Narrowest saw blade cut ?

[Lloyd James]

I would like to cut with a saw blade that gives the thinnest cut. I already have a Makita 7 ¼” Dia. with thinner teeth than my Freud blade with a 3/32 kerf. Both blades give me a .100 wide cut.
I don’t want to use a band saw because it leaves a rough surface.
I am making toy wooden wheels that look like earth moving tires. Each wheel is made with 3 glued
pieces. Outer pieces have 12 grooves. The wheels shown here were prototypes.( were smaller)
I will turn to a 1.62 Dia. and then mill the grooves with a trim router and a homemade fixture that sits on the ways of my lathe.

P.S. I might have to use a band saw anyway if I can’t get a clean cut with the shaft wrapped in
masking tape. I would like to get as many pieces of the groove parts on a 19 5/8” long
grooved shaft.
Thanks for any input.

[Jerrimy Snook]

About the narrowest off-the-shelf blade you will find is a 7-1/4" that will be 1/16" kerf. Matsushita has the MS71436CB (http://matsushitaamerica.com.p4.hostingprod.com/products.htm) that works very well. The Borgs may have a Freud D0724W (http://www.amazon.com/Freud-D0724W-7-1-Diamond-Out-Blade/dp/B0008EG5NY). Thinner blades are available but they are smaller diameters.

Jerrimy

[Erik France]

It's not exactly cheap, but there is a 10" micro kerf blade out now. It has a .053" kerf.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=22633&site=ROCKLER

[Van Huskey]

I was going to mention the micro-kerf that Erik did, if you don't want to spend that money AND a 7 1/4" blade has enough cut height that is indeed the way to go you just have to pour through the specs.

[george wilson]

I have one of those .053" kerf blades. $175.00? Something like that. I haven't used it since my Dewalt 1963 saw has a 3/4" arbor. It looks very nice,though. Has built in blade stabilizers. I believe it is hollow ground only down to about 1 1/2" cutting depth,so it's limited to cutting only to that depth. You should realize that before buying. It isn't for re sawing. Made in Wisconsin(or nearby).

[Michael Peet]

At work we have a saw with a blade kerf of a quarter millimeter. Yes, 0.25 mm. Of course, it's for cutting small glass parts... :D

Mike

[Sam Murdoch]

I read an article with photos a while back about carbide toothed bandsaw blades. Pricey, but the photo showed the wood surfaces after cutting to be impressively smooth. This was a review not an ad. I'll try to track down more info if you are interested.

Here is just one link of a different review:http://www.woodworking.org/WC/GArchive99/8_23mattband.html Cuts a 1/16" kerf :eek:

(The review I refer to was from a 2005 WoodenBoat article.)

[Ronald Blue]

Are you locked in to 7-1/4"? If not here is the thinnest blade. http://www.stockroomsupply.ca/shop/microkerf-blades.html?SID=35e699cb947cb08768b182ecae04ac5e However it's 10" only. Only .040 thick.

[Garrett Ellis]

Is a handsaw out of the question?

[Van Huskey]

I read an article with photos a while back about carbide toothed bandsaw blades. Pricey, but the photo showed the wood surfaces after cutting to be impressively smooth. This was a review not an ad. I'll try to track down more info if you are interested.

Here is just one link of a different review:http://www.woodworking.org/WC/GArchive99/8_23mattband.html Cuts a 1/16" kerf :eek:

(The review I refer to was from a 2005 WoodenBoat article.)

I am pretty sure Lenox doesn't make the Pro Master any more. The Tri Master is their current triple ship grind band, it has a kerf of about 1/16". The Laguna Resaw King has an even better finish IMO and has an even more narrow kerf at .041". There are other even thinner kerf BS blades some of them with pretty good finish but not the finish the crbide tips ones leave.

[Van Huskey]

Are you locked in to 7-1/4"? If not here is the thinnest blade. http://www.stockroomsupply.ca/shop/microkerf-blades.html?SID=35e699cb947cb08768b182ecae04ac5e However it's 10" only. Only .040 thick.


That is the same Micro Kerf blade discussed above, the 40 refers to the number of teeth and if you look some sites list it as .062 and some list it as .053 while apparently talking about the same blade so it apparently is 1/16 or slightly less.

