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Ruhi Arslan
02-28-2012, 2:40 PM
I've purchased a Dewalt RAS from a fellow Creeker. Don't know the model nubmer in case I would need to identify spare/replacement parts. One of the handles has "GP" on it. Motor label indicates that it is a 1HP, 12 Amp with 195 Frame. It is 10". SInce I don't have a serial number, I couldn't check it from various other site registries.

Any guesses? I intend to turn it into a restoration "project"; take it apart, clean it up and maybe even paint... Runs smooth, doesn;t have a break so it takes a while before the blade stops. Suggestions are welcomed of course. No, I will not give it to you to make it your "problem". :)

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Neil Brooks
02-28-2012, 2:51 PM
I can't be sure, but you COULD have a frame with an aftermarket motor from another model of DeWalt RAS :confused:

My advice: start here, (http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=252&tab=4) and see what you can figure.

The VintageMachinery/OWWM folks are among your best resources, here, as are the denizens of the Delphi DeWalt RAS forum site.

Good score. Good luck !

Myk Rian
02-28-2012, 3:18 PM
One of the handles has "GP" on it.
I think that answers it.
The GP was one of the better ones.

Dave Norris
02-28-2012, 8:04 PM
I also think it might be a GP arm with a different motor. I don't think the GP's had one hp motors or were 10 inch. Also looks like there is a color variation between the motor/carriage and the arm??

david brum
02-29-2012, 9:27 AM
I think you've got a GW-H (5/8" arbor) or GW2 (1" arbor) from the '40s. Those came stock with the 1hp motor and match the elevation/lock handle pattern of your saw. It's a beauty, for sure.

The motor bearings are usually original on these old saws. The classic symptom of dried out and otherwise worn bearings is that the blade will spin forever when you shut the saw off. Fresh bearings are pretty cheap and fairly easy to install if you're mechanical. New ones will stop the blade a lot faster, although it could still take most of a minute for the blade to coast down.

Thomas Hotchkin
02-29-2012, 12:42 PM
Ruhi
I'm with David, on the GW-H. Looks like a 5/8" arbor from your pictures. Lots of help on rebuild from OWWM and DELPHI Dewalt RAS form. Tom

Ruhi Arslan
02-29-2012, 8:15 PM
Thanks for the info. I think I am narrowing down to GW 3 or GW 4 by the looks of it. I found one registered GW 3 with identical motor with same frame model, size and SN# 206 H29 (http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=8238). Mine is 190 H29. Arbor is 5/8. I cannot seem to find GW-H to compare but the appearance of the frame, blade guard, handles are matching GW with the exception of mine has GP on the height crank handle. I found a few more stamped numbers but not sure if they mean anything.

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Roy Turbett
02-29-2012, 8:23 PM
Check out this thread at OWWM on Dewalt RAS

http://www.owwm.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=108482&start=0

david brum
03-01-2012, 1:25 AM
Here is a time line (not mine) which might shed some more light. It was done by one of the guys at the Dewalt forum.

Ruhi Arslan
03-04-2012, 10:47 AM
It appears like I've got a GW-3 or 4 with some GP replacement parts. Regardless, I started from the motor assembly to take it apart. Cleaned up pretty good, ruined the arbor side bearing while making an attempt to remove it to clean it properly. It needed replacement anyway but now I cannot put back together till I get the replacement. One of the wires to the switch was attached with a single strand, fixed that. A coat of dark gray with hammered look paint and done... At leaset for the motor assembly. Now I can move on to the rest.
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Myk Rian
03-04-2012, 3:22 PM
You have a good start getting the motor first.
I did my MBF with hammered copper. It's good paint.

Neil Brooks
03-04-2012, 10:38 PM
Whichever one, or ones, it actually is, you're off to a great start on the resto.

Spent the weekend with my brother, who bought, stripped down, and re-painted a 1959 DeWalt 925. He got it back together. We spent a bunch of time getting everything aligned in every conceivable axis.

Love my MBF. Love his 925. Been fighting the urge to get another one, but ... might be losing ;)

Keep posting progress pics, huh ? Love to see 'em.

Ruhi Arslan
03-05-2012, 9:50 PM
One more step forward. This was the easy part; just brush, clean and spray. Next, I will tackle the rest along with the table frame and the legs. I found the bearings locally, bit pricey but I can pick them up right away. It appears like there is some rust on some painted surfaces but I think the light is playing tricks.

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Neil Brooks
03-06-2012, 9:54 AM
How's the column, functionally ? Looks a bit discolored -- not unusual. Does it affect the smooth rotation, though, or not ?

Good progress !