Hole Drilling System

[Colin Giersberg]

While perusing the internet, I came across this. I just wish it was available in N. America.


http://www.lochness32.de/?q=home
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[Alan Bienlein]

Norm Abram used to drill shelf clip holes with a plunge router and a jig on the New Yankee Workshop. What's to stop you from making the same thing from some decent plywood and saving about $300?

[Jamie Buxton]

Geez, but that's complicated. Why have a plate to attach to the router? It is much simpler to use a template guide to register the router directly to the template. Less expensive, fewer parts to keep track of, faster to set up. For instance http://www.woodhaven.com/Woodhaven-783-Shelf-Pin-Jig/dp/B001NZ4QTC?ie=UTF8&id=Woodhaven%20783%20Shelf%20Pin%20Jig&field_product_site_launch_date_utc=-1y&field_availability=-1&field_browse=3026358011&searchSize=12&searchNodeID=3026358011&searchPage=2&refinementHistory=subjectbin%2Cprice&searchRank=salesrank

[Van Huskey]

Their prices aren't cheap, why not get the Festool system that does the same thing.

[Craig Michael]

Geez, but that's complicated. Why have a plate to attach to the router? It is much simpler to use a template guide to register the router directly to the template. Less expensive, fewer parts to keep track of, faster to set up. For instance http://www.woodhaven.com/Woodhaven-783-Shelf-Pin-Jig/dp/B001NZ4QTC?ie=UTF8&id=Woodhaven 783 Shelf Pin Jig&field_product_site_launch_date_utc=-1y&field_availability=-1&field_browse=3026358011&searchSize=12&searchNodeID=3026358011&searchPage=2&refinementHistory=subjectbin%2Cprice&searchRank=salesrank (http://www.woodhaven.com/Woodhaven-783-Shelf-Pin-Jig/dp/B001NZ4QTC?ie=UTF8&id=Woodhaven%20783%20Shelf%20Pin%20Jig&field_product_site_launch_date_utc=-1y&field_availability=-1&field_browse=3026358011&searchSize=12&searchNodeID=3026358011&searchPage=2&refinementHistory=subjectbin%2Cprice&searchRank=salesrank)

You beat me too it. There is zero point in having a base between the jig and the plunge router. It's like sitting in the drivers seat of a car which is not driving but is on top of a flat bed tow truck and that is driving down the street. Makes not point since you can just drive the care yourself.

What Alan mentioned is this jig. http://megproducts.com/shelfpinholes.html This is the one that Norm used and you can make one for yourself out of plywood, lexan/plexiglass, aluminum, etc. Works great and it's very quick to make perfectly clean holes.

[Zach Callum]

Unless you are a high production shop building frameless cabinets, you really won't benefit much from the 32mm system, and you certainly won't be using a jig and a router.

[johnny means]

Unless you are a high production shop building frameless cabinets, you really won't benefit much from the 32mm system, and you certainly won't be using a jig and a router.

I would have to disagree with that. If you take a good look at the 32mm system you will see that it simplifies and standardizes things for small shops as welll as high production shops. Most modern kitchen hardware is designed to fit into the 32mm system as well as most office hardware. Unless you are doing traditional type work odds are the 32mm would simplify your life at least a little.

[Gary Herrmann]

If you really want a jig for 32 mm systems, there's also the LV jig:

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=42200&cat=1,180,42311 I don't have one, but I suspect its up to snuff with other LV offerings.

As a side note, I do like the name of the German system. Loch is hole auf Deutsch. Nice play on Nessie. She'd be so proud.

[Zach Callum]

I did say that you won't benefit much, I could have said, you might benefit a little... Anyway, if you are making a living as a cabinetmaker, and want to utilize the 32mm system, you need to seriously consider a line boring machine at the very least.

[frank shic]

this is the one i prefer as it's drill driven which is much faster than a router and less noisy. furthermore you can line up both columns of holes diminishing the chance of errors boring and the jig is actually long enough to cover a typical panel without having to use registration pins.

http://jandrdrilljig.com/

[Greg Portland]

Here's my review of most of these jig systems for SMC: http://www.sawmillcreek.org/content.php?137-Shelf-Pin-Jigs-and-Methods

Summary: The Woodhaven Kurka was my favorite LR32 option (drawer slides + shelf pin holes). The WWA jig + router plunge bar option is by far the fastest for banging out shelf pin holes.

[frank shic]

VERY thorough review, greg. the woodhaven kurka looks even better than the J+R because of the middle column and the holes for the other hardware and you get a setup for EACH side woot! might have to ebay/craigslist my current one although the delta line drill wins hands down in terms of speed...