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Derek Voigt
11-26-2013, 8:26 AM
I don't ever think much about a drill press until I need to use it. Right now I have a little harbor freight bench top one that is maybe a 1/3 HP. I have found my self on a few occasions needing a taller one and one with more power. I have a couple large fornester bits, it that 3 inch range, and the drill press is pretty useless on those.

What HP drill press should be used for these large bits? Is a 3/4 HP enough or do I need to look Lin the 1hp range. I do work with some dense exotics.

i was looking at the grizzly drill presses, but also though about habor freight as well. I don't feel as though I need the best I the best for a drill press.

thanks,
derek

Rod Sheridan
11-26-2013, 8:33 AM
Hi, I've owned a 17" 1/2HP drill press for a couple of decades now.

It's a good size for woodworking, and has plenty of power for driving larger bits.

You don't need the best in a drill press however you need one that has little runout, a good chuck, well machined and balanced cast iron pulleys.

I'd suggest buying a used one of 20 to 50 years of age, or a new mid priced one..........Rod.

Cary Falk
11-26-2013, 9:50 AM
I have a 17" Steel City. I think it has a 3/4 hp motor. I find that the quill travel is more important than the size. My DP has 6" of travel. I have used the 6" of quill travel before but have never come across a time where I needed more distance between teh column and the drill bit.

pat warner
11-26-2013, 9:53 AM
"What HP drill press should be used for these large bits? Is a 3/4 HP enough or do I need to look Lin the 1hp range"
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3 phase x 3/4 HP is enough for 1" holes in steel.
Rebuilt, >40 years old. (http://patwarner.com/images/old_rock.jpg)

Ian Wormsbecker
11-26-2013, 12:00 PM
What are the 'old' drill presses worthwhile looking at to refurbish?
What is the one you have there Pat?

Michael W. Clark
11-26-2013, 12:37 PM
I had the HF DP you are referring to. I upgraded to a Delta 17" floor model. I think it has a 1/2HP, maybe 3/4HP, but certainly not 1 HP motor. You get more torque out of the larger DPs because you can run at a slower RPM. Everything is built heavier than what you have even on the newer models. Older is probably better, built heavier, probably more precision, and they are usually less expensive if you want to go that route. Look at quill travel (better than 3-1/2" preferred) and speed range. The depth stop is another thing to look for. The locking nut style is more intuitive, but the turret style also works well.

Many people buy a heavier bench model and put a cabinet under it for storage. You can do the same with a floor model but make your cabinet on casters so it can be moved out of the way if you have an interference.

Mike

Myk Rian
11-26-2013, 5:06 PM
What are the 'old' drill presses worthwhile looking at to refurbish?
Delta, Powermatic, Walker Turner.
I have a DP220 Delta 14" 1/3hp. Does fine with larger cutters. You have to slow them down with the pulleys, and that adds to the available torque.

Bill Geibe
11-27-2013, 1:06 AM
Derek,

I have a generic Asian floor standing DP that's about 25 years old. It came with a 1/3hp motor which was fine until it came to turning larger Forstner bits and it would stall. I looked around and found a 3/4hp Baldor motor on CL and swapped it with the original. Now the DP will turn a 3-1/4" Forstner (that I use to recess clock movements) through white oak without a problem. I would think that 3/4-1HP would be the way to go, just in case.

Bill

Charles Coolidge
11-27-2013, 3:49 AM
One big enough to hold up cast iron extension tables while you install them on a planer or table saw :D

http://www.coolidgeamps.com/pics/dp.jpg

Bill Geibe
11-27-2013, 10:16 AM
"One big enough to hold up cast iron extension tables while you install them on a planer or table saw :D"

I hadn't thought of that!

Bill

pat warner
11-27-2013, 11:25 AM
Rockwell, General (made in Canada), Buffalo, DoAll, Wilton, Clausing. Maybe Atlas.

Ken Fitzgerald
11-27-2013, 12:04 PM
3/4 HP should be plenty in most cases and like Cary, I would recommend quill travel distance is important too. I wouldn't get one with less than 4" of quill travel.

Charles Coolidge
11-27-2013, 1:18 PM
3/4 HP should be plenty in most case and like Cary, I would recommend quill travel distance is important too. I wouldn't get one with less than 4" of quill travel.

This ^^^ my Delta woodworking drill press has a 6" quill travel. Sometimes you need to drill a deep hole, other times you just need the reach to drill over something.

Derek Voigt
11-27-2013, 2:05 PM
I noticed that General has a 17" press with a 6" travel decent price too. Looks like it might a bit over kill for me. But that hasn't stopped me before. Although it can only go down to 1/8" drill bits. I do sometimes use smaller bits.


I agree that travel is important, my current DP has just over 2", which can be limiting. Good to hear that 3/4 will more then likely get the job done.

Erik Manchester
11-28-2013, 5:49 AM
Derek,

That General 17" is the same as the Steel City 17" DP. I have three DP, a Steel City 17" and a Walker Turner and Atlas bench models. I had the bench models when I found the Steel City aval used for a steal and I just have not found a new home for the others yet. The 6" travel and greater speed range were key features for me with the new DP.

No need to buy new if you can find a decent used machine. If you are only working wood, you don't need features like the production tables that a machinist would want, but if the machine has one, all the better.

If you find and older 3 Phase industrial unit they can be run with a VFD for less than $150 and provide very accurate speed control.

Thomas Hotchkin
11-28-2013, 11:16 AM
Derek
I just picked up a 20" Powermatic 1200 drill press from Craigslist, they do not make them like this any more. Tom

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Cary Falk
11-28-2013, 11:28 AM
Derek
I just picked up a 20" Powermatic 1200 drill press from Craigslist, they do not make them like this any more. Tom

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:mad: Been trying to snag one of theses for over a year now. It's probably a good thing I can't see the picture.

Earl Rumans
11-28-2013, 2:15 PM
I have the Delta 19 inch and a big factor in my buying this DP was the quill travel. As stated previously, I think that is more important then the throat size. I use my DP for both woodworking and metal work and it's been great so far. Another big factor is the speed of the DP. The lower speed the DP will go gives you much better metal drilling capabilities and for woodworking the bigger bits really like the slow speeds. Unfortunately most of the newer DP's will not go very slow.

James Baker SD
11-28-2013, 3:54 PM
I've had an old Powermatic 1150 for about 20 years now. It has 3/4 hp motor and 6" quill travel. It has done everything I've ever asked of it.

Kent A Bathurst
12-01-2013, 2:56 PM
I've had an old Powermatic 1150 for about 20 years now. It has 3/4 hp motor and 6" quill travel. It has done everything I've ever asked of it.

We have a winner.



There are a lot of PM 1150 drill presses out there. And, there are a lot that are in very good condition. You should be able to make the last DP purchase for your, your kids, and their kids lifetimes for $500 or so.

The 1150 and subsequent 1150A covers a lot of territory, in terms of years of manufacture.

A real horse - serious piece of equipment. US manufacture, back before PM did all the stuff to move offshore and down-market that causes people to complain. Get some help to move it.

I started life with your garden variety Delta. Did fine, for what I was doing. But - when I got a 30 year old 1150A-VS, the Delta seemed laughable by comparison.

If I was doing it over, I would forgo the VS with the Reeves drive, and get a 3ph 1 HP with standard belt/sheave speed adjustment. Then, put a VFD in front of it, and vary the speed that way [but - you don't have full range speed control - just within a wide range, but that sould do fine].

BTW - whichever direction you go, the 6" quill travel is a big deal, IMO. Didn't realize how valuable that feature is until I had it.