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Derek Arita
09-22-2012, 2:48 PM
Anybody know where I can get a Front Guide Tube, front rail and back rail for my Powermatic PM2000? I have to use the saw in a smaller space. I'm having trouble finding the parts. I'd like to use Powermatic parts so that they bolt up without drilling.

John Lanciani
09-22-2012, 3:59 PM
Assuming you have a 50" setup now, just cut it down to what you need. 5 minutes with a good (high tension) hacksaw with a 24 tpi blade and you'll be in business. Cheap and easy, and you can worry about needing longer rails if that day ever comes instead of storing them forever.

Derek Arita
09-22-2012, 4:47 PM
Assuming you have a 50" setup now, just cut it down to what you need. 5 minutes with a good (high tension) hacksaw with a 24 tpi blade and you'll be in business. Cheap and easy, and you can worry about needing longer rails if that day ever comes instead of storing them forever.
I want to be able to use that setup if and when I get into a bigger space.

James Baker SD
09-22-2012, 5:05 PM
check your owner's manual for the shorter rails part numbers, then go to Walter Meier website (or Powermatic) and they have a parts locator tab. Click on that and it will ask you to enter the part number and it will show price and availability. Add it to your cart if you want it. I thought about doing the same thing with a PM-66 but the cost of the shorter rails was so high, I just lived with what I had.

James

Derek Arita
09-22-2012, 5:45 PM
I'm having a really tough time finding the part numbers for the 30" Front Guide Tube, Front Rail and Back Rail.

James Baker SD
09-22-2012, 6:15 PM
I agree, the numbers are not easy to find. My 66 manual only has numbers for the full 52" fence and the shorter left hand side fence for the excalibur sliding table. If I put that number into the part locator it says call for price and availability. Seems that is what you will have to do on Monday. Just for reference, 3 to 5 years ago when I wanted the short fence for the sliding table, it was $300 plus shipping for the 3 pieces.

John Fabre
09-22-2012, 6:42 PM
I have the front and rear rails made for the excalibur sliding table, never installed. They are shorter, but will need to be cut off to match your size. They came with my PM66/excalibur sliding table combo, don't have either one. Sold the saw and sliding table, if you are interested what about $100.00 plus shipping.

John Lifer
09-22-2012, 11:19 PM
I think that is part# you are looking for, but online pricing says call for availability and price.

Give them a call. My guess is at least $300, just bought 2 replacement casters for mine for $85

David Kumm
09-22-2012, 11:33 PM
Might be easier to find a used set on ebay or CL. Any of the Biesemeyer clones will work if you get the commercial versions. Dave

Derek Arita
09-22-2012, 11:47 PM
Would I more than likely have to drill new mounting holes to make them fit?

David Kumm
09-23-2012, 12:26 AM
Would I more than likely have to drill new mounting holes to make them fit?

Yes, but you have the old rails for a template. Dave

Kevin Presutti
09-23-2012, 9:50 AM
Lots of info out there on building your own Bies knockoff and as Dave said you have the old rails for the template. The steel used is all dimensional stuff you can get at any steel supplier. Just a thought, and I'm sure lots cheaper.

Dick Brown
09-23-2012, 10:43 AM
I am with Kevin on this. Go to any good steel supplier and they will cut to your specs. If you don't have the drills, taps and stuff to do the job, buy them with the money you save over buying pre-made and you will have them for the next job. Unless you get hit with a deal that just falls out of the sky, you will save a bunch. I just built a Bies clone and the 2x3x1/8" rail only cost $3.30 a foot cut to length. Don't remember the cost on the angle iron. Do remember the total was $60.+ for everything plus a few extra chunks for other projects. There is seldom any such thing as cheap and easy both. Want it cheap? Roll up your sleeves. If you make a boo boo, move over a half inch and try again. Even better than the $$ you save is you knowing "I did it myself"
Dick

Kent Wagner
09-23-2012, 10:41 PM
In similar situation with a PM 66. Now in smaller space (hopefully temporary) and not wanting to cut down the 52" rails. Both Grizzly and Amazon have the Delta Biesmeyer 30" front and rear rail set with guide tube (78-130) for $129.

Derek Arita
09-23-2012, 11:23 PM
In similar situation with a PM 66. Now in smaller space (hopefully temporary) and not wanting to cut down the 52" rails. Both Grizzly and Amazon have the Delta Biesmeyer 30" front and rear rail set with guide tube (78-130) for $129.
Kent, saw that and it's a good alternative. For about $100 more, I'm looking at the actual PM 30" rail set at Toolmarts.com, Powermatic 2653039Z PM 30 Inch Rip Rail Set for 66 & PM2000. It's drilled and has the right miter slot cutouts for our table saws. Looks good too. All I'd have to do is cut down my extension table. I will likely be using this setup for a few years, so it might be worth it for me.

John Fabre
09-25-2012, 4:26 PM
Tool Orbit has a set in stock for $166.00 in Ca.

Derek Arita
09-25-2012, 4:35 PM
Tool Orbit has a set in stock for $166.00 in Ca.
Just looked and for 2653039Z PM 30 Inch Rip Rail Set, price was $200.?

John Fabre
09-25-2012, 5:55 PM
http://www.toolorbit.com/image/Powermatic/Powermatic-2653045Z-lg.jpg



Powermatic 2653039Z Rail Assembly #64-Short

SKU: 662755518492













$166.99

QTy:


I wonder now if this is a different one, same PM model number though.

John Fabre
09-25-2012, 6:00 PM
That's not a PM2000 in the picture, looks like Powermatic's smaller saw.

Derek Arita
09-25-2012, 6:06 PM
John, you're absolutely right...same model #, should be the same. Wonder why the difference? I'll have to call PM tomorrow to find out. Thanks!

Derek Arita
09-26-2012, 10:55 AM
http://www.toolorbit.com/image/Powermatic/Powermatic-2653045Z-lg.jpg



Powermatic 2653039Z Rail Assembly #64-Short

SKU: 662755518492













$166.99

QTy:


I wonder now if this is a different one, same PM model number though.

Just called PM and found out that this website has it listed wrong. This rail set will not fit on the #64. The #64 rail set has a different tube set up. I'll alert him of the error.

John Fabre
09-26-2012, 1:50 PM
I called last night, a guy said that the webpage was a old one.