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Terry Hatfield
04-18-2005, 10:14 PM
Howdy everyone,

I'm getting closer to having a full set of type 3 Bedrocks. I thought I'd throw out a couple pics. Here's my 604C, 605C, 606C and 607C. I've redone all of them and they all have LN blades. The 606C was a sad soldier with a bad tote and a chip on the front of the cheek. It came to me from my buddy and fellow plane addict Steve Clardy. Thanks Steve!!!! I owe ya but I got a feeling you'll get even when I start on yours. :D I got new Cocobolo wood from Mike in Katy and machined the cheek and shortened the bed a bit to make it look better. I did the same sort of machining on the rear of the 607C as it was broken about the same way only on the opposite end. The 605C and 604C were pretty much pristine to start with but as usual I tore them apart and redid everything anyway.

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I did a bit of figuring and I have about $750 in the set including shipping, the LN blades and the new wood for the 606. Not too bad compared to LN. :D

I learned a ton and had a great time redoing them.

Thanks for looking,

t

Roy Wall
04-18-2005, 10:36 PM
Terry,

THose look terrific - the nice work continues!!!

That's pretty good - avg around $150 a plane, then you get some blades...and a little elbow grease...

Thanks for sharing!

Brian Buckley
04-18-2005, 10:38 PM
Dang Terry, the bug really has you. I fell down this slope about three years ago. It has been a fun slide.

Brian

Steve Clardy
04-18-2005, 10:47 PM
Here I am chasing you around the net drooling over those nice Bedrocks.
First class job!!!!!!
Steve

Terry Hatfield
04-18-2005, 11:12 PM
Brian,

Only about 6 months for me but I can't hold a candle to our buddy Steve!!! Now that's a guy in hand tool freefall!!! :D

t

Terry Hatfield
04-18-2005, 11:12 PM
Here I am chasing you around the net drooling over those nice Bedrocks.
First class job!!!!!!
Steve


LOL...that can't be to tough. I ain't that fast!!

See ya soon,

t

Bud Duffy
04-18-2005, 11:30 PM
Terry how do you get them so shiny , i have tried the electrolisis with my battery charger set on 40 amps and they just come out a dull grey/black after about 6 or 7 hours? Just wondering if there is somthing i am missing. And that is a real nice looking set there! Bud

Terry Hatfield
04-18-2005, 11:48 PM
Terry how do you get them so shiny , i have tried the electrolisis with my battery charger set on 40 amps and they just come out a dull grey/black after about 6 or 7 hours? Just wondering if there is somthing i am missing. And that is a real nice looking set there! Bud

Bud,

Thanks. Yes there is something you are missing...a 3M deburring wheel. I got mine here...

http://www.golfworks.com/item_disp.asp?pn=NYWF&bhcd2=1113881680

My good buddy John Dingman turned me onto those folks. Get the "fine" wheel. I run mine on my lathe and it does an amazing job of polishing the castings, blades, chipbreakers and even the screws.

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You could also put it on a bench grinder. I prefer the lathe because I can switch wheels really fast using the morse taper from my pen mandrel and I have more access to more of the wheel vs it being on a grinder. I also have sanding mops from Klingspor for doing the wood with the same 1/4" arbor as the 3M wheels so that I can use them the lathe also.

Here's a kind of before an after of a couple chip breakers.

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The difference is amazing and the wheels last a good long time. I can barely even tell mine is worn at all after many plane restos.

t

Bruce Branson
04-19-2005, 12:17 AM
They are outstanding Terry.They really look good.I want to try one of those wheels.Some people don't like it but for me a highly polished refurb makes the hard work worth it.

Jim Becker
04-19-2005, 8:25 AM
Having seen some of these planes up close and personal last week when I visited Terry, I can say they are BETTER than they look in the pictures!! Outstanding restorations.

Tyler Howell
04-19-2005, 8:39 AM
Real nice Terry, as always.:cool:

Jim DeLaney
04-19-2005, 9:06 AM
Bud,

Thanks. Yes there is something you are missing...a 3M deburring wheel...

Terry,
What's the black finish you're using? I seem to recall that it was some sort of automotive coating. Where did you get it?

I have about 70 (yes, seventy!) planes that need sprucing up, and like the way yours have turned out.

Brian Buckley
04-19-2005, 9:09 AM
Thanks Terry, I just ordered the 3M wheel. Even though I have not started restoreing planes yet, I will use it for many other things here in humid Houston.

Brian

Terry Hatfield
04-19-2005, 9:19 AM
Terry,
What's the black finish you're using? I seem to recall that it was some sort of automotive coating. Where did you get it?

I have about 70 (yes, seventy!) planes that need sprucing up, and like the way yours have turned out.

Jim,

I'm using Seymour MRO Industrial Coating. I buy it locally at a wholesale bolt and screw supplier. I am totally impressed with the results. It is a very high solid product that flows out very smooth and cures to a very tough surface. I pay $7 a can and one can will do many planes.

t

Scott Coffelt
04-19-2005, 11:02 AM
OK, no excuses, where are the rest of the siblings.... you know that #3 and #2? Come on, not that expensive these days for a Bedrock in the lower numbers...... just teasing you. They look very nice, and I can attest to the quality as I have a nice 4 1/2 from Terry.

Terry Hatfield
04-19-2005, 11:07 AM
OK, no excuses, where are the rest of the siblings.... you know that #3 and #2? Come on, not that expensive these days for a Bedrock in the lower numbers...... just teasing you. They look very nice, and I can attest to the quality as I have a nice 4 1/2 from Terry.

