resawing in the north

[jack forsberg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSk0aTmcGDs&feature=c4-overview&list=UUI6jpIs2zjN9DmVvK2ZAWXA

[Allen Grenz]

Cool! :D Nice large shop too.!

[Charles Wiggins]

What am I missing? Other than seeing his breath it looks pretty much the same as resawing in the south.

[Peter Quinn]

Love your vids Jack.....saw meets wood...cold wood. Ever re saw frozen oak Charles? Its like the winter olympics of wood. Everythings better with frost on your beard. Here I am bemoaning the fact that its been rarely above 50 in my shop, and Jack reminds me people tolerate much more sever conditions. The only question I'm left asking is what is the best veneer glue for stave core......when its -25 degrees? Doesn't epoxy make a little heat? Lets all huddle around the epoxy pot to stay warm!

[jack forsberg]

Love your vids Jack.....saw meets wood...cold wood. Ever re saw frozen oak Charles? Its like the winter olympics of wood. Everythings better with frost on your beard. Here I am bemoaning the fact that its been rarely above 50 in my shop, and Jack reminds me people tolerate much more sever conditions. The only question I'm left asking is what is the best veneer glue for stave core......when its -25 degrees? Doesn't epoxy make a little heat? Lets all huddle around the epoxy pot to stay warm!

type 3 in the heated bench shop Pete.

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/stavecore2004_zpsa0debcfc.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/stavecore2004_zpsa0debcfc.jpg.html)

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/stavecore2005_zps01ffeff6.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/stavecore2005_zps01ffeff6.jpg.html)

[Rick Moyer]

The off cut dude is a hearty sole. No gloves, open coat, exposed ears in -25 degrees.

[jack forsberg]

What am I missing? Other than seeing his breath it looks pretty much the same as resawing in the south.

not sure you have to show me:cool:

[Peter Quinn]

Are those slip tenon slots done on the Maka Jack?

[jack forsberg]

Are those slip tenon slots done on the Maka Jack?

no that would be the Stenner chain mortiser
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/stavecore2007_zps077558b0.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/stavecore2007_zps077558b0.jpg.html)

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/stave3002_zpsc45026cd.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/stave3002_zpsc45026cd.jpg.html)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR3u_B1NU2k&list=UUI6jpIs2zjN9DmVvK2ZAWXA& feature=c4-overview

[mreza Salav]

Jack, I forgot to ask in the other thread, is the core pine?

[jack forsberg]

Jack, I forgot to ask in the other thread, is the core pine?

yes a pine core made from 1x12 kiln dry pine 1 and 2 grade $900 a thousand. the 1 x 12 mean its big trees and old groth for the most part, i let the cores set a week before i glue faces or dress. and on the stiles i finger join white Oak on the ends so that the core is only internal.

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/stavecore004_zps6ae2efc7.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/stavecore2001_zps3fdcce63.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/stavecore004_zps6ae2efc7.jpg.html)

[Mel Fulks]

Interesting,Jack .But I think your blade has too many teeth. You would have been better served with one still pic as in our minds we would have let you go faster! I told you I didn't think you could avoid making stave core doors !

[Doug Garson]

OK you got me Jack. Interesting resawing and joinery but what are you making?

[Larry Edgerton]

I had to make a choice between finishing my new house or heating up my new shop, and I chose the house. Yesterday I was out cutting out cabinet parts on the panel saw at ten below and was really regretting my decision. First the belts decided that this was the time they were going to blow. They were old and I had spares on hand, but crawling around under a saw at 10 below was not my idea of fun. By the time I finished the job the bearing on the saw were making noise so they will have to be replaced, but as I have a deadline I did not have a choice. Git er done....

I had moved a few single phase tools into the basement of the house so I was able to work the rest of the day in the heat, then two motors on my panel router decided to take a dump. Both of these routers had recently been used in extreme cold as well, so I am thinking tools do not like sub zero temps. Just a guess.

Nice looking work Jack. Ironic that we have so many tools but no heat don't you think?

Larry

[Jim Matthews]

OK you got me Jack. Interesting resawing and joinery but what are you making?

Glad I'm not the only one that can't make this out...
I was going to guess it was a door.

Not that I've got a clue, really.

[jack forsberg]

Mel
I was going to use the Hitachi but i needed a blade and there $250 not only that i needed 4 slices out of 4/4 3/16" thick. So we use the Wadkin 30" because the blade is thiner and that was the blade that was in it. The Wadkin is a high speed saw runing running at 9420 SFPM so its not a resaw band saw as its to fast. still it will do it.

Here is the Hitachi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP-eDA51Nhk


as for what i am build its a stave core door that is 3" thick 48"x90" in 1/4 white oak.

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/stave3004_zpsbf4fb9c2.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/stave3004_zpsbf4fb9c2.jpg.html)

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/stave3007_zps9c029165.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/stave3007_zps9c029165.jpg.html)

[Mel Fulks]

Just joshing ,Jack. Most impressed with your skill and shop. Just trying to help you become a better film director !

