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Arnold E Schnitzer
06-25-2012, 7:52 AM
My 20-or-so year old Freud 3 1/4 HP router bit the dust the other day. I'm looking to buy a reasonably-priced replacement that can handle some heavy work. Because of a special jig we occasionally use, the handles need to be removable. Unfortunately, that seems to rule out the Bosch. Any real-world experiences with DeWalt, Hitachi, Makita, etc. that you care to share? I've looked around in the obvious places but would love to get some recent user reviews. And I'd prefer to keep this purchase under $300. Many Thanks!

Ryan Wood
06-25-2012, 8:17 AM
I have the dewalt 2 hp plung router. It does a realy good job on all the routing I have used it for. One realy nice thing sbout it is that you can hook up a shop vac to it and it gets at least 60 percent of the dust so there is less cleanup needed when your done. The one thing with this router is that I read that it will not last long if you use it in a router table.

Curt Harms
06-25-2012, 8:22 AM
'Nuther Freud? I don't know if the bases are identical or not. $291+shipping

http://www.oakale.com/products/Freud-FT3000VCE-3%252d1%7B47%7D4%252dHorsepower-Variable-Speed-Plunge-Router-%252d%252d-4WP2OO000BLVLAZ99.html

Otherwise, Milwaukee has a large following.

scott spencer
06-25-2012, 8:54 AM
The newer Freud FT3000 is loaded with a full compliment of convenient topside features....definitely food for thought. I'd also add the Milwaukee 5625 to your short list....very well built router, but doesn't have as many topside convenience features as the FT3000.

Arnold E Schnitzer
06-25-2012, 1:33 PM
Anyone here using a Triton? I'll check out the Freud, too.

Greg Portland
06-25-2012, 4:44 PM
My 20-or-so year old Freud 3 1/4 HP router bit the dust the other day. I'm looking to buy a reasonably-priced replacement that can handle some heavy work. Because of a special jig we occasionally use, the handles need to be removable. Unfortunately, that seems to rule out the Bosch. Any real-world experiences with DeWalt, Hitachi, Makita, etc. that you care to share? I've looked around in the obvious places but would love to get some recent user reviews. And I'd prefer to keep this purchase under $300. Many Thanks!
I have the Hitachi M12V as well as the Dewalt 625.

The Hitachi has gone through some design changes (now called the M12V2) and it appears to now have some issues. IMO, I would avoid it.

The Dewalt comes with a dust collection hood (snaps into the base) that does a good job of collecting dust @ the source when paired w. a vacuum (it fits my Festool hose!). The plunge stopper nut is absolute garbage & slips when you don't want it to; replace that with a different depth-stop solution and you'll be happy. The handles unscrew from the unit but the router has two large wings cast into the motor housing... I'm not sure if this causes a problem with your jig. Amazon's pictures (http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW625-3-Horsepower-Variable-Electronic/dp/B000051WQW) clearly show the tabs.

Larry Browning
06-25-2012, 6:29 PM
Anyone here using a Triton? I'll check out the Freud, too.

I have the Triton TRA001. I have it mounted in my table. I haven't used it that much yet. But I don't think the handles are removable. They are an intricate part of the plunge mechanism. I used it hand held when building the table. It was well balanced and easy to control, even though it was HUGE! Some folks don't like the safety switch, but I find it nice.
For me it is a great router. I got it for $199 just before Christmas. I was surprised to see it listed for $289 now. I guess I got a bargain.

Thom Porterfield
06-25-2012, 10:29 PM
I have the smaller Triton (2 1/4 HP)--and I have the Bosch 1617EVS (also 2 1/4 HP). I bought the Bosch first, back when I didn't know diddly about routers, and mounted in the extension wing of my table saw. I've used it there, happily, several times. I bought the Triton to replace the Bosch in the table, primarily because of the Triton's design for changing bits and built-in table top height adjustment.

But, being lazy, I haven't made the switch. So the Triton is in service for hand-held use, and the Bosch is still under the table.

