Monster or Carter Hollowing Rig for 46-460

[Glenn Kramer]

Hi,

I am about to pull the trigger on a hollowing rig for my Delta 46-460. So I need some sage advice from those in the "know"!

After narrowing down my options to either a Monster standard size articulated rig or a Carter Hollow Roller I am not quite sure which is the best choice. This set-up will be used for hollow forms and deep bowls of about 8-12" in depth.

Well gents...what say yee?

Thanks in advance!!! Glenn

[Kathy Marshall]

Glenn, from what I have heard I don't believe either set will work for 8-12" deep hfs. Maybe some of the Monster and Hollow Roller owners will chime in with better info, but I think 7-8" would just about max out either one. To go 12" deep you'll probably need a captive system with beefier bars. I have the Jamieson standard system and I can go about 10" if I take much lighter cuts, but I still get some vibration. I believe you can get a Monster captive system with jumbo bars, but I don't know about the Carter system.

[Roger Chandler]

The monster articulated system will go 12" deep if you get the beefier 1" boring bar.....it comes with the 3/4". You need to find out if the full size will work okay with the Delta 46-460............I think John Keeton had one for his, but it might have been the midi size monster............

I have the full size monster rig, and had a big boring bar made for it............I can go 15" or a little deeper with it.......

[Prashun Patel]

I have the Monster and a 46-460. It's the fullsize model. Works fine. I agree that I wouldn't go deeper than 7-8" with the 3/4" stock bar.

[John Keeton]

Roger, I sent Glenn a PM. My articulated system was the regular size, but I did not get the 1" bar until I got the captive system. For what he is wanting, I would suggest the captive system unless Glenn can do both.

[Roger Chandler]

Roger, I sent Glenn a PM. My articulated system was the regular size, but I did not get the 1" bar until I got the captive system. For what he is wanting, I would suggest the captive system unless Glenn can do both.

I agree John........if one is going to do deep and large hollow forms mostly, then go with the captive system........my articulated monster has been beefed up a little from stock with that custom made boring bar, and my lathe has a longer distance between centers than most, so I can accommodate the 24" bar I had made up.........for someone with less bed length, the captive system will likely work better.

[Scott Hackler]

I have the Carter Hollow Roller and it is basically a captured system that pinches a boring bar (that is flattened on the bottom) inbetween two roller heads. It works for a bit deeper that normal pieces, but the shoulder of forms is impossible with the stock/straight 3/4" bar. They have started offering smaller bars, larger bars and I believe a swan neck. I don't won those new pieces. I did opt for the laser for mine and its a very nice laser set up. Price wise I think the Monster (with all it's different boring bars and cutters) might be a bit of a better bargain, but I believe the Carter will go deeper as a stock unit.

[Glenn Kramer]

Thanks,

Lots of sound and worthy information here. I spoke with Todd @ Monster this morning and placed my order. As I have a Kobra on my 3520B for deep hollowing I decided to go with the standard Monster Articulating Hollowing rig with the 1" bar. I also purchased the 3 piece scraper set (on sale) and a swan neck bar to get at the top inside corner.

Scott, your points are well take, I had my doubts about getting into the inside corner with the Carter rig.

I appreciate all of your advice and thanks again, Glenn

Todd said he would get it to my front door by the end of neck week which is excellent service.

[Mark Levitski]

Huh? Glenn, you got a Kobra on a 3520 and you wanna get another hollowing system? Wow, I woulda thought that one could use the Kobra for smaller stuff too. I am feeling more and more like a bare-boned shop. I have one lathe and one hollowing system -- the MOAAE system (my own arm and eye :)).

You gotta review on your Kobra?