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Dick Latshaw
05-28-2013, 3:38 PM
I think you will relate to this. From dawood.in.

IF CARPENTERS WERE HIRED LIKE PROGRAMMERS


Interviewer: So, youíre a carpenter, are you?
Carpenter: Thatís right, thatís what I do.

Interviewer: How long have you been doing it?
Carpenter: Ten years.

Interviewer: Great, thatís good. Now, I have a few technical questions to ask you to see if youíre a fit for our team. OK?
Carpenter: Sure, thatíd be fine.

Interviewer: First of all, weíre working in a subdivision building a lot of brown houses. Have you built a lot of brown houses before?
Carpenter: Well, Iím a carpenter, so I build houses, and people pretty much paint them the way they want.

Interviewer: Yes, I understand that, but can you give me an idea of how much experience you have with brown? Roughly.
Carpenter: Gosh, I really donít know. Once theyíre built I donít care what color they get painted. Maybe six months?

Interviewer: Six months? Well, we were looking for someone with a lot more brown experience, but let me ask you some more questions.
Carpenter: Well, OK, but paint is paint, you know.

Interviewer: Yes, well. What about walnut?
Carpenter: What about it?

Interviewer: Have you worked much with walnut?
Carpenter: Sure, walnut, pine, oak, mahogony ó you name it.

Interviewer: But how many years of walnut do you have?
Carpenter: Gosh, I really donít know ó was I supposed to be counting the walnut?

Interviewer: Well, estimate for me.
Carpenter: OK, Iíd say I have a year and a half of walnut.

Interviewer: Would you say youíre an entry level walnut guy or a walnut guru?
Carpenter: A walnut guru? Whatís a walnut guru? Sure, Iíve used walnut.

Interviewer: But youíre not a walnut guru?
Carpenter: Well, Iím a carpenter, so Iíve worked with all kinds of wood, you know, and there are some differences, but I think if youíre a good carpenter Ö

Interviewer: Yes, yes, but weíre using Walnut, is that OK?
Carpenter: Walnut is fine! Whatever you want. Iím a carpenter.

Interviewer: What about black walnut?
Carpenter: What about it?

Interviewer: Well weíve had some walnut carpenters in here, but come to find out they werenít black walnut carpenters. Do you have black walnut experience?
Carpenter: Sure, a little. Itíd be good to have more for my resume, I suppose.

Interviewer: OK. Hang on let me check off the boxÖ
Carpenter: Go right ahead.

Interviewer: OK, one more thing for today. Weíre using Rock 5.1 to bang nails with. Have you used Rock 5.1?
Carpenter: [Turning white...] Well, I know a lot of carpenters are starting to use rocks to bang nails with since Craftsman bought a quarry, but you know, to be honest Iíve had more luck with my nailgun. Or a hammer, for that matter. I find I hit my fingers too much with the rock, and my other hand hurts because the rock is so big.

Interviewer: But other companies are using rocks. Are you saying rocks donít work?
Carpenter: No, Iím not saying rocks donít work, exactly, itís just that I think nail guns work better.

Interviewer: Well, our architects have all started using rocks, and they like it.
Carpenter: Well, sure they do, but I bang nails all day, and ó well, look, I need the work, so Iím definitely willing to use rocks if you want. I try to keep an open mind.

Interviewer: OK, well we have a few other candidates weíre looking at, so weíll let you know.
Carpenter: Well, thanks for your time. I enjoyed meeting you.

NEXT DAY:RingÖ
Interviewer: Hello?
Carpenter: Hello. Remember me, Iím the carpenter you interviewed for the black walnut job. Just wanted to touch base to see if youíve made a decision.

Interviewer: Actually, we have. We liked your experience overall, but we decided to go with someone who has done a lot of work with brown.
Carpenter: Really, is that it? So I lost the job because I didnít have enough brown?

Interviewer: Well, it was partly that, but partly we got the other fellow a lot cheaper.
Carpenter: Really ó how much experience does he have?

Interviewer: Well, heís not really a carpenter, heís a car salesman ó but heís sold a lot of brown cars and heís worked with walnut interiors.
Carpenter: [click]

Larry Browning
05-28-2013, 5:14 PM
That is absolutely hilarious! But sadly, there is much truth in it.

I have been a programmer for close to 40 years, and have found that for the most part, programming is programming, no matter what the flavor. The only thing I have had trouble with is that Object Oriented junk. It has always seemed to me like you have to program by going around the block to get next door! Twice the code to get half the results.

Michael Dedon
05-28-2013, 6:21 PM
2b 31 to both of you

Larry Browning
05-28-2013, 9:31 PM
2b 31 to both of you

I don't get it???????

John C Lawson
05-28-2013, 10:13 PM
I don't get it???????

I figured it out. It's the hex representation of the ASCII "+1". I'm more of an EBCDIC guy myself anyway.

Larry Browning
05-28-2013, 11:18 PM
I figured it out. It's the hex representation of the ASCII "+1". I'm more of an EBCDIC guy myself anyway.
I'm glad somebody did! I was thinking maybe he was wishing he was 31 again.

Michael Dedon
05-29-2013, 5:17 PM
Sorry about that guys. Still living in the 70s when I needed to know that stuff.

John C Lawson
05-29-2013, 11:33 PM
No problem. Even if it were EBCIDIC, the special character would have thrown me. I last needed to know that stuff over 25 years ago.

Bill Edwards(2)
05-30-2013, 8:02 AM
I'm more of an EBCDIC guy myself anyway.

iSeries?

I've been at this for 45 years, still wondering when the fad will end. :rolleyes:

John C Lawson
06-01-2013, 12:22 AM
Well, I'm an operations manager. My guys run iSeries and zSeries. We also do batch production on mainframe with CA7 and Unix with AutoSys. I've only been at this for 40 years, but I worked for a company in the 70's that never threw away a machine that worked so I've run a 1401, 1410, and 7010. My personal expertise started in DOS operations, through MVS operations, to batch production. Almost no one on my US staff is under 50.