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George M. Perzel
08-14-2013, 8:18 AM
Hi Gang;
Is there a tool/technique in Coreldraw which will allow you to take a vector pattern (like a segment of grapevine) and bend it around a curve? Much like the "fit to path" function with text.
Thanks
Best Regards,
George
Laserarts

Mike Null
08-14-2013, 8:45 AM
George

I believe the brush tool will permit you to do that but I can't walk you through it. Try checking you tube for a tutorial--I think I've seen one there.

Roy Brewer also shows a method that might do the job. http://www.engravingconcepts.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20&Itemid=67

George M. Perzel
08-14-2013, 10:16 AM
Thanks, Mike-will try them
Best Regards,
George
Laserarts

Art Mann
08-14-2013, 10:53 AM
That implies that Corel Draw has 3-D functionality. I wasn't aware that is true as I use Adobe Illustrator. Does Corel Draw have any real 3-D features? I think maybe I am misunderstanding the question.

Dan Hintz
08-14-2013, 11:12 AM
That implies that Corel Draw has 3-D functionality. I wasn't aware that is true as I use Adobe Illustrator. Does Corel Draw have any real 3-D features? I think maybe I am misunderstanding the question.

Take a 1" square. Now repeat that square every 2" around a 12" diameter circle. That's what George is trying to do. No 3D, just forcing one design to bend along a specified 2D path.

George M. Perzel
08-14-2013, 12:02 PM
Danm;
That's close- I can do that by copying and rotate a number of degrees and then repeating. What I want is to take something like a straight rope segment and causing it to bend and fit around a circlular path-repeating until the path is complete.
Thanks
Best Regards,
George
Laserarts

Dan Hintz
08-14-2013, 12:17 PM
Danm;
That's close- I can do that by copying and rotate a number of degrees and then repeating. What I want is to take something like a straight rope segment and causing it to bend and fit around a circlular path-repeating until the path is complete.
I was just trying to get your idea across to Art, not suggesting a method of attack. I've never had to do it in Corel, but I'm almost positive it's a simple operation. Let me do a little searching and see what I can find...

Dan Hintz
08-14-2013, 12:35 PM
Alright, George, try out this video and see if it helps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8dHwcP6pSE

Also, one (painful and not perfect?) option is to turn a small repeating segment of rope into a font (freebie programs can turn any B&W image into a TT font). Once it's a font, you can resize to any size you need, and fitting fonts to a path is one click.

Art Mann
08-14-2013, 2:03 PM
Bummer. I totally misunderstood. I was hoping that Corel had taken a leap into the world of 3-D modeling.

Joe Hillmann
08-14-2013, 2:09 PM
There are several videos on youtube posted by engraving concepts 1, there is one where he shows how to do what you want with a barb wire border. And another where he fits objects to a path.

Bruce Clumpner
08-14-2013, 2:09 PM
Hi Gang;
Is there a tool/technique in Coreldraw which will allow you to take a vector pattern (like a segment of grapevine) and bend it around a curve? Much like the "fit to path" function with text.


It's easy to replicate an object around a circle.


Place your original art on the diameter of a circle object you want to work with.
Mark the center of the circle with guidelines.
Single click the art to bring up the skew controls and drag the origin (circle+dot) to the center of the circle marked by the guidelines.
Click again and now drag the object into the new position you want and right-click.
It will rotate around the common center and leave a duplicate object in that new position.
Now just CONTROL-R to repeat.
You may need to size object so it fits the way you want. Once you get the action, it's easy to re-try to get it "right"


Hope this helps.

-bc

Lee DeRaud
08-14-2013, 3:14 PM
Also, one (painful and not perfect?) option is to turn a small repeating segment of rope into a font (freebie programs can turn any B&W image into a TT font). Once it's a font, you can resize to any size you need, and fitting fonts to a path is one click.Question (because I am both lazy and not at the right computer): when Corel fits text to a curve, is it actually warping the letters or just rotating them? In other words, say an 'H' ends up at the top of a peak in the curve...is the top of the 'H' bigger than the bottom? Otherwise, that "rope" font turns into a series of short straight segments, more like a length of chain.

Dan Hintz
08-14-2013, 3:21 PM
Question (because I am both lazy and not at the right computer): when Corel fits text to a curve, is it actually warping the letters or just rotating them? In other words, say an 'H' ends up at the top of a peak in the curve...is the top of the 'H' bigger than the bottom? Otherwise, that "rope" font turns into a series of short straight segments, more like a length of chain.

The individual letters are twisted, but not warped. Yes, that's a downside, which is why I mentioned it's not a perfect solution.

Mike Null
08-14-2013, 4:38 PM
Dan

That's not quite how it works. You are offered 5 options as to the orientation of the letters and they are not all twisted or distorted.

Try it.

Dan Hintz
08-14-2013, 5:06 PM
So there's hope for George yet...

George M. Perzel
08-14-2013, 9:52 PM
Hi Guys;
Thanks for all the info and advice. The barbed wire example is exactly what I am trying to do-unfortunately I can't seem to get past the step where he turns the envelope tool off and then on again. Does the object have to be a bitmap (tried that) or can it also be a vector segment? I can't get it to bend in the curve as his example does. Will keep fooling around with it-probably one of those simple things ...............
Best Regards,
George
Laserarts

Joe Hillmann
08-14-2013, 9:58 PM
I can't give you any advice on how he got the barbed wire to fallow the circle, I have never tried it I just remembered when watching the video that I thought it may be useful some day.

George M. Perzel
08-14-2013, 10:01 PM
Hi Bruce;
I have been fooling around with your method but am missing something. I place the art on the diameter of the circlr-the center of the art is on the center of the circle-not sure after that.............
Thanks
Best Regards,
George
Laserarts

Cara Huber
08-14-2013, 11:58 PM
Check out the blend tool, that might help to achieve what you're after. It takes a bit of experimentation and you may have to use various tools/dockers (like rotate and skew) in conjunction with blend but it's worth a shot.

Mike Null
08-15-2013, 10:35 AM
George

I referred to the brush tool when the name is artistic media. I did see a couple of tutorials that might lead you into something.

Bruce Clumpner
08-15-2013, 5:44 PM
Hi Bruce;
I have been fooling around with your method but am missing something. I place the art on the diameter of the circle-the center of the art is on the center of the circle-not sure after that.............
Thanks


Sorry George, was off-line most of today...

Here's the final bit (I think I told you wrong). I meant to say that you need to rotate the object not just move. So get the rotation handles back, and drag those handles to rotate the object to the correct position and then right click to drop a duplicate in that spot. Once the dupe is in place you can still rotate it to get a better fit or if it's correct the first time, then just repeat the action using Control-R to get more objects dropped around the circle..

Hope this explanation is a bit better...

Scott Shepherd
08-15-2013, 6:07 PM
It's very easy to do. Mike's got it right. Make your own artistic brush stroke.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1RbX8LFZy0

Mike Null
08-16-2013, 6:22 AM
Steve

Thanks for posting that link. For those who are unfamiliar with Jeff Harrison, he's a Corel guru and has a mailing list to which I subscribe. Everyday he sends out some kind of tip.

George M. Perzel
08-16-2013, 10:58 AM
Thanks all for your help-still can't figure out the envelope method but the Artistic media function works great-thanks for the link, Scott
Best Regards,
George
Laserarts