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Rob Dickson
12-05-2012, 4:21 PM
O.k...so I'm new to this. I make no bones about it, there's a LOT of things I don't know when it comes to woodworking and "traditional" woodworking in particular. The vast majority of my learning has come from books and my experience thus far has been with home renovations, a couple of fireplace mantels, some built its, etc. Oh, and I'm completely self taught. I don't profess to be an expert by any means as this is very definitely a hobby for me and is about as far removed from my regular job as you can get. I'm firmly in the beginner, newbie, pain in the a$$ camp for stupid questions and a complete lack of experience...that being said, I read a huge amount from books, blogs and basically anywhere I can further my knowledge. I'm slowly putting together my hand tool kit and have been looking hard at building a bench. The bench I've almost made up my mind on is a fairly modest project and I've been advised that it is completely within the scope of a beginner to build. So today I stop at a local lumber yard in order to start getting an idea of the price and availability of the lumber I'll require. I start to describe to one of the guys what I'm looking for in a slab and that I also realize that laminating DF may be my best option for the bench top as I live in northern British Columbia. Well, without going into the gory details, I was told, in no uncertain terms, that NOBODY builds a bench using solid slabs of wood any longer. When I asked why this was the case, I was told that the moisture content if far too high and that the top would never be stable enough. I told the fellow that I've been doing a fair bit of research and that many woodworkers are using hard maple, beech, etc for their benches. This earned me a look that said that I was completely "out to lunch". I then asked about using DF in order to laminate a top and was shown DF at the low, low price of $12.00 a board foot for a 2x10! I asked about getting the DF in a 6x6 and was again told that this was ridiculous and that no-one would use such a thing as it too was unstable. During the conversation, it also can up that I intended to dress all my stock using hand planes....guy obviously thought I was a mental patient and started looking around for a straight jacket. All in all, I left the store feeling like a complete idiot...the worst of it is that this store is the only shop in town that carries anything in the way of "exotic" wood, slabs, etc. I'm not looking forward to going back in at a later date and dealing with staff who quite obviously think I'm not all there....

At any rate...I didn't really have a question or anything. Just wanted to blow off some steam. I hate being made to feel like a complete tool when I haven't made any pretenses to the fact that I don't have the knowledge and am looking for help.

Zach Dillinger
12-05-2012, 4:31 PM
Sometimes you get lucky and find a store where the staff are actually knowledgeable. It sounds like you haven't been that lucky... You know that you shouldn't go to them for advice, so your next interaction will be better. Walk in and tell them what you want.

If you want a slab, find somebody with a sawmill. It's easier and will be significantly cheaper. And you won't have to deal with people who don't know what you are trying to accomplish.

Gabe Shackle
12-05-2012, 4:41 PM
If you are going to look for a slab, craigslist or the local classifieds is your friend. I was able to secure some 4"x4"x8' Ash for just over $15 a board through a contact on craigslist. Was pretty interesting, turned out they're in the business of hand-crafted caskets and had tons of extra lumber that they sell on the side when they don't need it.

Jim Foster
12-05-2012, 4:43 PM
I think you need to find another sales guy or another source for lumber. For DF, if you can find construction grade, it should be much more affordable

Rob Dickson
12-05-2012, 5:01 PM
I guess I was partly disappointed as this was not one of the big box stores, and I expected better from them. I've dealt with them in the past (not this particular sales guy) and have always found them to be helpful and knowledgeable. I called the store on Monday asking about the availability and cost of southern yellow pine and after describing to the guy on the phone what I wanted to do, he suggested I come down to the store and discuss it further and have a look at some of the slabs they did have in stock. The phone conversation was very positive and was really looking forward to going in today. I don't know, maybe the guy today was having a bad day or something, but I left there feeling stupid.

I've actually got a guy down the road from me who sporadically runs a specialty mill. He's got irregular hours so catching him is a bit tricky at times. I live in the largest forestry town in Northern British Columbia and figured that, in the very least, I could source and build the entire bench, with DF, for a very reasonable price...what about the moisture issue though? Is a moisture meter going to be a "must have" item?

george wilson
12-05-2012, 5:13 PM
I got my beechwood sawn at a country sawmill cheap. I had to wait for the 4x6"s to dry for 4 years inside my shop. Luckily,I found a 24" x 4" x8ft. piece of beech in a lumber yard of a country sawmill. I let it dry too. Paid $10.00 for it!! Of course,it had a piece of barbed wire running near 1 end. I drilled it out and hammered in boat shaped plugs.

If you know someone with a Wood Miser saw mill,you can get wood cut cheap,but it is green,of course. You could get it cut to over 2" and dry it in 2 years and laminate it if you can wait.

With those prices quoted above,buying a maple top from Grizzly is looking more like a bargain!! I bought a 3' x 8' one for a work table. The legs are 3x3" angle iron,welded up. Really a very rigid table. I use it for metalworking.

Carl Beckett
12-05-2012, 5:14 PM
During the conversation, it also can up that I intended to dress all my stock using hand planes....guy obviously thought I was a mental patient and started looking around for a straight jacket.

All in all, I left the store feeling like a complete idiot...

.

This is a good thing you know. I like it when people talk about me in this way: "You know what that lunatic is up to now??"

And if you think about it, they are right (why WOULD anyone dress all this down with hand tools!!). Well..... because g$! dammit, because! :)

$12 / bd ft is crazy high. Availability of supply I guess. I feel for you on that one, and hope you can find something more reasonable (what does it take to have something shipped in??)

All progress is brought about by one lunatic on a rampage.....

Or more politely:

A reasonable person looks at the world and adapts.

An unreasonable person looks at the world, and tries to get the world to adapt to them!

So all progress is brought about by the unreasonable person.

Marko Milisavljevic
12-05-2012, 5:31 PM
In BC SYP is not an option, but I found some very nice almost completely knot free straight grained douglas fir on Vancouver craigslist last year for about $50 - someone had a leftover from a project. More than enough to build one big heavy bench. Just keep looking around until you develop better sources. I bet there is a guy or few in Prince George who has some trees on their acreage, a small sawmill and a much better price than local lumberyard. Douglas Fir for $12/bdft in BC just can't be right.

Bruce Haugen
12-05-2012, 5:36 PM
Take everybody's advice and do what you know is best. Get thee to a sawmill and find someone who will give you what you want. Ignore that know-nothing yokel. There's nothing worse than unhelpful help.

According to his standards, I guess that bench I made from 2X4's about 28 years ago isn't going to hold together, either.

Rob Mathis
12-05-2012, 5:49 PM
Douglas Fir is $12. a board foot? Are you kidding me? In the Pacific North West? Shoot, I would switch to Maple if that is the case. Also shop around at that price you could have something shipped in via LTL. Did you look at the wood finder site to see if there is anyone else in your area?

Gabe Shackle
12-05-2012, 6:19 PM
The more I think about that price the more I wonder if the salesman was confusing board foot with per board. $12 for a 2x10x8' sounds about right in my neck of the woods (minnesota).

Rob Dickson
12-05-2012, 6:36 PM
Thanks guys....I can't figure out what he was quoting either. I actually just refreshed myself with the definition of "board-foot" vs. "linear foot" in case I was screwing something up. While I was in there, and before I looked at the DF, I saw they had a maple slab that was about 2.5 inches thick by 12 feet long and approximately 18 inches wide selling for $11.58 a board foot....i was very surprised when he gave me the $12 price on the DF.

I'm out of town tomorrow, but just got a line on another small local mill from a neighbor. I'll try and track that down on Friday. If all else fails I know where there's a large slab of ash (and another of white oak)....its on the other side of the country in Nova Scotia but at these prices the shipping may be worth it!

Thanks for all the responses...I was really starting to believe that my expectations were unreasonable up to this point.

