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Rick Potter
08-22-2012, 5:03 AM
Just got an e-mail offer from Woodcraft. A Festool flashlight for only $175 (no misplaced decimal there). So, who's gonna be first to grab one? This has to be a bit over the top, even for Festool.

Rick Potter

George Gyulatyan
08-22-2012, 6:33 AM
Does it come with dust collection port?

Rich Engelhardt
08-22-2012, 7:04 AM
This has to be a bit over the top, even for Festool.

Ever price really good flashlights?
A buck seventy five is on the low side - depending on the specs.

Mike Heidrick
08-22-2012, 7:40 AM
"I just bought the Flashlight CT36 Vac combo". :rolleyes: NOPE

Matt Meiser
08-22-2012, 8:55 AM
I've had mine since mid summer.

First, its not a "flashlight" its an LED work light you can set a number of different ways on its own--something you can't do with a flashlight. Its got a threaded base for attaching to a tripod or other camera mount. I bought a suction cup mount for video cameras for $30 that works great on a window or appliance. Its got a built-in battery pack with wall and car chargers, and you can slide most Festool drill battery packs on for even longer runtime. And its been out for a while.

I started looking at LED worklights doing my laundry and 1/2 bath. Any incandescent/halogen light heated up the rooms very quickly since they are so small. The price on the Festool isn't bad at all when you consider the features. The only other ones I could find to look at in person were $80-$100, made in China, with very mixed reviews. The $80 one was AC only which would have limited its uses. I've bought lights from the other company in the past and they were not what I'd consider to be high quality. Both were physically much larger but not as bright.

The flashlight for my Milwaukee M18 tools is nice, but its a flashlight. This is a worklight.

John Coloccia
08-22-2012, 9:05 AM
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/2082587/33045/dewalt-12v-max-led-light-model-dcl510-.aspx
And that's just a small flashlight with with no battery or charger.

And look here and see what a good LED flashlight costs.
http://www.lighthound.com/Flashlights_c_13.html

Why not read up on it, and watch the video. If I was a pro that had to work in dark conditions, I would be all over this and it would be a bargain.
http://www.festoolusa.com/products/cordless-drills/syslite-led-worklamp-kal-100-498568.html

Stephen Cherry
08-22-2012, 9:43 AM
looks pretty nice, and as Vince from the shamwow ad said, the Germans make good stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYvP_bCnS2I

John Shuk
08-22-2012, 2:50 PM
It looks pretty awesome from the video. I could really use that at work but @ $175 I won't ever bite. I tend to get by.

Andrew Pitonyak
08-22-2012, 3:26 PM
Does it come with dust collection port?

Well DUH, yeah! The suction spins a little turbine that powers the flash light and saves on battery power.

Rod Sheridan
08-22-2012, 8:03 PM
Well DUH, yeah! The suction spins a little turbine that powers the flash light and saves on battery power.

LOL, use a few hundred watts to spin a turbine to generate a couple of watts.................Very funny............Rod.

Jacob Reverb
08-22-2012, 8:21 PM
<Snikker.>
I'm holding out for the $5000 model.

Alan Schaffter
08-22-2012, 11:01 PM
175$ do they throw in a Kapex?

scott vroom
08-22-2012, 11:40 PM
Festool is rumored to be working on a fur-lined sink.

Jacob Reverb
08-23-2012, 7:25 AM
Festool http://d26ya5yqg8yyvs.cloudfront.net/lol8.gif

John Coloccia
08-23-2012, 8:33 AM
Personally, I find it unseemly to be bashing a company for making high end products. This thread is a perfect example of what's driving the race to the bottom. Thank heavens for a company like Festool that can ignore all of this nonsense and make professional tools...just like we used to have before the US consumer drove the market to disposable, Chinese garbage.

Stephen Cherry
08-23-2012, 9:12 AM
Personally, I find it unseemly to be bashing a company for making high end products. This thread is a perfect example of what's driving the race to the bottom. Thank heavens for a company like Festool that can ignore all of this nonsense and make professional tools...just like we used to have before the US consumer drove the market to disposable, Chinese garbage.

John, I wouldn't worry too much. Of course, there is a race to the bottom, but there is also a race to the top. People may be joking about the cost of this light, but I think it is something like- "No, I don't like Ruth's Chris, I prefer the Mcdonalds value menu". Nobody really prefers the value menu, but that's what fits in the budget, so live with it the best you can.

As far as quality tools- many people think that Craftsman mechanics tools are good quality. When I worked as a mechanic, I regularly broke their sockets. Then I spent a ridiculous amount of money and bought snap-on, which I still have today. Sometimes your work can lead you to a place where you need to buy the best tool available regardless of cost, and hope that it's good enough. I think that festool will sell it's lights to that sort of person.

John Coloccia
08-23-2012, 9:25 AM
John, I wouldn't worry too much. Of course, there is a race to the bottom, but there is also a race to the top. People may be joking about the cost of this light, but I think it is something like- "No, I don't like Ruth's Chris, I prefer the Mcdonalds value menu". Nobody really prefers the value menu, but that's what fits in the budget, so live with it the best you can.

