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Jack Diemer
05-03-2003, 12:00 AM
It's finished. I apologize that I didn't tidy up the shop before taking the pictures. I would be happy to answer any questions. I fired it up tonight for the 1st time, and it was a lot quieter than when it was a Jet DC-1200. That muffler must be doing the trick. Thanks to Bill Pentz and Terry Hatfield for all their support.

Now I just have to do all the 6 in piping. :(

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Dennis Peacock
05-03-2003, 1:22 AM
Looks really good Jack.....how did you come out on your filters? Are those Torit type filters?

Terry Hatfield
05-03-2003, 1:54 AM
Great job!!! Can't wait for you to get the ducts done so we can get a full report. Thanks for posting the pics.

Terry Hatfield

Jim Becker
05-03-2003, 9:43 AM
It makes very functional use of the space over your sump, too! <G>

Great job on the cyclone.

Mark Hulette
05-03-2003, 3:19 PM
I don't think you have enough plugs in the corner! Geesh- I don't know if I have that many outlets in my whole shop!!!:D

BTW- great looking cyclone. (I'll bet Terry's all swelled up with pride like a new papa! As well he should be)

Jack Diemer
05-03-2003, 4:46 PM
What's funny is that I had to cover a 220v outlet directly behind the filter stack that I will not be able to use.

What funny is what you don't see, I have four port 110 outlets spread throughout the rest of the shop. Power is a good thing :)

Dick Howard
05-03-2003, 5:29 PM
Hello Jack, Nice looking job on your cyclone. Do I understand right you used the blower from your jet DC1200? That is a 12" impeller isnt it. anxious to hear the stats and performance you get. Wife jus4t bought me a jet DC-1200C for my bday comming up. Havent used it under working conditions yet as Im still trying to get my shop set up. would like eventually to turn it into a cyclone.
Dick from Emmett, Idaho

Jack Diemer
05-03-2003, 7:47 PM
Terry has stats for his Grizzly 1029 on the dusteliminator.com website. They are not as good as the superfueled dragster blower he has on his other cyclone, but they are really good.

I am not 100% sure, but I think the Grizz is an 11.5 in impeller, whereas the Jet is a full 12 in. The stats may be better on my Jet version. If I can get Terry to drive to KC from Arkansas, we may get a chance to test it all out.

Terry Hatfield
05-03-2003, 9:09 PM
Jack,

The Griz impeller is 12".

Let me know when you get ready and I'll come and visit for a bit of testing.

Thanks,

Terry

Bill Pentz
05-03-2003, 10:15 PM
Atta boy Jack!

bill

Dennis Peacock
05-03-2003, 10:27 PM
Hey Terry,

Let me know ahead of time when you get ready to go to Jack's and test......I may can swing it to where I can ride up with you.

Jack Diemer
05-03-2003, 11:02 PM
Scott Coffelt is getting ansy, and has decided to put his 1.5 hp Delta DC motor/blower on his cyclone until he can get the PSI 14 in impeller motor/blower that is not yet available. We can test whatever setup he has available.

We will have to make a day out of it. You guys don't like good bar-b-que do ya?

Jay Albrandt
05-04-2003, 12:57 PM
Great Job on the whole set up Jack! I have been looking at the DE myself. I was wondering if you would mind answering some questions?

1. It looks like you mounted your old blower to the cyclone. Is the blower mounted to 2 layers of MDF, or is that "spacer" between the cyclone and the blower metal? Also, what did you use to transition from the bottom of the "spacer" to the top of the cyclone? It looks like there are rivets or screws, so I am assuming you used the template that came with the kit, routed a groove in ?something?, and then connected the cyclone to it? Am I way off?

2. How difficult was it to bend the flat kit pieces into the "round" cylinder and cone?

3. How did the soldering go? Was it difficult? What equipment did you use? Did you use a "professional" and if so, how much did it cost?

4. What is that at the bottom of the filters...a cleanout? I know Bill Pentz recommends two filters to reduce backpressure, but up until now I never considered STACKING them. You just saved me some valuable garage space! Nice Job!

5. What type of filters did you use, and what do you have between them so you can band clamp them together?

Thank you for posting the pictures! You just gave me some great ideas, and it puts me just one step closer to ordering one for myself.

Jay

Jim Becker
05-04-2003, 1:23 PM
Originally posted by Jay Albrandt
4. What is that at the bottom of the filters...a cleanout? I know Bill Pentz recommends two filters to reduce backpressure, but up until now I never considered STACKING them. You just saved me some valuable garage space!

Yes, a cleanout is a good idea at the bottom of the filter stack. Every once in a blue moon you can take some compressed air and blow through the filters to release any fine dust clinging to them and then attach a hose to the gate and blow it outside. (or use your your shop vac if that is not possible)

Stacking the filters does save floor space...just be sure you buy the filter cartridges with both ends open. Some of them have one end sealed.

Jack Diemer
05-04-2003, 9:01 PM
1. There is actually 3 layers of MDF. One is a donut shaped ring inside the actual cyclone. The second is the D shape (to mount to the wall) that I simply attached to the donut, and the third is also D shaped, and it attaches to the blower. The D is designed to overlap the cyclone an inch or so, so that you can put heavy duty shelf brackets under it.

2. Easy to do if you have patience. I did not have as much patients, and did not get my cone perfect. You just have to slow roll it and not get in a hurry. The cone was much harder than the cylinder. On the cylinder, I basically double wrapped the cylinder, and tied it up, and then it came out perfect.

3. The soldering was not as difficult as it was time consuming. I actually had better luck with the soldering iron than I did the torch. (for most people its the other way around). I felt I could control the solder better with the iron. Here is a dirt cheap place to get a high powered soldering irons, and they work great. http://www.mcgillsglass.com/solderingirons.asp

4. Its a cleanout made of two MDF donuts, couple of scraps for support, a little metal roofing flashing, and one 4" metal blast gate. Like Jim said, you need two Open-Open filters if you do a cleanout. Here is the cheapest place for filters.
http://www.wynnenv.com/torit_filters.htm

5. Those are the Torit .2 micron filters, I got them from wynnenv.com. A few months ago they were liquidating a bunch, so I got me a couple for $50ea. In between the filters is another MDF ring with a rabbit around where the seal goes. More MDF rings and a starter flange on top. Used a lot of MDF, and used my buddy spindle sander an aweful lot. (need to get me one of those some day)

In all honesty, I am very much a novice at all this stuff. I am a whole lot better at buying tools than I am at building things ;) , but it was a great learning experience, and I am very proud that I did it now that its done. I can't wait to get all that dust out of my shop!!