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John W Johnson
05-07-2013, 11:58 AM
Does anyone know of a cheaper alternative to the Festool brand? Seems like I read about a source somewhere but failed to make note of it. Someone cut a gash across the hose that came with my CT 22 more or less in the middle of the danged thing. Those shop gremlins that appear in the middle of the night are a real nuisance. Working with an 8' hose is about to whip me. I was thinking about getting a longer hose before the mishap.

Dimitrios Fradelakis
05-07-2013, 12:24 PM
Bosch makes a hose that is identical to the festool hose. I have the festool ts55 but could not justify spending $100.00 on a vacuum hose for it. The Bosch hose fits like a charm and works perfectly with my shop vac. Let me try and find the model number for you...

Dimitrios Fradelakis
05-07-2013, 12:28 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0000AV78B/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/188-3827908-0725165

Several buyers say that it's identical to the Festool hose. Read the reviews to be sure though.

David Weaver
05-07-2013, 12:47 PM
That looks exactly like the hose that came on my fein, too.

Mac McQuinn
05-07-2013, 12:53 PM
John,
I'm not sure if this will interchange although it's a lot cheaper, made in the USA, pretty tough material, very flexible and 12' in length.
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?202852-Mr-Nozzle-M-100-DB-Wet-dry-Vac-Hose-kit-w-Acc-amp-box
Mac

Greg R Bradley
05-07-2013, 1:04 PM
The Bosch VAC005 is compatible but not even close to the same as a Festool hose.

It is not anti-static for a major difference. The hose material does seem similar to the non-antistatic Festool hoses.

The vac end will plug directly in to a Festool Vac, Fein vac, most regular 2.25" shop vacs, and Bosch vacs previous to the newest one with the special lock. It won't lock into place on a Fein like the 30mm hose but the 50mm Fein hose doesn't lock either.

The hose is 35mm but the end is similar to the Festool end on a 27mm hose so it goes over the small sanders and in a TS55, etc. The quality of the rubber/plastic tool end is far inferior to the Festool and will not hold up as well. At the price, you can buy two or you can get a Festool 27mm replacement tool end on with some work.

If you can live without the anti-static, then it does seem to have a good use since it is 5 meters long and has the small Festool end. I assume a 5 meter Festool 27mm hose has some resistance being that small and that long.

If you can live without the anti-static, you can do what I did. Buy two of the VAC005 hoses. Take the end off of one and save it for when the end wears out on the other. Use that one for small Festool tools. Buy a Festool 36mm tool end and put it on the hose you removed the Bosch end from. Now you have two 5 meter Festool compatible hoses, one for small tools and one for larger tools. This worked great for me as I'm using Fein Vacs and didn't have anti-static in the first place.

Peter Kelly
05-07-2013, 1:43 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0000AV78B/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/188-3827908-0725165

Several buyers say that it's identical to the Festool hose. Read the reviews to be sure though.Can verify that this is true. I've bought the hose and it works perfectly to go from Festool CT 26 vac to Kapex. The Bosch hose looks like it comes from the same factory as Festool and Mirka but costs a fraction of the price though it isn't anti-static.

Peter Kuhlman
05-07-2013, 1:45 PM
HD and Lowes sell hoses that fit the CT vacs perfectly. They are normally the same as the mid sized 36mm hose. I have not seen any sized like the 27mm hose there. Of course they are not anti-static and the tool ends tend to be no where near as flexible but I find them useful at times and the price is right.

David Weaver
05-07-2013, 2:28 PM
What is the virtue of the anti static hose other than dust not sticking to the outside?

Greg R Bradley
05-07-2013, 2:55 PM
What is the virtue of the anti static hose other than dust not sticking to the outside?

I think it really depends on your area. I have both and don't see much difference. Others say there is a big problem with static making the dust stick to the outside AND inside and they are actually shocked by some tools that move lots of dust like a production router.

I did see some issues with static working in Park City, UT in the wintertime. I was only running sanders and tracksaw.

David Weaver
05-07-2013, 3:14 PM
I don't have an antistatic hose, but here in wpa, there's not really been a time that I thought the hose on the fein lacked anything. As much as that static protection costs, I'd rather go without it and have it as an option instead.

Julie Moriarty
05-07-2013, 3:28 PM
What is the virtue of the anti static hose other than dust not sticking to the outside?

There's thread on FOG (http://festoolownersgroup.com/other-tool-reviews/oneida-ultimate-dust-deputy-151175/) about inserting the Ultimate Dust Deputy between the tool and the vac. Some said the static buildup created by the break in static grounding caused an electronic board within the vac to fry. One said the board fried without the static grounding break. Whatever the case, I got the impression static can wreak havoc on the electronics in the vacuum, if it makes its way to the circuitry.

David Weaver
05-07-2013, 3:31 PM
I wonder if that's happened on the fein vacuums? I'm guessing not since the vac comes with the cheap hose, but I can break one of the feins and buy another one for the same price i can get the festool up the street (there are a lot of places here that have festool..I should say up the street, down the street, across the road, the next town over from any of those).

Greg R Bradley
05-07-2013, 4:11 PM
The Fein vac does not have anti-static system so never used an anti-static hose. Festool always promoted the antistatic function that seemed a solution in search of a problem to me. I've heard about places that have problems with static but never saw a need myself. They must have convinced some people they need it since the newest Bosch units are antistatic. I can't remember the name of the company that makes the Bosch but several tool companies sell that as "their" vac.