As far as quality tools- many people think that Craftsman mechanics tools are good quality. When I worked as a mechanic, I regularly broke their sockets. Then I spent a ridiculous amount of money and bought snap-on, which I still have today. Sometimes your work can lead you to a place where you need to buy the best tool available regardless of cost, and hope that it's good enough. I think that festool will sell it's lights to that sort of person.

The thing is that it's NOT an expensive light. A decent LED flashlight will cost you $70 or $80. This thing puts out a ton of light, has a ton of well thought out features for positioning, is built like a brick and can run off line power, internal battery, a car charger or additional Festool batteries. Regardless, people jump on it immediately because they see the Festool name and they have a problem with the company. If this was a Dewalt or Milwaukee product, no one would dare say boo about it. It's just starting to get old.

Keith Hankins
08-23-2012, 10:10 AM
You make an excellent point. For me, I own quite a bit of green and they make fantastic tools. I'm a hobbyist that sells a piece or two every now and then, and I have to say, I grab the green before anything else. I also know snap-on. I remember my youth working in my brothers garage pumping gas and the snap-on guy coming around once every couple weeks and would go through my brothers toolbox (over 30k worth back then). If a socket or something looked damaged or in bad shape he'd pull it and put a new one in its place. I remember small wrench sets over a hundred bucks. But I also remember having a car up with a snap on socket on it and a breaker bar (pipe) and two of us putting all our weight on the bar to break a bolt loose. Whats the old saying you get what you pay for. I probably won't get the light because it does not fit an application I would need. I think for a pro on job sites it would be good.

Greg R Bradley
08-23-2012, 10:18 AM
It is priced appropriately although some Festool items are certainly overpriced.

IF you need this type of worklight, and you try one, I don't think anyone would think they made a mistake buying it. Festool has a 30 day no questions asked return policy. I would guess this light has one of the lowest return rates of any item.

I was working in an attic yesterday with another person using a Milwaukee worklight. After a short time he just turned his off.

Now if we could just get Makita to copy it for their LXT system...............

Alan Schaffter
08-23-2012, 10:25 AM
Gee a tough, touchy crowd. While some were serious, I think most comments were made in jest.

As to a work light, unless I can't get one in the space where I'm working, I much prefer a corded flourescent LED (heat) light

trevor adair
08-23-2012, 11:09 AM
If I ever find the need for a good LED light I will buy it, without hesitation.. I needed a good sander so I bought a Rotex, a good drill so I got a C-15, a mitre saw so I got the Kapex.. etc. etc. I buy the best tool that I can afford.. You only cry once with Festool..

Keep calm and carry on

Mike Henderson
08-23-2012, 11:19 AM
If you want a chance to win one of these lights, go to festoolsweepstakes.com. They're giving one away each week in August.

Mike

Craig Behnke
08-23-2012, 11:56 AM
some 1,000 lumen tactical/survival flashlights sell for $300. Nuts huh? If I won the lottery, I'd buy one.

Rick Potter
08-23-2012, 1:08 PM
Wow,

In an attempt to be humorous, somehow I seem to have stepped on a few toes. I apologize for starting this thread

Rick Potter

Will Rowland
08-23-2012, 1:41 PM
Actually, thanks for posting it! I recently picked up a cheap Craftsman LED work light, and, despite its many shortcomings, I have found it invaluable for working under old houses. As a Festool convert, I think I will actually buy this new light.

Kent A Bathurst
08-23-2012, 5:29 PM
The thing is that it's NOT an expensive light. A decent LED flashlight will cost you $70 or $80. This thing puts out a ton of light, has a ton of well thought out features for positioning, is built like a brick and can run off line power, internal battery, a car charger or additional Festool batteries. Regardless, people jump on it immediately because they see the Festool name and they have a problem with the company. If this was a Dewalt or Milwaukee product, no one would dare say boo about it. It's just starting to get old.

I'll be honest - my first thought was working through the details of a line about it's carrying case - since it is so small, it would be a Systainer Lite, eh? <insert rimshot here>

Then, I read John C's post, and decided that maybe I could click on a couple links before I smarted off.. I'm trying to do better, folks.

I gotta tell you - if I had other Green Dustless Battery-Powered tools, I would grab one in a heartbeat - the key being on-hand inventory of big batteries and a charger. That is not out of line for a performance tool, IMO. And I have no doubt it works every bit as well as advertised. Heaven knows how often I have wished I had one - my Makita light works great - but not nearly as good as that.

Plus - to reduce the cost, I could get two of them, and sell my set of car maintenance ramps <insert second rimshot here>.

Bottom line - John C - you ain't never come close to stupid in all of your posts that I have read. Carry on.

Regards,

Kent

Jerome Stanek
08-23-2012, 5:44 PM
I am I'm going to win one

Erik Christensen
08-23-2012, 6:00 PM
if it green... I gotta have it :D

John Coloccia
08-23-2012, 6:02 PM
Bottom line - John C - you ain't never come close to stupid in all of your posts that I have read. Carry on.


If only my mouth came with a backspace key...

Kevin W Johnson
08-23-2012, 11:01 PM
Actually, thanks for posting it! I recently picked up a cheap Craftsman LED work light, and, despite its many shortcomings, I have found it invaluable for working under old houses.

I have one of those too. For $15, any shortcomings are allowed. That light on a lithium ion battery, lasts hours, and hours, and hours. It was very welcomed during the big power outage we had recently.