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Jerry Thompson
06-07-2012, 11:02 AM
My little plastic pencil sharpen is dull. I am taking the little blade out to hone. How much micro-bevel is recommened?:)

Don Dorn
06-07-2012, 11:25 AM
You could do what Paul Sellers does and use a chisel.;)

Jim Neeley
06-07-2012, 12:07 PM
Or you could do as Rob Cosman has done in several episodes of his online video hand tool workshop and use a readily available hand plane to put a chisel tip on the pencil. In one episode, when that handy plane happened to be a L-N #8, he commented jokingly that it was his $475 pencil sharpener!! ;)

James Taglienti
06-07-2012, 12:18 PM
I think IBC has A2 Cryo replacement blades for your pencil sharpener. They are 50% thicker. I think theyre around 60 bucks. :D

Jim Belair
06-07-2012, 12:36 PM
I'm holding out for Rob's PM-V11 version. Should be right behind the chisels in the roll out.

Jim Koepke
06-07-2012, 12:41 PM
My little plastic pencil sharpen is dull. I am taking the little blade out to hone. How much micro-bevel is recommened?

I bought a DUX brass pencil sharpener back in the 1970s. It gets a lot of use. I also bought a replacement blade at the time. It hasn't needed it. The replacement went into another sharpener.

I did sharpen the blade once, without a micro bevel. Amazingly enough, in the past, people were able to get work done and sharpen pencils without a micro bevel.

jtk

Paul Saffold
06-07-2012, 12:46 PM
And he will probably offer a video too, to show the proper technique...

Jessica Pierce-LaRose
06-07-2012, 2:54 PM
Maybe next years miniature (http://www.leevalley.com/US/images/item/Woodworking/Planes/05p0210s2.jpg) from Lee Valley will be a tiny MKII honing jig so we can get that consistent microbevel . . .

Chris Vandiver
06-07-2012, 2:59 PM
My little plastic pencil sharpen is dull. I am taking the little blade out to hone. How much micro-bevel is recommened?:)

Depends on the lead hardness...

Jeff Wittrock
06-07-2012, 3:02 PM
I'd re-bed the thing for a york pitch.

Tony Joyce
06-07-2012, 3:18 PM
This one doesn't seem to require a micro bevel http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=68746&cat=1,42936,42452

James Taglienti
06-07-2012, 3:50 PM
I'd re-bed the thing for a york pitch.
Sweet!!!:D

Jessica Pierce-LaRose
06-07-2012, 4:02 PM
Where are you getting pencils made out of wood that needs york pitch?

Maybe there should be a proper bevel down pencil sharpener, so we can just move the chipbreaker closer.

Pat Barry
06-07-2012, 8:52 PM
OMG - this is a great question.

paul cottingham
06-07-2012, 9:21 PM
If you are going to go bevel up, make sure the bed of the sharpener holds the blade flat.

Derek Cohen
06-08-2012, 1:41 AM
My little plastic pencil sharpen is dull. I am taking the little blade out to hone. How much micro-bevel is recommened?:)

The answer is likely to be found in here: http://mhpbooks.com/books/how-to-sharpen-pencils/

http://mhpbooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/How-to-Sharpen-Pencils-320x336.jpg

Regards from Perth

Derek

harry hood
06-08-2012, 3:33 AM
This is an excellent book. Seriously. http://www.artisanalpencilsharpening.com/

Joel Goodman
06-08-2012, 10:59 AM
Is it an infill? Does it have a cap iron?

Bill White
06-08-2012, 11:19 AM
A BOOK on pencil sharpening? I guess that everybody has to be somewhere, but that one slid my feet.
Oh, I'm modifying my 5 1/2C for use on carpenter's pencils. Have to change the camber now.
Bill

James Taglienti
06-08-2012, 1:19 PM
This is an excellent book. Seriously. http://www.artisanalpencilsharpening.com/

Whats next?! A book solely devoted to sharpening planes and chisels?
oh... Wait...

Mark Dorman
06-08-2012, 2:14 PM
Rees has been running a small pencil-sharpening business out of his home in Beacon, New York. Clients send him fifteen dollars and a blunt pencil, which he then sharpens by hand before sending it back to them complete with bagged shavings and a signed certificate of sharpening. (If fifteen dollars a pop seems a little steep, here’s how Rees explained his prices in an interview (http://www.details.com/blogs/daily-details/2010/06/three-questions-for-david-rees-about-his-new-artisanal-pencil-sharpening-project.html) with Details magazine: “I’m sure there’s somebody in India who could sharpen your pencil for $8, but if you want authentic American craftsmanship … that’s how much quality costs these days.”)