I like Triton's built-in plunge-ability, switch arrangement, etc. But it's a big fat machine (compared to the Bosch or a PC), and is awkward for some tasks. The 3 1/4 HP Triton (that Larry mentions) is even bigger.

Next on my list of shop improvements is a cabinet to enclose the router and provide bit storage, etc, so I will likely make the switch then.

The reviews of the Triton were glowing, back when I bought mine (like Larry, on sale), and after using it, I'm sold. Next time I win the lottery, I will consider buying the TRA001 for the table.

Pete Janke
06-26-2012, 1:42 AM
I have the Hitachi M12V2 in my table in a Woodpecker lift. It has been a horse. Bought it very cheap, $115, during an Amazon sale. I have not experienced any issues. One handle is removed in my installation. The other handle contains the speed selector.

Bill Huber
06-26-2012, 7:52 AM
My question is, did it bite the dust so bad that it can not be fixed?

A set of brushes or bearings are cheap but if you can't get parts for it then I guess I understand.

Larry Browning
06-26-2012, 12:36 PM
My question is, did it bite the dust so bad that it can not be fixed?

A set of brushes or bearings are cheap but if you can't get parts for it then I guess I understand.

+1 for this! If you are happy with the one you have and aren't looking for an excuse to replace it. I would do everything I could to get it fixed. If you don't know exactly what is wrong with it, you should take it to a repair shop and see if they could fix it. It is almost certain you could get it fixed for far less than the cost of a new router.

Jim Rimmer
06-26-2012, 12:43 PM
Anyone here using a Triton? I'll check out the Freud, too.

I bought a Triton to mount in my table because of the above table bit change and easy height adjust. I think it's the same one Larry bought (I'm at work so can't check). It's a little bulky for handheld use - weighs in at 13 lbs. Otherwise, I like it.

Kevin W Johnson
06-26-2012, 1:01 PM
My question is, did it bite the dust so bad that it can not be fixed?

A set of brushes or bearings are cheap but if you can't get parts for it then I guess I understand.

+2

I was going to ask the same question.

Arnold E Schnitzer
06-27-2012, 8:46 AM
I ended up buying a Hitachi at a very attractive price. I do also plan to try and repair the old router to keep as a spare. However, it was getting a bit loose in the trunnions and bearings. Thanks for all the comments, folks.

paul cottingham
06-27-2012, 10:08 AM
Anyone here using a Triton? I'll check out the Freud, too.
I have a triton in a router table. Works well, BUT I'm a mostly hand tool guy, so I don't use it enough to comment on reliability.

Kenny Marjerrison
06-27-2012, 3:22 PM
For anyone else that stumbles upon this thread I have a Milwaukee 5625 3.5 HP. The handles remove, I have it mounted in the router table built into my Griz table saw. Awesome router, its a beast plenty of power for raised panel, uses soft start and has a pretty decent variable speed setting. Its great for a router table, it also comes with a wrench to raise and lower the bit from the top (if your table allows for that). I am not sure how much I would use it handheld it is very heavy. But anyway, for anyone else reading I love my Milwaukee. Glad you got your dilemma sorted.

Curt Harms
06-28-2012, 6:31 AM
I ended up buying a Hitachi at a very attractive price. I do also plan to try and repair the old router to keep as a spare. However, it was getting a bit loose in the trunnions and bearings. Thanks for all the comments, folks.

I replaced the bottom bearing on my FT2000E. Factory bearing was shielded and was getting to feel like gravel in it. Figured a shielded bearing wasn't great in a router who lives inverted in a table. I splurged and replaced it with a sealed Fafnir. Replacement was pretty staight forward - the only sorta tricky part was holding the brushes retracted while reinserting the armature.

Larry Prem
06-28-2012, 7:42 PM
I run the large Bosch 1619EVS. It's a solid tool and does everything I need it to do. I have no doubt it will last a long time.
The handles are not removable, but the Bosch compares favorably to the current lineup of large routers.

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