Rob Dickson
12-05-2012, 6:58 PM
Bit of an update...just found a mill about an hour away that sells mainly to the Timber framing industry. Great guy to talk to, and just quoted me $50.00 for two 4"x12"x 6 foot slabs of DF. He also said that they should be able to help out with my 6x6 legs too! Apparently these timbers have been air drying for a year inside one of their storage barns....now I'm excited! Its been a hell of a day!

Prashun Patel
12-05-2012, 7:32 PM
Congrats. Not to be a parade rainer, but if poss, check the mc on those 6 x 6 timers. One year air drying might be on the short side.


Also slabs are cool and all, but a laminate top will be a might more stable. Plus u can make it thicker.


Know that u Are paying a premium for that length and width. Buying smaller pieces may be quite a bit cheaper with the benefit of resulting in a bench w more mass.


Just sayin.

george wilson
12-05-2012, 7:48 PM
You need 1" thickness PER YEAR to dry hard woods. Would be less for soft woods,but more than a year is needed. Can you get anyone to include it in a kiln load for you?

Rob Dickson
12-05-2012, 7:52 PM
Thanks Prashun, the one year dry time has been on the 4x12's....is that still a little short? I'm not sure what the mc status will be on the 6x6 pieces. I may also have the option of going with a pine in a bit smaller dimension. The cool thing about the pine is that its covered with these long wide blue/grey colored bands due to the pine beetle infestation up here. I have to look at the pine further to determine if it will work for my bench base...any input is appreciated!

As far as the cost goes, $50 for the two slabs is a screamin' deal compared to my experience earlier in the day....

I really don't know about the stability....I'm not sure what to think. I've used para-lam beams in construction and know that they are supposedly stronger than a solid wood beam of equal dimensions, but thought this was due to the amount of compression and adhesives used in their manufacture. Correct me if I'm wrong (please!), but I thought that a solid slab was the preferred method if available?

Rob Dickson
12-05-2012, 7:56 PM
You need 1" thickness PER YEAR to dry hard woods. Would be less for soft woods,but more than a year is needed. Can you get anyone to include it in a kiln load for you?

Thanks George, I wasn't aware of the dry times. I have a neighbor who works at one of the local mills....I'll stop by and see if something like that is an option....sounds like I may be continuing my search, or going with a lamination....not certain I can afford all the clamps!

Jim Matthews
12-05-2012, 7:57 PM
That's excellent.

People have been building this way for centuries - there are still practioners out there.
I recommned finding any local boat builders, they've always got stash and tools to sell.

There's a small scale school in Vancouver, they might point you toward someone closer to home.
(Or you could make the jaunt, yourself!)

http://www.thejoint.ca/

I highly recommend taking a few hours of basic instruction, there's no substitute to direct tutelage.
I've had several "A-ha!" moments that weren't part of the curriculum, and they've saved me months of struggle.

If you do take a course, choose one where they supply, and provide access to tools.

Keep a list of each tool used, and tick off the number of times you handle each.
Most tickmarks = first purchase

One thing I would recommend, if you intend to follow a self-study, have a look on YouTube at Paul Seller's stuff.
The man has some simple methods that are efficient and repeatable.

Most of his handplaning is done with a very small #4, about the same size as my favorite "Jack plane" from HNT Gordon.

Keep us posted on the build, won't you?

PS - Have a look at Rob's Logan Cabinet Shoppe on bench design and workholding. Some bench building conventions
were set out by hardware makers, not furniture makers.

Damon Stathatos
12-05-2012, 8:10 PM
No reason to be discouraged, build what you want. If you want to build a slab top...do it. When you're building your second top, this time laminated because you want it to stay flat, you'll look back on that jerk and may say to yourself...that guy was a real jerk, but now I understand he may have been just trying to help me out. Making your own mistakes is the best teacher. You'll also learn a lot about wood...slabs don't stay flat, they move back and forth, dry season...wet season. Not just slabs either, but (most) every piece of wood you ever assemble is going to move and in time, you'll learn how it's going to move and know whether or not to make allowances for it. It's the essence of the craft, no way around it.

