poor man's moxon vise.

[bridger berdel]

heh. I probably paid more for the screwclamps than it would cost me to build the moxon. what I can't afford is the space to keep yet another device.http://24.media.tumblr.com/40604801c7dec0fd02b59358ea7a0339/tumblr_mwsuw4nAI01qhrm32o1_1280.jpg

[Jim Koepke]

heh. I probably paid more for the screwclamps than it would cost me to build the moxon. what I can't afford is the space to keep yet another device.http://24.media.tumblr.com/40604801c7dec0fd02b59358ea7a0339/tumblr_mwsuw4nAI01qhrm32o1_1280.jpg

Yeah but then you wouldn't have the screw clamps to use during glue ups or such. Or the spare room when they are put away.

Besides it is just another way to hold something still while you work on it.

jtk

[bridger berdel]

but I'd still have to clamp the moxon to the bench. that'd take 2 clamps anyway. I don't really have enough storage for clamps as is, far less for a moxon....

[Jim Koepke]

but I'd still have to clamp the moxon to the bench. that'd take 2 clamps anyway. I don't really have enough storage for clamps as is, far less for a moxon....

I'm thinking of tapping some holes in a minimal apron on the front of my bench. That way they could be used like a moxon or have individual cams to hold work pieces. Still working on it.

One does have to consider all the room all these extra gizmos occupy. Clamps get stored on the edges of things around my shop.

jtk

[Derek Cohen]

heh. I probably paid more for the screwclamps than it would cost me to build the moxon. what I can't afford is the space to keep yet another device.http://24.media.tumblr.com/40604801c7dec0fd02b59358ea7a0339/tumblr_mwsuw4nAI01qhrm32o1_1280.jpg

Hi Bridger

Someone posted a picture of a board clamped between (the side of) their face vise and a outboard clamp (attached to the bench). The board was clamped low and extended high above the bench. High enough to saw comfortable ... but unsupported front-and-back so that any sawing would likely cause the board to vibrate unless it was pretty thick.

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/VTXAZ/moxon_zps4a025bdc.jpg

As much as I applaud invention, I'm afraid that you are missing the advantage of a Moxon vise here. The advantage is to clamp the board above the bench top, but to do so stabley. A board in a Moxon is held in a "press" such that it cannot vibrate when sawn.

Now if you can use your clamps to create and hold a wooden "sandwich", then you are on to a winner.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Jim Matthews]

I went through the same progression, testing the concept.

The handscrews, a pair of Zyliss vise shaped objects, a kludge with the Record plastic vise shaped objects,
a red-neck Moxxon with pipeclamps (shown in my avatar) and the final version which is now mounted where an end vise is often mounted.

The permanent version gets used more than any other tool in my shop.
I even use it to hold a "hanger" for edge planing boards longer than my bench.

They all work, but the "taller" version works best.

[jamie shard]

I'm thinking of tapping some holes in a minimal apron on the front of my benchjtk !

Wow, you just made me realize that if I drilled a set of big holes through my apron, I could use the woodscrew/nuts I bought a while ago and all I need now is a board for the front. I don't need to do all the additional work of the on-bench version of the moxon! Thanks Jim.

[Derek Cohen]

I did that many years ago ...

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a262/Derek50/Workbench%20and%20Workshop/Newshopcabilnet3.jpg

It is really not a substitute for a Moxon - which lifts the work up high - instead, it is simply a double screw face vise.

Build a proper Moxon - it is worth it!

Regards from Perth

Derek

[bridger berdel]

for sawing dovetails, a proper moxon would definitely be stiffer than the handscrews. in my picture I was planing end grain, so the forces generated were not a problem. the versatility of having a pile of handscrews is hard to beat: for instance, if you need to do some light fine detail work and want the workpiece up at eye level, do this.
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