Delta shaper question

[Tom Daniels]

I have a Delta 5 hp shaper model number 43-385. It was made somethime around '88-'91. It has a solid 1 inch spindle. I have gotten iall working with one problem. Where can I find cutters to fit it? I want to make v panel wall and ceiling but everything I am finding is for 3/4" arbor and this one was NOT made to swap out spindles like the new ones. Any ideas?
Tom

[Stephen Cherry]

freeborn has that in 1.25, which you could use with a bushing. Not cheap though.

[David Kumm]

Get bushings for 1.25 and 30 mm and you will be covered for any cutters you need. If the machine is stout enough larger diameter cutters are almost always better with a shaper. Dave

[Peter Quinn]

1 1/4" bore is your best and almost only option. You might find a corrugated back molding head in 1" bore, you could get knives made for that for any v paneling you desire. Its always better to use the native bore size than to use bushings, but with the one inch bore, not much choice. I see an odd 1 " cutter here and there on ebay, and you could certainly have a set made, but custom is $$$$$$$. Another option is the amana profile pro set, they make that in 1" bore and they have a number of knives for v paneling of different sizes in HSS.

[Stephen Cherry]

You might find a corrugated back molding head in 1" bore, you could get knives made for that for any v paneling you desire..

http://www.oellasawandtool.com/products/Titan-50mm-shaper-molder-corrugated-head-15-degree-hook-2-knife-1%22--.html

Dave could also set this up with knives

[Mel Fulks]

I've used some corg heads that are for one inch,can't remember who sold them.I would call Byrd Tool. A few places offer some aluminum corg heads,I would not buy one of those. They are not balanced and only work on low speed.

[david brum]

You can also buy a "Euro" cutter head which accepts HSS inserts for really reasonable prices. Then you have access to all kinds of inexpensive cutters. I think there are three diameters of cutter head available in 1" bore. I use one of these all the time. They generally leave a great finish.

(http://routerbitworld.com/Insert-Shaper-System-s/967.htm?searching=Y&sort=7&cat=967&show=10&page=9)http://routerbitworld.com/CMT-690-084-40mm-Profile-Knives-For-Insert-Shaper-p/cmt%20690.084.htm
http://routerbitworld.com/CMT-690-085-40mm-Profile-Knives-For-Insert-Shaper-p/cmt%20690.085.htm

http://routerbitworld.com/Aluminum-Cutterheads-s/1749.htm

[William Addison]

I have a corrugated head that I got from W. Moore Profiles that has a one inch bore. Another plus is that
they are some of the best people I have had the pleasure of dealing with.

[Rod Sheridan]

As indicated, buy 30mm and 1.25" sleeves for your spindle.

30mm is the most common small bore world wide, so it's often less expensive to buy 30mm cutters.

It's also the direction the world is heading so I buy 30mm bore cutter for my shaper..........The Euro block head is also a great way to go, I use mine frequently.......Rod.

[Peter Quinn]

It's also the direction the world is heading so .......Rod.

Maybe, but the pace is glacial. And the cost of retooling is high. The US is probably the last contry where 1 1/4" bore machines are still actively sold, and frankly nobody here wants to pay the replacement cost for all the shapers and tooling in use at any given time for the pleasure of adopting one random numbering system over another. So don't count 1 1/4" bore out in this lifetime. Maybe in a more progressive country, maybe in the next lifetime.

[Mel Fulks]

I have never liked the metric system but, they are still refining it .Centigrade is now Celcious, and they have thrown out some of the linear measuring pieces. A countertop that used to be 2 meters blah, blah; is now thousands of millimeters long. That might help the porn industry and be tiresome for others. Anyway when they get the system finished I will review it again.

[Jeff Duncan]

As the others have said you have to go to the larger 1-1/4" tooling. I would caution that you don't want to go too big or aggressive though. That machine, even with the bigger motor, is an entry level shaper. The bearings for your 1" are very likely the same as for the smaller 1/2" and 3/4" spindles.....ie. small! It's a good machine though and you can do a lot of work on it provided you take it easy;)

Metric tooling while starting to gain popularity here, is still in the minority by a large margin. Most catalogs you'll be looking at for consumer grade tooling will be in standard sizes. Most of the metric stuff I've seen so far is the VERY costly industrial tooling, which would be the equivalent of putting $6k worth of fancy rims and rubber band tires on your Chevy Impala....you can do it, but probably not the most practical investment:rolleyes:

good luck,

BTW Mel, what do you suppose the porn industry is measuring in millimeters????....ahhhh never mind:eek:

JeffD