You're in the fun stage, you get to learn everything, most of it for the first time. Embrace it. Don't let one personality-challenged guy get to you, most guys in this field are some of the greatest guys you'll ever meet. You're definitely going in the right direction here (SMC) as you've just met a bunch of them.

Rob Dickson
12-05-2012, 8:11 PM
Hi Jim...thanks for the link. I wasn't aware of the school in Vancouver and only recently learned about Jim Tolpins school in Port Townsend. Its about a 12-14 hour drive from home here but I had thought about trying to get down there for one of his courses. Unfortunately, summer is a very busy time at work and I wasn't sure about how I was going to get the time off. It would be an easy sell to my wife as she always seems to be up for a shopping trip to Vancouver!

My kit is coming along...I've got my basic plane set (LV low angle smoother, jack and Jointer) and have been bringing a few old saws back to life. After a bit more over time at work I'll be purchasing my sharpening kit from Stu and collecting a few other of the "basics". I like your idea of keeping track of the tools used during a class, and if I get to one, I'll be sure try that out.

Heading over to you tube and the Logan cabinet shop site now!

David Posey
12-05-2012, 11:41 PM
Having done the laminated bench thing without a bench to work from a couple years ago, I would strongly recommend you start with those slabs. They won't be dry yet (although the will be considerably drier if they have been there for two summers instead of just one) and they will move some, but you have the tools to flatten a bench. Just make sure to build a rock solid base, and then if you decide you need to build a laminated top later, you have a space to work from. You can put a new top on your existing base if you want.

If you want to get them drier, you might be able to find a small kiln operator. I know some of the guys with bandsaw mills have built their own kilns. Just make sure they know what they're doing if you're going to invest time and money into that. This lumber will take longer to dry than 4/4 or 8/4 stuff, and if it's done wrong it can really affect the usability of the piece because of warping, splitting, etc.

If you do use these without further drying, make sure they have been treated with Timbor or something like it. It's probably already been done by the guy you're buying them from, but better to be safe than sorry when it comes to wood bugs.

Ron Kellison
12-06-2012, 12:05 AM
$12 BF is ridiculous! I know where you can get a stack of 80 pieces of 4" x 6" old growth DF for $2 BF (or less) just East of Windsor, Ontario. Each timber is 21.75 feet long with no holes, metal or large knots. It was all removed from an old Hiram Walker warehouse in the late 70's. Apparently, there was so much DF taken from these warehouses around Essex, Ontario that auctioneers around there can't even get a bid on a stash of wood that would probably go for $5-7 in other markets.

Best regards,

Ron

Victor Robinson
12-06-2012, 1:19 AM
Rob, not to worry. We all take our lumps at the beginning of this hobby with experiences like yours. It's part of the learning process, and I know it can be especially frustrating for those of us who are not as exposed to the wood and tool industries (e.g. by having very unrelated vocations). I remember my first trip to the hardwood dealer to buy an exotic board for my first "special" project. The guy sized me up as having no idea what I was doing, was rude, and completely ripped me off (but I was clueless to this fact until later). My first trip to a WW store to place an order for a tablesaw? Wowsers...equally maddening. But stick with it, keep reading, learn from those who don't mind helping, and soon you'll know more than some of the goofballs giving you grief in the beginning.

By the way, I imagine the $12/bdft price was for clear, vertical grain DF. Even my hardwood dealer (with very very good prices for the region) charges $7-8/bdft for the stuff and we're practically rolling in it down here.

Good luck with your bench build!

Adam Cruea
12-06-2012, 8:28 AM
Don't feel bad about hand planing the boards.

My local sawyer (thankfully I found him on the second try) looked at me like I was nuts when I told him I wanted to hand plane hickory to size for a bench. His comment was along the lines of "Not afraid of hard work, huh? Make sure and eat your Wheaties before you attempt it." He was right. . .hand planing a bench of hickory is not easy, but it is an indescribable satisfaction to be able to do what most people are either not skilled enough to do or don't have the patience/endurance to do.