Scott,

Those pesky little ones are a little tougher to come by. I'd love to add a 603C but would have to mortgage the house to buy it if I could even find one let alone a 602C. There's no telling how much that would be!!!

t

Jim Young
04-19-2005, 11:42 AM
They look great Terry. All that time spent on restoring planes are you doing any woodworking, or better yet, any woodworking with the planes?

Steve Clardy
04-19-2005, 12:35 PM
Terry,
What's the black finish you're using? I seem to recall that it was some sort of automotive coating. Where did you get it?

I have about 70 (yes, seventy!) planes that need sprucing up, and like the way yours have turned out.

70 planes. So how big is your hangar Jim? :eek:

Sounds like we need a quarterly resto meet. Bunch of plane nuts getting together, and resto 500 planes during a long weekend.:rolleyes:;)

Scott Coffelt
04-19-2005, 2:07 PM
Terry,

I hear ya.

Still, I wouldn't bet against you having them some day. Buy and sell enough of the lowly Baileys (My poor man's collection I have going) and soon there is some extra dollars.

i am gonna have to order that 3M wheel. Pretty sweet.

Mike Scoggins
04-19-2005, 2:52 PM
Terry,

Very nice, again! You've got some nice planes there, and the sweat equity certainly makes them even sweeter. :)

A few questions for you: (1) What thickness LN blades are you using? (2a) Have you tried LN blades in the standard Stanley/Bailey (i.e. non-bedrocks)? (2b) If so, what thickness? (2c) If so, did they fit without any modification of the plane?

I don't have the bedrocks, but want to try a LN blade. I've read on Cian's web site that the LN 0.125" blade will work without any modifications to a standard Stanley/Bailey (at least on a 4 1/2). Just wondered if you've found the same?

Thanks...and beautiful refurbs!

Mike

Terry Hatfield
04-19-2005, 5:49 PM
Mike,

I think the after market blades are a significant improvement over the stock ones for a couple of reasons. The thicker blade is obviously stiffer and has more mass. The A2 steel keeps an edge many times longer. Not sharpening so often is nice and the extra bulk of the blade really reduces chatter.

The 604 has a .125 blade in it. The others have .095. They all fit with no modification. I honestly can tell no performance difference between the stock .125 LN blades and the .095 replacements. I have had both thickness LN blades in the regular Bailey's and they do improve them significantly as well.

The only draw back is that the thicker blade makes the adjustment knob farther back on the shaft. This can be a bit awkward in a #3 or #4 if it has the larger later model knob and you got a fat hand like me. It's not a problem with the smaller knobs of the early planes.

t

Terry Hatfield
04-19-2005, 5:50 PM
70 planes. So how big is your hangar Jim? :eek:

Sounds like we need a quarterly resto meet. Bunch of plane nuts getting together, and resto 500 planes during a long weekend.:rolleyes:;)


Oh Dude!!!!! 70??????? You need help. :D

t

Terry Hatfield
04-19-2005, 5:54 PM
They look great Terry. All that time spent on restoring planes are you doing any woodworking, or better yet, any woodworking with the planes?


Jim,

Not much woodworking has been going on unless you count refinishing knobs and totes. :D It's yard and garden season now and work has been brutally busy so probably not much of anything will be going on in the shop for a few months.

Oh well. That is the beauty of this hobby. It has so many different facets. I have had a great time messing with the planes. I build somethin' in the Fall.

t

John Miliunas
04-19-2005, 8:41 PM
Dang it, Terry! Color me GREEN! Nice additions there! :) I'll bet they cut and sound real sweet with those LN irons in them! Say, have you tried any with the new style chipbreaker in them, as well as the iron? According to LN, there is a performance improvement with the new one. Might be worth a try on something like the #4.:) Regardless, very nice job on the refurbs! You've given them a second life, I'd say.:cool:

Terry Hatfield
04-19-2005, 9:22 PM
John,

I have not tried the LN chipbreakers. I keep threatening to but then I'd just have to buy a bunch of them. :D

t

Jim DeLaney
04-19-2005, 9:35 PM
70 planes. So how big is your hangar Jim? :eek:

Sounds like we need a quarterly resto meet. Bunch of plane nuts getting together, and resto 500 planes during a long weekend.:rolleyes:;)

Steve,
I posted a picture a few weeks ago of a cabinet I recently built to store many of them. Counting spokeshaves, etc, there are about 60 or so in the picture, and this doesn't count the daily (or at least frequent) users I have on a rack just above my workbench.

See the old thread at: http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=16660&highlight=plane

Bruce Page
04-19-2005, 9:51 PM
I like those Bedrocks, if it wasn't for them I wouldn't have this very nice Stanley #5. ;)

Steve Clardy
04-19-2005, 10:07 PM
[QUOTE=Jim DeLaney]Steve,
I posted a picture a few weeks ago of a cabinet I recently built to store many of them. Counting spoleshaves, etc, there are about 60 or so in the picture, and this doesn't count the daily (or at least frequent) users I have on a rack just above my workbench.

See the old thread at: h (http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=16660&highlight=plane)
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=16660&highlight=plane (http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=16660&highlight=plane)[/QUOT


Nice rack Jim. Looks like you got a couple of overflows there on the left shelf.
I am hunting for more space somewhere here to store mine. Shop bathroom shelves are running over.:rolleyes: