom of the issue.

I got my cyclone finished this weekend. Here is a pic.

[Ken Salisbury]

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[Ted Shrader]

Originally posted by Terry H in NW Ar.

I got my cyclone finished this weekend. Here is a pic.

Terry -

Couple of questions: Does the insulated outfeed help a lot with the noise? Is there a filter in the exhaust before it goes outside?


Looks pretty good!

Ted

[Terry Hatfield]

Ted,

Yes , the insulated flex for the outlet helped lower the noise level tremendously. I don't think it is any louder now than my old Griz 1029.

The outlet does not vent outside. The final filtration is the filter in the pic. It is originally intended as a intake filter for a gas turbine that powers a electrical generation plant. 282 sq. ft. of filter media. 99.5% eff.@.5 microns. Overall size is 13X34. I found a dealer locally. Cost $64 plus shipping. Manufactured by Camfil-Farr.

Thanks,

Terry

[Ted Shrader]

Originally posted by Terry H in NW Ar.
Ted,

Yes , the insulated flex for the outlet helped lower the noise level tremendously. I don't think it is any louder now than my old Griz 1029.

The outlet does not vent outside. The final filtration is the filter in the pic. It is originally intended as a intake filter for a gas turbine that powers a electrical generation plant. 282 sq. ft. of filter media. 99.5% eff.@.5 microns. Overall size is 13X34. I found a dealer locally. Cost $64 plus shipping. Manufactured by Camfil-Farr.

Thanks,

Terry

Terry -

Thanks for the info. You may have part of my tax refund check coming your way. :)

Ted

[Rick Potter]

or two:

You say it is not noisier than your old Grizzly. I assume that is a normal two bagger collector?

I run my current (really noisy) Onieda outside with no filter. It works fine, and I hardly get any dust outside from it. I assume this one would work the same without filter??

By the way, I heard a new Onieda at a show and it was much quieter than my early model, which is a LOT noisier than my Delta 1 1/2 HP unit which is also in the shop.

Rick Potter

[Terry Hatfield]

Rick,

My old collector is a Grizzly 1029 2 hp. regular bag collector.

I can't comment on the noise of the Oneida because I have no experience at all with their units.

The amount of noise from a cyclone is mostly dependent on the clearances inside the blower housing. The tighter the clearances the more the air is compressed and the more noise you get. I left 2 1/2" clearance from the edge of the impeller to the closest point inside the housing. I think that really helped. I might be sacrificing a bit of performance by opening up this distance, but not much. If you look inside a siren you will see it looks a lot like a spiral blower!!!

I think exhausting outside would be just fine. I ran my unit a bit with no filter to test how much dust came out the outlet. I saw nothing come out but it's only been running a couple of days and more testing will be done. I will have cfm/sp numbers and a fan curve soon. I will post the results on the web site. I am also constructing another blower using a Leeson 3 hp. and a 14" jet fan . Dennis Peacock is getting that one for his cyclone. We will be testing that one also as that is what most folks are wanting to build.

Thanks,

Terry