That being said, I'm not sure I would go back to that sawyer, Rob. I can handle a lot, but poor customer service is not something I handle well.

Also, I would take Mr. Posey's advice. Unless you're up for crazy clamping and some cussing, having something to build a bench on is a great idea. I'm trying to build a laminated hickory workbench right now, and after 2 months I finally have the base done (and finished with a coat of BLO). It was not easy, and the tiny bench my wife bought from IKEA didn't last through the mortises I chopped out. So like David said, make sure and make a solid base, mate it with a slab (but make sure it's removable from the base), then work on laminating something. Double bonus, you can use the slab for another project, or maybe even some sort of table. :)

David Keller NC
12-06-2012, 10:35 AM
Thanks George, I wasn't aware of the dry times. I have a neighbor who works at one of the local mills....I'll stop by and see if something like that is an option....sounds like I may be continuing my search, or going with a lamination....not certain I can afford all the clamps!

Rob- What George is quoting is very much the rule of thumb for air-drying lumber. But as someone that cuts the trees down and mills some of his own lumber, I can tell you that there's a great deal of variation around this rule of thumb. For southern yellow pine in my area (SE US), one summer in the stacks is more than sufficient to get the MC content as low as it's going to go.

There's an inexpensive way you can verify the MC of wood that you want to use as long as you have a cheap kitchen scale. Cut a sample out of the board - the ideal way to do this is to buy wood that is twice as long as you need, cut them in two, and take a sample out of the former middle of the board. If you can't do that because your lumber is only as long as you need it, not to worry - take about a 1/2" drill, and drill a hole to a depth of 1/2 of the thickness of the lumber, and carefully catch all of the shavings from the drilling operation. The only drawback of the drill sample method is that you will have to have a quite accurate scale to get an accurate MC.

Weigh either the sample or the shavings immediately on the kitchen scale, and write down the weight. Place the sample/shavings in the oven that has been pre-heated to about 150 deg F. Leave the sample/shavings in for 30 minutes, then take it out and weigh it. Do that again in an hour. Continue baking/weighing until the sample levels out at a specific weight. Then subtract the baked sample weight from the original, pre-baked sample weight, and divide by the baked sample weight. This result will be the MC of the pre-baked sample, and thus a pretty good estimate of your lumber.

Anything less than about 10% MC is A-OK for building a bench. If you're in a wet area (like the Pacific Northwest), and your shop is going to be in an unheated space, probably anything less than about 14% should be fine.

bob blakeborough
12-06-2012, 11:50 AM
If you are in BC, have a look at http://www.westwindhardwood.com/

I live in Calgary and ordered 200bf of kiln dried 8/4 Ash for my bench from these guys and had it delivered from there mill to my house in Calgary. At the time it worked out to $2.95/BF. They were easy to deal with and everything was quick. Pricing was really reasonable and I was not disappointed in the least. If you order larger quantities like I did, they will give you better pricing than what shows on the site too...

As for going into stores and getting those cross-eyed looks and idiotic comments from people that just have no concept of what hand tool work is all about, I get that all the time too, as I am sure most of us who work like this do. Don't let it get to you. I have learned skate around what I am doing when asking advice until I can establish that the person I am talking to is not a complete fool. Places like this forum are where you will get your best advice, and then just shop accordingly. Who cares that the worker bees stand around wondering what the hell you are doing while sorting through piles of 2/12's or whatever... lol

