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David Weaver
02-04-2013, 12:35 PM
Honest question - poll, based on something I read a few years ago.

Lots of discussion about balance of different chisels lately, and some folks preferring butt chisels for dovetail work, heavier vs. lighter chisels, etc.

How do you hold your chisels when you do fine mallet work, like HB dovetails or I guess malleting to the line for anything.

Just curious. I've slowly become a convert to holding only the handle of a chisel, and never or almost never the blade. I thought this was clumsy for the finest cuts a few years ago, but it's turned out to be much more comfortable and faster as time goes on.

If you do both, think about what you do when you're working the last cut at the marking line, are you holding the handle, or are you holding very close to the edge to place the chisel in the marking line?

Chris Griggs
02-04-2013, 12:45 PM
I put hold the blade <5 years, though I do hold by the handle sometimes too. Lets say for example I'm chopping out HBDT pins. I'll start by holding it near the blade since I'm holding it in a gauge line. Once I get the shoulder establish I tend to grip the handle. Of course, at that point I'm hitting the mallet harder so maybe that wouldn't be considered fine mallet work anymore.

Zach Dillinger
02-04-2013, 1:00 PM
I hold my chisels like I'm holding a pencil. Down near the business end. I find this gives me the most control. I usually hold it with my thumb on the face and the middle and pointer fingers holding the bevels My ring and pinkie fingers are usually on the work itself to help guide the chisel. This is only for mallet work, of course paring is different altogether.

David Weaver
02-04-2013, 1:15 PM
The reason this came up as a question, IIRC, or at least one of them, is because of those tools that Tommy Mac made, or had made, that had the very MLB-like picture on them of a guy banging away on a chisel. In the logo, the person holding the chisel was holding only the handle, far up from the cutting edge.

The immediate response was (including from me), "the picture was put together with the guy holding the wrong end of the chisel".

I see pictures and videos of people holding various parts of the chisel, the japanese users are almost always holding up on the handle (some of the chisel profiles don't permit comfortable use any other way). Then, there are folks making butt chisels - very very short butt chisels - to do dovetail work, and holding them like a pencil.

As time goes on, being a pig of tools and having a lot around to play with, I gravitate more toward the old forged bolster buck tang type chisels (the very old ones that are flat with a very delicate bevel) , and japanese chisels, and less toward the socket chisels. I wish I could find a full set of the buck types, but it's almost a waste of time looking for them on purpose. They're very light and have very nice feel held on the handles.

Andrae Covington
02-04-2013, 1:32 PM
I do both at the same time. For fine malleting with my Ashley Iles Mk2's I hold the chisel at the ferrule, partially holding the handle, partially the blade. I extend my thumb up the handle as an outrigger. Considering the relative size of the blade and handle on those chisels, I am holding them slightly above the centerline, which seems to provide me the most stability. If I am going to tap at or near a scribed line or other precise location, I use my malleting hand (sans mallet) to temporarily hold the chisel near the tip to place it where it want it to go before picking up the mallet.

Tom Scott
02-04-2013, 1:40 PM
I used to switch between holding it low and at the handle, and tended to hold it low in the blade when doing fine chopping such as on dovetails. When I got my L-N chisels I pretty much had to move to holding at the handle since I kept slicing my hands because the sides were so sharp. I now always hold at the handle no matter which chisels I'm using, and actually find it easier and more balanced this way.

Jim Stewart
02-04-2013, 1:50 PM
I'm with Zach! I hold the chisel like a pencil. You have so much control by doing so.

This forum has taught me a lot of things and I admit i do change slowly to new but foreign to me methods. I still cannot believe that holding by the handle is an advantage and I don't think I will try it at this point. Heck, I started by holding at the handle and moved to near the edge. ....I have old stanley chisels, LN chisels, and now the new steel LV chisels. They all are sweet but I seem to grab the LV's more and more.

Richard Shaefer
02-04-2013, 1:59 PM
butt chisels I hold at the buisness end. I like to set the chisel edge to leave the pencil line and hold it there before I whack it. Bench and paring length chisels only get held at the handle or the the socket, at the lowest. They're just too long to reliably hit with the mallet while hilding at the bottom. I suppose of you're whacking a paring chisel with a mallet, you have other issues, but I like sighting down a long straight chisel when whacking a critica line that head to be dead straight.

george wilson
02-04-2013, 2:05 PM
I hold around the ferrule area,half on blade,half on the handle for sculpting with a mallet. For mortising,I hold the handle. For freehand pushing a paring chisel,I hold the handle. It depends upon what task I'm doing.

Sean Hughto
02-04-2013, 2:30 PM
This question seems euphemistically suspect.

Adam Cruea
02-04-2013, 2:40 PM
For chopping, I hold the ferrule. For paring, I keep a thumb on the top of the blade and hold the handle in my right hand (sometimes I hold on the ferrule, though). For mortising, I grab a handful of handle and start whacking.

Jim Matthews
02-04-2013, 5:37 PM
I hold onto the handle so I don't whack something bony when I miss...

I have conclusive proof that mallets are razor sharp,
I took a dime size divot outen my left pointer, holding the handle too low.

Jessica Pierce-LaRose
02-04-2013, 6:48 PM
I hold the blade, but right up by the handle, where my chisels flare from full width in to the neck and then back out to the bolster. Sometimes I keep my thumb on the handle as Andrae suggests, similar to the grips that Peter Follansbee shows in his section on tool holding and grips in his first LN video.

So I guess I don't hold the handle only, but I don't hold the blade closer to the cutting edge, either.

Mark Baldwin III
02-04-2013, 7:23 PM
This question seems euphemistically suspect.

Funny, can I steal that? It made me picture a politician being grilled behind a podium about some transgression he or she may or may not have committed.
Back to chisels, still on the upward learning curve, I hold at the business end when I'm trying to be accurate. I say "trying" because I'm not always very accurate.

steven c newman
02-04-2013, 7:23 PM
I'll set the chisel with the fingers close to the edge end, then move back up to whack the handle. I don't like it when a chisel hops back up out of the cut, looking for a finger to cut. Hold it close to the edgeonly long enough to tap the handle to start to cut,, slide back up onto the handle to whack the chisel. Make any sense???

David Weaver
02-05-2013, 10:49 AM
This question seems euphemistically suspect.

I could create a poll that would really start the double entendres, but I won't.

Zach Dillinger
02-05-2013, 12:03 PM
I could create a poll that would really start the double entendres, but I won't.

Shouldn't that be a pole?

Jim Koepke
02-05-2013, 1:05 PM
For fine mallet work, it would have to be by the handle.

jtk

David Weaver
02-05-2013, 8:41 PM
It's interesting to me how many people chose blade instead of handle. I kind of figured that it would go blade for the inexperienced and more toward handle as experience becomes greater.

David Weaver
02-05-2013, 8:42 PM
Shouldn't that be a pole?

Most definitely. Missed opportunity there.

Jim Matthews
02-07-2013, 6:54 AM
As long as there isn't a lengthy discussion on the merit of various butt-chisel diameters, why not?