[Jeff Duncan]

Man, that's some cold working conditions! My first though is you need to put some heat in there, but I'm guessing from the extension cords through the snow that's more of a shed and probably not a lot of work going on in there? I keep my shop at 64 F as I prefer being somewhat comfortable while I work. Even then if I'm doing detailed work and not moving around a lot it's a bit chilly. If I'm doing a fair amount of glue-ups or spraying then I crank the heat. This has been a cold winter though…..I'm guessing I'll be over $3k for shop heat this year:(

good luck,
JeffD

[Peter Quinn]

I love the finger jointed end grain on the stiles. That's a nice touch. Good protection for the pine core. I made my garage/barn side door stave core last winter but used mahogany core. Considered doing the ends, decided the 7' tall visitors would have to live with it! Real nice touch though especially if a balcony or such makes door tops visable. Going to add that trick to my play book! Nice chain mortiser. Was scratching my head on the square slip tenons in rails.....you have all the best toys!

[Steve Rozmiarek]

Thanks for posting Jack. I have a set of doors in my future, and it was fun to watch how to do it with the good tools. Have to say though, I'm going to be wishing I had a chain mortiser.

That resaw, I see Hitachi's going pretty cheap periodically, is that what that is? Are they ok machines? Yours seemed to work very well, even with the blade issue.

[jack forsberg]

Thanks for posting Jack. I have a set of doors in my future, and it was fun to watch how to do it with the good tools. Have to say though, I'm going to be wishing I had a chain mortiser.

That resaw, I see Hitachi's going pretty cheap periodically, is that what that is? Are they ok machines? Yours seemed to work very well, even with the blade issue.

The problem with the Hitachi is the OEM motor was junk. It was a high speed brush motor(think router) that was geared to run the wheel's at 900 rpm. it would run on 120 volts single phase. You could get this machine in 3 phase but only in Japan. the blades side guilds were made of plastic(the good stuff)
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/hitichib600a007_zps3dcc5175.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/hitichib600a007_zps3dcc5175.jpg.html)
and well they did hold up would ware fast. I made mine in bearing bronzes and put a 5hp 3 phase motor on mine. there little machines that will tension a 3" blade with not problem.

I picked mine up for $400 and had the other stuff like the motor in the rat hole.

stock saw motor
282347

My beefed up one
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/600002_zps756d0f16.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/600002_zps756d0f16.jpg.html)

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/hitichib600a003_zpsc7651bd4.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/hitichib600a003_zpsc7651bd4.jpg.html)

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad111/tool613/wadkin/600001_zps4fb7b847.jpg (http://s927.photobucket.com/user/tool613/media/wadkin/600001_zps4fb7b847.jpg.html)

[Michael Mahan]

Now that's a Manly sized BS blade if I ever seen one !

I Love your mobility kit ;)

[Peter Kelly]

Some nice mods on that Hitachi. I've often contemplated picking up one of those or a Makita but never felt too confident with the universal motors that either originally were equipped with. Could never understand the logic behind underpowering them like that.

[jack forsberg]

Some nice mods on that Hitachi. I've often contemplated picking up one of those or a Makita but never felt too confident with the universal motors that either originally were equipped with. Could never understand the logic behind underpowering them like that.

things you will never read on OWWM

thecarpentryway.blogspot.ca/2010/04/delivery-is-good.html

[Larry Edgerton]

Some nice mods on that Hitachi. I've often contemplated picking up one of those or a Makita but never felt too confident with the universal motors that either originally were equipped with. Could never understand the logic behind underpowering them like that.

They are not really underpowered, its just listening to that screaming gear reduction motor that drove me to changing mine out. It was much more pleasant with a quieter setup. The saws cut very well.

Larry

[Peter Kelly]

Same issue with my Makita 2030 j/p. Great little machine but it's universal motor is just as loud as all hell. Even the new and improved ones sold in Japan seem come equipped with them.

[Tai Fu]

So how is this Hitachi machine running on 3" blades? I mean the wheel looks no larger than 18" so given that almost all 3" blades I have seen uses either .045" or .055" backing, how does it avoid premature blade breakage?

[jack forsberg]

So how is this Hitachi machine running on 3" blades? I mean the wheel looks no larger than 18" so given that almost all 3" blades I have seen uses either .045" or .055" backing, how does it avoid premature blade breakage?

wheels are 16" x 3" wide cast iron with no rubber or crown on them. blades are tipped in a number of hard metals of your chose and coil thinkness is .025

these are not cheap blade but you can sharpen them yourself.

http://www.garitto.com/product/9700046

[Tai Fu]

I can't read Japanese but that looks a bit like the Taiwanese bands I get locally. Backing is really thin for its width (seen 3"+ blades with a .032" backing, unheard of in America). They can manually weld carbide on it if necessary and like the example given they only weld carbide on every other teeth instead of every teeth like the American bands. Of course most bands sold in Taiwan are made in Japan.

[jack forsberg]

I can't read Japanese but that looks a bit like the Taiwanese bands I get locally. Backing is really thin for its width (seen 3"+ blades with a .032" backing, unheard of in America). They can manually weld carbide on it if necessary and like the example given they only weld carbide on every other teeth instead of every teeth like the American bands. Of course most bands sold in Taiwan are made in Japan.


I looked for a sourse for blades in canada and the cost was outragesous. so I am going to get them shipped from japan. you can get the skip tooth or full tooth blades from that supplier as well as plane steel one.

here is my review of the saw as i got it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7oyPdVl-Zg

[Harold Burrell]

OK...great...

Yet another thread that I can't let my wife see. I've been telling her that I can't work out in my shop because it's too cold. Now you're telling me that I can? (Actually, I want to. I can hardly wait to. But my fingers and toes disagree.)