Rodney Walker
12-06-2012, 10:46 PM
I'd say go with the 4x12s and 6x6s from the timber frame guy. $50 for a 2ft x6ft top with only one glue line seems pretty reasonable to me. Yes the wood will move some as it dries and you may even have to reflatten it a time or two but you'll have a good sturdy bench ready for a lifetime of work when you're done. Wood you get from a local mill will probably be wetter still. If the boards are plain sawn and they most likely are, point the rings up on one and down on the other to minimize cupping as they dry. You'll end up with one cupping up and the other cupping down instead. A little easier to keep flat than having the cup all in one direction and less stress on the bench's frame. You may also consider making the bench where you can take it apart. If you build a roubo style with flush legs, eventually the top will shrink and pull the legs into an "A" frame shape. It may not affect your work, but if it does it would be good to be able to remove the stretchers and shorten them after the top is done shrinking from drying.
Just my opinions,
Rodney
From the wet side of Washington.
You may want to bring the guys at the wood store you went to a jar of Vaseline. Sounds like they have their heads stuck in some pretty dark places.

Stanley Covington
12-07-2012, 12:39 AM
I really don't know about the stability....I'm not sure what to think. I've used para-lam beams in construction and know that they are supposedly stronger than a solid wood beam of equal dimensions, but thought this was due to the amount of compression and adhesives used in their manufacture. Correct me if I'm wrong (please!), but I thought that a solid slab was the preferred method if available?

Laminated lumber, including paralams and glulams and other products, are a commercial product also know as "engineered" lumber, meaning that standard cross sections have been designed and their "engineering strength" determined through extensive destructive testing. This engineering strength is intended to be an approximation of the minimum stress a member can be subjected to without failing (plus a safety factor, of course).

The problem with solid lumber/timbers as a commercial product and from a structural engineering viewpoint is that they are not uniform. Besides defects like warping, twisting, cracks, shakes and knots, grain runout is entirely unpredictable from piece to piece with resulting unpredictable variations in strength. So to account for the unpredictable nature of solid lumber, the engineering strength is assumed to be much less than that a of a perfect, defect-free, or even average, piece of solid lumber of the same dimensions. Laminated lumber does not (and cannot) rely on continuous grain, and shakes and knots are not an issue, so even though it is heavier and often weaker than a perfect (or even average) piece of lumber of the same dimensions and wood type, its engineering strength is considered higher.

But if you are doing handwork, and can eyeball, and thump, and spring a piece of lumber with your own two hands, you can tell for yourself if it is strong/weak/suitable and use/modify/reject it accordingly. So the careful and experienced woodworker can still use solid lumber more efficiently than an idiot can use engineered lumber. Sadly, such skills are gone, or at least not taught to Mexican workers on American jobsites.

Sorry for the lecture, but the way the engineered lumber business markets its materials confuses most people, and irritates the hell out of me.

Stan

Stanley Covington
12-07-2012, 2:48 AM
You may want to bring the guys at the wood store you went to a jar of Vaseline. Sounds like they have their heads stuck in some pretty dark places.

But my, they are flexible!:D

Rick Fisher
12-07-2012, 3:59 AM
$12.00 would probably be per lineal foot for C & Better KD Clear S4S D-Fir. Lumberyards in BC stock clear moulding grade fir. Its S4S and gets used for interior finishing .. Its expensive, but ready to go .. Basically it sells for about $7500/FBM ..

Westwind is a great supplier but they are located on the Island. Shipping back to the Mainland and up to PG won't be cheap. I am betting you went into Windsor..

If your building a bench, " S4S KD-FIR " is pretty easy to get in BC .. It wont be clear, but it will be cheap. Its dried to 17% rather than the 8% that moulding grade fir will be dried to, but I would still use it.. I am willing to guess that 2x4 will cost about .35 cents a foot. Coastal Fir is superior to the Interior fir your going to find in PG but end of the day, if you laminate it all together, it will be really strong.

If you want something nice, your probably going to have to order it from Vancouver. I can give you a long list of wholesalers in the lower mainland if you need it .. Depends on what species and quality you want.

Jim Matthews
12-08-2012, 7:31 AM
I wonder if there are any modular timber frame builders near you?

Any Government surplus boatbuilders supply?
I forget how easy it is to find supplies on the "other coast".

