PDA

View Full Version : Small bulk acrylic sheet purchases.



Brendan Vos
09-16-2013, 4:30 PM
Hello, this is my first post to the forum! I was hoping some of you might be able to augment my research with your knowledge of acrylic purchasing. I am a member of a non-profit hackerspace in Tucson, Arizona named Xerocraft. In the past two weeks we acquired a brand new 60 watt Trotec Speedy 300 laser cutter! We're looking to do a small bulk purchase of acrylic sheeting so that we may have pieces available to sell at a profit to those that come in looking to use the laser cutter. We haven't yet decided on a budget, but my assumption is that we'll have a few hundred to work with. If anyone knows of any local retailers that sell for a similar price, the money saved on shipping would be able to be put towards more acrylic. I've yet to find any good online retailers of extruded clear acrylic for cutting, as most seem to require quotes or are higher priced than other retailers selling the same dimensions of cast acrylic (which makes no sense.) Below is my research into the purchasing of cast acrylic. Hopefully this will be helpful to someone else, or someone can provide us with a better source!

Thanks!

Research:
Looking at 1/8"x24"x48" sheets of translucent cast acrylic as a standard for pricing, the cheapest site I see that sells acrylic sheets in the amounts we're looking for seems to be http://www.estreetplastics.com (http://www.estreetplastics.com/Blue_Plexiglass_Sheet_1_8_Thick_2051_s/261.htm).

Their site is somewhat not user friendly, however this size sheet they sell for $25.99 before a bulk discount, where as http://www.delviesplastics.com (http://www.delviesplastics.com/) sells the same sheets at $31.25 before bulk discount. At delvie's plastics we'll be likely to get to the additional maximum of 15% discount for purchasing 10 or more sheets, but we're likely only to get around 10% discount at http://www.estreetplastics.com (http://www.estreetplastics.com/Blue_Plexiglass_Sheet_1_8_Thick_2051_s/261.htm) as the discount tiers go:2 to 5 items - 3% off

6 to 10 items - 5% off
11 to 20 items - 10% off
21 to 30 items - 12% off
31 to 40 items - 13% off
41 to 50 items - 14% off
41 to 50 items - 14% off



Even with the full 15% discount from delvie's we'd still be paying more than the full price before discount at Estreet. Shipping for the 2 appears to be about equal, hovering around $70 for a purchase of 1 of each of their sheets of 1/8" translucent acrylic.

http://www.eplastics.com/ sells for $31.40 before bulk for that size but offers a 20% discount on purchases of 10-24 sheets and approximately 28% discount for 25+ units.

eplastics does however sell units of 1/8" acrylic in sizes up to 48"x96", however from what I can tell any discounts from larger sizes are quite minimal and seem to be far negated by huge increases in shipping costs.


Looking at purchasing 1 of each sheet of 1/8"x24"x48" of each of their colors of acrylic the prices come out as follows (INCLUDING SHIPPING):


estreetplastics.com (http://estreetplastics.com/): 12 sheets $352.92 ($29.41 per sheet)
delviesplastics.com (http://delviesplastics.com/): 14 sheets $442.27 ($31.59 per sheet)
eplastics.com (http://eplastics.com/) 15 sheets $493.16 ($32.88 per sheet) OR 15 sheets $461.28 ($30.75 per sheet)

For some reason the bulk discounts for eplastics appear to only apply to additional units when purchasing one of each color. For example, the 10% starts at the purchase of 3 sheets. When purchasing multiple colors, the first 2 sheets will be at full price, while the third will be discounted. When purchasing 3 units of the same color this does not happen and all 3 units get the discount. This may be a mistake with their website and we may be able to get better prices by calling a representative. However, even with the full discount on each sheet I calculate we'd still be paying a total of $461.28 for the 15 sheets or $30.75 per sheet, just slightly less than delvie's, and slightly more than estreet. If we're ordering more than 25 sheets and a representative applies the full discount to each sheet eplastics might actually be the cheapest source, however their shipping calculator makes it hard to tell.

From this data it seems that the pricing from each source is fairly similar, however depending on how many sheets we're looking to buy these numbers could change a fair bit.

Jerome Stanek
09-16-2013, 4:47 PM
why not buy full 96x48 sheets and cut them down on a saw.

Martin Boekers
09-16-2013, 5:07 PM
Where are you located? Also there is a difference between cast and extruded when using a the laser. Cast is more expensive. Also do the sheets have to be 24x48 as that's pretty large and may cost more to ship than 24x24. If your close to a major city chances are good there is a local distributor you can purchase from. Also there is an additional (I believe 5% discount from Delvies if you tell them your a member here.)