I would think a dust collection system would be more likely to need antistatic due to the much larger volume of air and longer run time. So the question is does anyone see a big problem in a vacuum that is solved by going to a Festool vac?

Julie Moriarty
05-07-2013, 4:55 PM
FWIW, I posted a question on FOG about static buildup frying CBs in Festool vacuums. One of the Festool employees said if you use Festool hoses and accessories, there would be no problem with your warranty. Using a Dust Deputy or other third-party accessory may void your warranty.

John W Johnson
05-08-2013, 4:32 PM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0000AV78B/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/188-3827908-0725165

Several buyers say that it's identical to the Festool hose. Read the reviews to be sure though.

thanks for the heads up, that should work well for my needs. If Festool makes a splice kit, I could not find it.

Tom Ewell
05-08-2013, 9:15 PM
Can also use the Mirka hose it's a little stiffer and maybe not as rugged as the Festool D27-AS but it fits.
Mine came with a screw on soft adaptor, fits inner, outer and oval Festool ports.
The big end fits my CT22, Unscrew the adaptor and it fits the Ceros.
http://mirka-online.com/min6519411-mirka-vacuum-hose.html

Harley Reasons
05-08-2013, 9:39 PM
I just hooked up one of the Dust Deputy's today, tried it out and walked over to it and the static electricity popped me. Dust Deputy's solution is to have a strip of metallic tape (aluminum duct tape) about 1/2" wide stuck on the cyclone from the top down to the metal collar ring. Then you are suppose to take a light piece of electrical wire, wrap a bare end around one of the bolts on the collar ring and put a washer on the other end with the bare wire wrapped around it. This washer will then be left on the floor for the ground. I am using swimming pool hose for my vac hoses, picked up a 36 ft one for aroun $40

Todd Brewer
05-08-2013, 10:31 PM
I just hooked up one of the Dust Deputy's today, tried it out and walked over to it and the static electricity popped me. Dust Deputy's solution is to have a strip of metallic tape (aluminum duct tape) about 1/2" wide stuck on the cyclone from the top down to the metal collar ring. Then you are suppose to take a light piece of electrical wire, wrap a bare end around one of the bolts on the collar ring and put a washer on the other end with the bare wire wrapped around it. This washer will then be left on the floor for the ground. I am using swimming pool hose for my vac hoses, picked up a 36 ft one for aroun $40

A piece of metal tape, like that used for metal HVAC duct cut about 3/4" wide, run from tool hose inlet port on the DD and down to one of the bolts holding the cyclone to the DD dust storage unit did the trick for me. No wire to the ground or washer on the floor. Funny thing is, I only got shocked using a Festool tool. When I had a DeWalt biscuit joiner or Ryobi orbital sander hooked up I never got shocked. They were hooked up exactly the same way, only the tool was different.

With regards to hoses, I bought the Rigid hose as others have recommended. It it used on my Kapex. Seems just fine. It is shorter than a standard Festool hose, but I will probably cut it shorter as I will locate my Midi near the Kapex.

Julie Moriarty
05-11-2013, 8:35 PM
There's a thread on FOG that was started a couple of days ago about third party accessories being placed between the their tool and vac. They made it a sticky. The gist is static buildup can cause circuit boards in the vac to fry and you won't be covered under warranty. They aren't making that official, but the warning is there. FYI

Todd Brewer
05-12-2013, 10:15 AM
There's a thread on FOG that was started a couple of days ago about third party accessories being placed between the their tool and vac. They made it a sticky. The gist is static buildup can cause circuit boards in the vac to fry and you won't be covered under warranty. They aren't making that official, but the warning is there. FYI
Begs the question: Why does Festool sell a non-static dissipating hose?

Julie Moriarty
05-12-2013, 10:18 AM
I mentioned that on FOG. No response from the Fes-pros yet.

Homer Faucett
05-07-2017, 6:43 PM
Great thread! I just picked up a Rigid hose for $38 for a CT26 I recently acquired. Works great!

http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-1-7-8-in-x-10-ft-Pro-Grade-Vacuum-Hose-Kit-for-RIDGID-Wet-Dry-Vacs-VT2570/100375877

Ben Rivel
05-07-2017, 8:49 PM
Great thread! I just picked up a Rigid hose for $38 for a CT26 I recently acquired. Works great!

http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-1-7-8-in-x-10-ft-Pro-Grade-Vacuum-Hose-Kit-for-RIDGID-Wet-Dry-Vacs-VT2570/100375877Have you used a sander with it yet? No sawdust sticking to the outside of it like they show in the pictures when not using an Anit-Static hose?

Homer Faucett
05-08-2017, 6:59 AM
Have you used a sander with it yet? No sawdust sticking to the outside of it like they show in the pictures when not using an Anit-Static hose?

I used it with the RO 90 sander and had no problems. However, it is spring and damp here. perhaps under the dead of winter things are different.

Homer Faucett
05-09-2017, 11:00 AM
I guess I should have said I also used it with my ETS 150, Domino, and Track Saw with no problem, exept that the reducer I used is a bit too tight. I will have to take a little off the inside of the adapter. I have used these same tools on my Fein Turbo 2 in winter with the Fein hose and never had a problem. I just happened to get a great deal on the CT 26 and the RO 90 at a pawn shop I frequent. I really like the Festool vac.

Andy Giddings
05-09-2017, 10:55 PM
I know that Flexaust makes 36mm (or 1.5inch) antistatic hose (Genesis StatPath Plus) that fits the Festool connectors - I bought 25ft for $76 from Hose Warehouse recently and works fine with the Festool interconnects if a little tight to thread onto them