Jim
Westport, MA USA
where there's STILL no hockey

Rob Dickson
12-08-2012, 11:55 AM
I wonder if there are any modular timber frame builders near you?

Hey Jim,

I ended up finding a log home/timber frame builder about an hour away who has year old, DF 4x12 slabs. I can get two slabs for $50 and he thinks he can help me out with the 6x6 timbers as well. One of the other board members (thanks again Bob!) sent me a list of hardwood suppliers here in British Columbia as well. I've been playing phone tag with a couple of them and have been looking at the options of maple or ash too...not a bad problem to think about, and with the NHL strike still on there's some time too!

george wilson
12-08-2012, 12:10 PM
I did mention soft wood drying time would be quicker.

You could use ropes and a tightening stick as bar clamps to clamp up your top,provided the edges of your planks are pretty straight,and do not need to be forced together (which is never a good idea.)

Rob Dickson
12-08-2012, 3:08 PM
I did mention soft wood drying time would be quicker.

You could use ropes and a tightening stick as bar clamps to clamp up your top,provided the edges of your planks are pretty straight,and do not need to be forced together (which is never a good idea.)

Hi George,

Can I ask you about the ropes and tightening stick? Are you referring to clamping it as you would a tourniquet for a wound?

Kevin Grady
12-08-2012, 3:53 PM
Let them think your nuts. Next time you go in, tell them you're looking for a log so you carve a canoe with a butter knife. Maybe they'll give you a mental health discount :)

Jim Matthews
12-09-2012, 7:29 AM
Again, you're getting excellent results right there in your neighborhood.

My expectation is that you will meet one or two old timers during your bench build.
They will have material and tools rolling around to sell off to a newbie.

If there were industrial arts classes at any of the nearby secondary schools (grades 9 and higher) there will
be some larger tools, and likely lumber stashed away in somebody's barn.

One caution - milling lumber is a laborious process by hand.
If you buy rough lumber, follow through to see if the seller can at least plane it flat.

I found my last project was 1/2 shorter, as I bought my boards surfaced on two sides.
(S2S) It was a step I didn't miss doing all that much.

george wilson
12-09-2012, 7:37 AM
I am suggesting wrapping rope around the bench,and putting a stick through 1 edge and tightening like a tourniquet. Things like this were done in the old days when tools were fewer. I know a guy who hauled a fairly large boat up on a beach using a twisted rope to very slowly pull it way up on the beach. It is called a "Spanish windlass". I mean,this was a pretty heavy boat!!

If you wound the rope pretty tight,you could also just try driving wooden wedges under the rope on the edges. BUT,since rope stretches so much,you'd likely run out of wedge. So,try the tourniquet method lest you find your glue setting up before you can get the rope tight enough. Try a dry run first.

Jim Matthews
12-09-2012, 9:49 AM
"Spanish windlass".
If you wound the rope pretty tight,you could also just try driving wooden wedges under the rope on the edges. BUT,since rope stretches so much,you'd likely run out of wedge. So,try the tourniquet method lest you find your glue setting up before you can get the rope tight enough. Try a dry run first.

http://www.roehmguitars.com/joining-and-clamping-instrument-tops-and-backs

It would work, of course.

I would not do it this way. I would use threaded rod and shop made end blocks to clamp the boards together.
You'll need several lengths of rod - long enough to reach across the two boards and the stout clamping ends.

A couple of washers and nuts large enough to turn the works tight - plus some means to align the two boards so they ride in the same plane.
This glue up step is your chance to get the surface really close to planar, without heavy handplane work afterwards.
http://benchmark.20m.com/workshop/Jigs_General/Jigs_General.html

Half way down, you'll see a small example of what I mean to describe. I would use a hex nut to be turned with a wrench.
(It should be a size wrench you already own...)

I would also want to get joinery done when the two boards are separated - this thing will be massive when assembled.

A wooden alternative with wedges - http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/print_etip021601sn.html
Less likely to stain the top during glue up (cover with wax paper during assembly).