Ross Moshinsky
09-16-2013, 5:13 PM
why not buy full 96x48 sheets and cut them down on a saw.

This. 3mm cast clear acrylic in a sheet should be around $60-80 for a 4x8 sheet. That gives you 4 - 24x48 pieces at roughly $15-20 each. Then you turn around and sell them for $30-40 a pop. If you don't have a table saw, you'll pay for one quickly that way.

Also setup an account with an actual wholesaler. Shipping will be very low (often free).

Martin Boekers
09-16-2013, 5:55 PM
This. 3mm cast clear acrylic in a sheet should be around $60-80 for a 4x8 sheet. That gives you 4 - 24x48 pieces at roughly $15-20 each. Then you turn around and sell them for $30-40 a pop. If you don't have a table saw, you'll pay for one quickly that way.

Also setup an account with an actual wholesaler. Shipping will be very low (often free). Ross let me know the wholesaler that ships for free for small quantities. A 4x8 foot piece takes special shipping and packing. If I need a larger size I have to pick it up from a local wholesaler as cost to ship are just to high for large sizes.

Ross Moshinsky
09-16-2013, 6:47 PM
Ross let me know the wholesaler that ships for free for small quantities. A 4x8 foot piece takes special shipping and packing. If I need a larger size I have to pick it up from a local wholesaler as cost to ship are just to high for large sizes.

Pioneer Sign Supply is who I have an account with. Shipping is essentially free as long as you hit the minimum (which is $50 I believe). You just have to pay a $5 fuel surcharge. A lot of companies in the sheet good world have similar offerings. Just have to find the right company. They have their routes and you just get added to their route. They may only deliver in your area once a week, sometimes less. It all depends. I'm sure those out in rural areas aren't able to take advantage of such services, but if you're in a relatively suburban area I'd be surprised if you can't find someone willing to do something similar.

Brendan Vos
09-16-2013, 8:33 PM
Where are you located?
In the first line I stated that I'm at a non-profit hackerspace in Tucson, Arizona named Xerocraft.


why not buy full 96x48 sheets and cut them down on a saw.
The sites I looked into charged so much more for shipping for those sheets that it was nowhere near justifiable to get the larger sheets.


Pioneer Sign Supply is who I have an account with. Shipping is essentially free as long as you hit the minimum (which is $50 I believe). You just have to pay a $5 fuel surcharge. A lot of companies in the sheet good world have similar offerings. Just have to find the right company. They have their routes and you just get added to their route. They may only deliver in your area once a week, sometimes less. It all depends. I'm sure those out in rural areas aren't able to take advantage of such services, but if you're in a relatively suburban area I'd be surprised if you can't find someone willing to do something similar.
This is just the sort of thing we're looking for, as we do have a table saw (A beautiful new sawstop at that) and would be quite happy to cut the pieces ourselves. If we're able to settle on a deal without shipping that would be great, I've never heard anything like it! I just submitted a request for an account with pioneer, and I'm looking into their products now. What kinds of sizes and quantities will they ship you under this wholesale route arrangement?

Ross Moshinsky
09-16-2013, 8:53 PM
This is just the sort of thing we're looking for, as we do have a table saw (A beautiful new sawstop at that) and would be quite happy to cut the pieces ourselves. If we're able to settle on a deal without shipping that would be great, I've never heard anything like it! I just submitted a request for an account with pioneer, and I'm looking into their products now. What kinds of sizes and quantities will they ship you under this wholesale route arrangement?

Pioneer isn't someone you'll deal with. They are an east coast outfit. You're going to have to find someone local to you. I'd imagine you can find someone in or around Tucson that you can work with. Sometimes it's best to work backwards. Contact Chemcast or Plexiglas for example and they will tell you various places in your region you can buy their product. From there you can call the various suppliers and see who will work with you and what their terms are.

Scott Shepherd
09-16-2013, 9:40 PM
I agree with Ross, find someone local or at least close. There are about 10 plastic suppliers in this area. A number of them are regional and have access to a lot of inventory. If you are willing to wait a week or two, they can get things with no shipping fee, as they bring it in with their normal shipment. They have computerized saws at most of them, so you can have them cut to fit your laser bed as well. Our supplier doesn't charge us anything for simple cuts like that.

If we need it before their normal shipment, they'll have it cut into 2' x 4' pieces and ship it UPS. It's very reasonable to do that as well.

Search your area for some plastic suppliers. Call Evonik and ask who the distributors are in your area.

http://www.acrylite.net/product/acrylite/en/where-to-buy/pages/default.aspx