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Reed Gray
11-06-2012, 1:16 PM
The drive belt on my 16HD Laguna bandsaw needs to be changed. The only way to get the old belt off is to take the drive wheel off. Please, some one shoot the designer. It takes a 3/8 inch drive v belt on a 5 hp Baldor motor. Shoot the designer again. Link belt on order...... Tighten up the old belt a tiny bit more to get through a couple of cuts...... I really need to design and build my own resaw bandsaw....... I guess I couldn't shoot the designer then if I had any complaints......

robo hippy

Bernie Weishapl
11-06-2012, 1:29 PM
Yep it sucks. I have to take the drive wheel off mine to.

Richard Coers
11-06-2012, 2:24 PM
Is taking the drive wheel off difficult on that machine? Usually it just means you take out one bolt and slide the wheel off a shaft. Did you check that the link belt will handle as much hp as a standard v-belt? Unless they mount the motor a long distance from the wheel so they can get belt length, I don't see any other way to rout the belt.

Reed Gray
11-06-2012, 2:44 PM
Well, the link belts are stronger and drive better than standard V belts as near as I can tell. To take the wheel off, one hex bolt in the center, and one of those snap rings. Just too much work for me, and I would worry about getting the wheel back on perfect. Just bad design work to me. Link belt will solve the problem and be easier to adjust. Found out long ago that needle nose pliers really help for putting in one more or one less link. My fingers don't have that much dexterity for that kind of detail work. Maybe with more of the "right" tools.... Problem is I had to order it. Oh, well......

robo hippy

John Beaver
11-06-2012, 4:05 PM
Reed,
Is there a bandsaw where you don't have to remove the wheel to change the belt?

Jim Underwood
11-06-2012, 4:47 PM
That's ridiculous. I don't even have to do that on my cheap Buffalo brand saw. And I think the belt tensioning mechanism on it is the dumbest thing I ever saw....

ray hampton
11-06-2012, 7:25 PM
If you can install a new belt with the pulleys installed, the belt can be cut if you do not need it

Harry Robinette
11-06-2012, 7:45 PM
Jim
How is your saw different, I've never heard of a BS that you don't have to remove the lower wheel to change the drive belt.

David Kumm
11-06-2012, 8:04 PM
I would replace with a VX drive belt. Proper for a 5 hp motor. The others are fractional HP belts. Dave

Paul Saffold
11-06-2012, 8:36 PM
You just need to upgrade to a RIDGED bs:D. I agree that many products are not designed for easy maintenance.

John Lanciani
11-06-2012, 8:48 PM
I would replace with a VX drive belt. Proper for a 5 hp motor. The others are fractional HP belts. Dave

Since it's an import it is more likely to be a metric belt, either SPZ or XPZ. These are similar to a VX belt but the profile is slightly different. VX belts don't engage metric sheaves correctly and tend to slip and run hot because of it.

David Kumm
11-06-2012, 9:32 PM
Since it's an import it is more likely to be a metric belt, either SPZ or XPZ. These are similar to a VX belt but the profile is slightly different. VX belts don't engage metric sheaves correctly and tend to slip and run hot because of it.

John, I wasn't aware of that. My SCMI machines are all spec'd with VX belts. I've got to look at some other machines. The VX seem to have metric length designations. Dave

Erik Loza
11-06-2012, 9:58 PM
Reed, I have never changed the belt on an ACM saw but have many, many times on our Centauros. It is not a complicated job because unlike the upper wheel, the lower is not pressed on. Just back out the four clock bolts on the rear hub, the main through-bolt on the front, and the wheel should lift away freely from the saw. Hope this helps,

Erik Loza
Minimax USA

Jim Underwood
11-06-2012, 10:20 PM
Jim
How is your saw different, I've never heard of a BS that you don't have to remove the lower wheel to change the drive belt.

The shaft for the bottom wheel runs through the casting to the drive pulley. The motor and it's pulley is mounted below that pulley on a slanted plate with adjustment holes in it. Simply loosen the bolts holding the motor on, then loosen the belt. Replace, and then fiddle with the adjustment bolts for an hour or so...

Reed Gray
11-07-2012, 11:58 AM
Well, surprised to find this got moved from woodturning over to here... Anyway, I checked my small bandsaw, an industrial 14 inch PM with a 3/4 or 1 hp motor. The motor sits in a cabinet below, and the belt goes up to the bandsaw wheel, and is plenty long to slip off and on. The Laguna is different. A small pulley, about 3 inch diameter on the motor, which goes to an 8 inch wheel on the main 16 inch drive wheel for the blades. The belt is maybe 12 inch diameter, and won't even come close to fitting over the 16 inch wheel. A new belt can not be put on without removing the big wheel, or you install a link belt which works better anyway. Just a lousy design concept. Like I said, I may have to design my own bandsaw for woodturners and resawing.

robo hippy

Rian de Bruyn
11-07-2012, 12:18 PM
Reed,
Is there a bandsaw where you don't have to remove the wheel to change the belt?
Yes on the Ryobi bs you remove the motor !!!!!!!!!!!!!

John Coloccia
11-07-2012, 12:34 PM
Not sure if this is the problem the OP is having, but on the 14" Laguna's I've assembled, there is not enough travel in the motor mount and you need to remove the motor and angle it to get the belt off (the motor comes unmounted, so it's the reverse procedure to get it in). Even on the slackest setting, the belt is too tight IMHO, so that will give you an idea of how messed up it is. The first one I assembled, I was thinking "Hey, they made a little boo boo...I'm sure it will get fixed". By the 3rd one, over the course of a year, it became obvious that there was no intention whatsoever to fix it.

To do it is really a 2 person job, it's inconvenient and is a major design flaw IMHO. I just recommend to most people to replace it with a links belt.

Wes Grass
11-07-2012, 12:42 PM
Most of the time, you can get a tight v belt onto the edge of the pulley and run it back on by turning the wheel, like putting the chain back on your bicycle when you were a kid.

Can be hard on fingers though, if you screw up.

Replaced the belts, 3 of them, on my lathe like this. Just walked them from one groove to the next. But I had a fair amount of run between pulleys to help out.

ray hampton
11-07-2012, 1:54 PM
Most of the time, you can get a tight v belt onto the edge of the pulley and run it back on by turning the wheel, like putting the chain back on your bicycle when you were a kid.

Can be hard on fingers though, if you screw up.

Replaced the belts, 3 of them, on my lathe like this. Just walked them from one groove to the next. But I had a fair amount of run between pulleys to help out.

I have use a screwdriver to ply the belt off the pulley before by holding the driver tip under the belt and turn the pulley by hand

Myk Rian
11-07-2012, 5:32 PM
A 3/8" belt on a 5hp motor? Seems awfully small.


Jim
How is your saw different, I've never heard of a BS that you don't have to remove the lower wheel to change the drive belt.
Really? Would you like to restate that?

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glenn bradley
11-07-2012, 5:36 PM
Is taking the drive wheel off difficult on that machine?

I'm curious as well. I took the drive wheel of my 17" just so I didn't have to cut the original belt when I swapped it for a link belt. Took the opportunity to do a good cleaning and touch up. Runs spooky-quiet now.

Mark Leu
11-07-2012, 8:38 PM
So disappointed. Saw the title of the thread and thought we would be discussing pirates...oh well