This is hilarious!

Brian Kent
06-08-2012, 3:19 PM
I need a sharpener for my mechanical pencil.

Jim Koepke
06-08-2012, 3:37 PM
I need a sharpener for my mechanical pencil.

I have a few of these from my drafting days. My Staedler (sp?) pencils came with removable tops so they could be color coded for lead hardness. The original tops had sharpeners in them.

There is also one on my electric eraser. The switch died so it had to be taken apart and fixed. It wasn't made to be taken apart, but that never stops me.

jtk

Deane Allinson
06-08-2012, 5:17 PM
One of the finist tools I own is a Pentel P207 mechanical (7mm) pencil. Always works perfectly, never jams. I was given a Mont Blanc pencil many years ago that was no better than the inexpensive Pentel. I spend too much time sharpening other stuff.
Deane

daniel lane
06-08-2012, 5:36 PM
I need a sharpener for my mechanical pencil.

Try one of these, worked for me during my drafting days:

http://www.amazon.com/Staedtler-Rotary-Action-Pointer-502BKA6/dp/B002EL9J50



daniel

Tom Stenzel
06-08-2012, 9:40 PM
One of the finist tools I own is a Pentel P207 mechanical (7mm) pencil. Always works perfectly, never jams. I was given a Mont Blanc pencil many years ago that was no better than the inexpensive Pentel. I spend too much time sharpening other stuff.
Deane

+1 on the Pentel. I use the P209 (.9mm) myself.

In drafting class during my misspent youth we used sandpaper pad to point the mechanical pencils. Anyone else remember those?

-Tom Stenzel

Derek Cohen
06-08-2012, 11:38 PM
About a year ago I wrote this on pencils and sharpening: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/Anotsohumblepencil.html

Regards from Perth

Derek

Matt Hankins
06-09-2012, 6:30 AM
My little plastic pencil sharpen is dull.

Sounds like you need a bigger sharpener:
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Kent A Bathurst
06-09-2012, 7:24 AM
+1 on the Pentel. I use the P209 (.9mm) myself.

In drafting class during my misspent youth we used sandpaper pad to point the mechanical pencils. Anyone else remember those?

-Tom Stenzel

You bet I remember that.

Today, I buy a few dozen of these at a time, and let them populate the shop wherever they land. Quick rub on a piece of paper, or wood, or MDF, or whatever is handy makes a good point.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51f2FLdeBfL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

harry hood
06-09-2012, 11:15 PM
Of course. I still have my Ames lettering guide and eraser shield too. My daughter likes to draw with lettering guide.

daniel lane
06-10-2012, 1:20 AM
Ha! I still have a Leroy lettering set. :P

daniel lane
06-10-2012, 1:22 AM
+1 on the Pentel. I use the P209 (.9mm) myself.

In drafting class during my misspent youth we used sandpaper pad to point the mechanical pencils. Anyone else remember those?

-Tom Stenzel

P205 man here. As for sandpaper pads, wow, what a flashback! Yeah, I remember those...I liked the round lead sharpeners better, but I've gone through plenty of those pads. Thanks for the memory! :)


daniel

Jim Neeley
06-10-2012, 5:19 PM
P205 man here too, for work and shop and people I run into comment all of the time on how they use them too. I buy them by the dozen online myself.

I've been looking for a pen-turner who'd take on making a wooden body (ebony, teak, bloodwood) for me. I've talked to 3 or 4 but haven't yet found one who was up for the task since the tolerances around the collet are pretty tight.

There's a huge market of penmakers who compete selling (often) cheap pens. For the right pseudo-hobbiest penturner I'd see this as a potentially lucrative niche market (made to order) market since the co-workers I've talked to seemed willing to pay $60-$100 for one made from exotics. They've indicated it'd be a pencil that's uniquely theirs and a good conversation piece. Figure $5 for the pen parts and a couple bucks for the wood and there's a fair chunk of cash left to buy more tools and supplies!!

Jim

P.S. On the outside chance anyone here is interested, give me a PM. I'd provide the pencil so there's no upfront investment.

Jessica Pierce-LaRose
06-10-2012, 6:44 PM
Apparently there's a guy online who makes (or made) a "wooden P205" - interestingly enough, the link showed up when I was searching google for "p205 pencil" to confirm I was thinking of the right pencil. This (http://davesmechanicalpencils.blogspot.com/2008/09/wooden-p205.html) is the link that showed up on Google, with links to the turner's home page.

Man, I'd like a wooden version of my Staedtler clutch pencil and click eraser - get 'em to match my marking knife and that'd be handy.