[Ron Natalie]

Back in the day, while we'd use carbide table saw blades for most things, many of us would have a non carbide, hollow ground planer blade for really thin kerf times.
I miss having the "Sharp Rite" down the street where I could just throw my HSS (and carbide for that matter) stuff at and have them sharpened up for small $$.

But I agree, if you really want thin, a bandsaw might be a better idea.

[Lloyd James]

About the narrowest off-the-shelf blade you will find is a 7-1/4" that will be 1/16" kerf. Matsushita has the MS71436CB (http://matsushitaamerica.com.p4.hostingprod.com/products.htm) that works very well. The Borgs may have a Freud D0724W (http://www.amazon.com/Freud-D0724W-7-1-Diamond-Out-Blade/dp/B0008EG5NY). Thinner blades are available but they are smaller diameters.

Jerrimy

Everyone has given me some good products to look into. I would not be able to find as many ideas as Sawmill fellows could come up with.
If I start making more more Bobcats, I will have to buy one of these sawblades.
I use a band saw on my 1st try with the inexpensive hardwood that you get at homedepot and other hardware stores. Due to the rought surfaces
on both sides of the cut pieces, I had to hand sand using a long sanding pad, since the I lost my parallelism on a disc sander.

One of you mentioned band saw again. I did not look to see if there was a band saw blade with more TPI. :cool:
I do feel alot more comfortable cutting on a band saw when the dowel gets shorter.

Thanks again, you guys are great. ;) Lloyd

[Bill White]

"hollow ground planer blade....."
Dino that I am, I still have one. Sure works well, and wish I could find one with carbide.
Bill

[Michael Moscicki]

With cuts that small, I don't think anything will beat the scroll saw. It has the smallest blades around. That is if a new tool is in the budget.

[Ronald Blue]

I distinctly remember our friends from Stockroom Supply stating it was .040 at the St Louis woodworking show. In fact he stressed it but I see it listed at .053 on Rockler. Maybe in the cold north it shrinks. A dime is actually in the .040-.045 range.

[Van Huskey]

Just for reference the Stockroom Supply link lists it at .062", I am guessing they just got it mised up with the tooth count. The manufacturer's site list it at .062" also. Seems to be a lot of confusion around the kerf, my guess is it is .062. http://www.totalsawsolutions.com/

Anyone with one care to mic it?

[John Coloccia]

Well, I do have some experience with woodworking blades from .023" to about .040". It would terrify me to cut deeply into anything with a blade like this. They're usually called something like "slotting" saws. As they cut, especially deep cuts, they will heat up and warp....causing more heat, more warping and an all around unpleasant experience.

A Woodslicer bandsaw blade, from Highland, will leave a kerf of .022", and a smooth surface. There would be no point to sanding the inside surface, and the outside surface would clean up with minimal sanding. Of course, you always need to clamp round things before cutting them, especially on a bandsaw.

[Doug Colombo]

"hollow ground planer blade....."
Dino that I am, I still have one. Sure works well, and wish I could find one with carbide.
Bill
+1 - I have one too and it does work well - don't use it too often anymore, but still have it for sure !!

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Model #

D0760X



Diameter

7-1/4"



Machine Use

Circular Saw



Application

Ultra Fine-Finish



Teeth

60 ATB



Arbor

5/8"
(Diamond knockout arbor)



Kerf

.059"



Hook Angle

10°




I use one on my 12” Radial w/ stablizers tocut miters. It has a Hi ATB 30 degree. Cuts like a polished surface and cheaptoo. Note the 5/8 arbor!!

[george wilson]

Actually,I have the .040 Microkerf blade. It cuts a groove as thin as a dime. I was tired and not paying attention enough when I responded at first. It is a very nice blade,but I do have to bore it out for my 3/4" arbor.

IF you want a REALLY thin blade,Stewart McDonald(sp?) guitar making catalog has a .020" blade for sawing fret slots for guitar fingerboards. I don't recommend it for grooves deeper than 1/8". It is made out of a regular plywood blade(not carbide). It is left flat on 1 side and ground hollow on the other. I make my own,and hollow grind BOTH sides. I don't trust a 1 sided hollow grind to not want to drift in the cut.