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Jeff L Miller
02-02-2012, 11:47 AM
I posted this over on OWWM and thought some of the Neanderthal's would like it. Sorry if you've seen it already.

I have been admiring Wiktor Kuk's (wk fine tools) drill restorations for some time. Then I read Christopher Schwarz' article/review of his drill and just had to have one. Being a bottom feeder, I wasn't going to pay someone to do a restoration so here is my effort. The first shot is the drill completly disassembled on the bench.
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I used a lathe and wire wheel to polish all of the parts that I could. The black paint is industrial Rustoleum Gloss black and the red is their industrial red, off the shelf. I used various chucks and dowells to hold the parts as I buffed with 320 then 400 grit dry paper. I also used a gray 3M pad and steel wool. Here is the drill during assembly
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Another shot of the drill next to a similar #5 for color comparison. I used a red stain augmented with Transtint bright red dye to get close to the original Millers Falls red stain.

Here are some shots of the completed restoration. Thanks for looking and I can't seem to add anything below the last photo, user error I'm sure. Jeff
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Joe Bailey
02-02-2012, 12:12 PM
I can't imagine a Kuc restoration being any nicer than that!
Fantastic job.

Jim Koepke
02-02-2012, 1:20 PM
That does look purty.

I have thought of doing restorations on mine, but the work so well as is that other things get done instead.

jtk

Matthew Hills
02-02-2012, 7:09 PM
Nice work.

Am curious how tight the cap is at the top of the handle?
I don't have the lower knob on mine, tend to hold it by the top part, and sometimes find it unscrewing.

Matt

Archie England
02-02-2012, 7:31 PM
Super job!! So, would you like to do more?

george wilson
02-02-2012, 7:45 PM
That really is a fine restoration. Did you have to remove the nickel plating on the chuck ? Is it still plated?

After looking again,the old plating must have been long gone.

Jeff L Miller
02-02-2012, 8:33 PM
Matt, the top handle opening for the bit storage sits tight once its all the way on, I don't need to force it though. I havn't used this much but that side handle is a bit lower than center and I think it would be hard to hold the handle and use the drill at the same time, I need to practice.

Archie, I could be talked into it I suppose, send me a PM.

George, the early versions were nickel plated and this one had no signs of it. The body was cast iron and the metal parts were not plated, (I don't think they were at least). Wiktor shows a 1902 example that was plated throughout.

Thanks for the kind words, I love the old well made tools and bringing them back to good condition is a labor of love and relaxation for me.

Jeff

Jim Koepke
02-02-2012, 10:22 PM
Nice work.

Am curious how tight the cap is at the top of the handle?
I don't have the lower knob on mine, tend to hold it by the top part, and sometimes find it unscrewing.

Matt

I have two Millers Falls drills, one with the side knob and one without. I tend to use the one without most. The knob has some use, but not enough for me to buy or make one.

There was someone making and selling them at one time. The threading on mine seems to be a standard thread, so it shouldn't be difficult to come up with some kind of knob even if it wasn't an exact replacement.

jtk

Mike Holbrook
02-03-2012, 10:19 AM
Nice work Jeff,

I still have my black & red Rustoleum sitting on the shelf. Once I got my little collection of hand drills working I got busy trying to figure out & collect bits to use in them. I ended up with North Bros. 1545 & 1530 drills that were in good shape without new paint so I mostly use those at this point. One day I will get my Millers Falls drills painted up too. I did get fancy and paint my Miller's Falls Langdon 74C Mitre Box. I guess I am still trying to see the trees for the forest.

george wilson
02-03-2012, 10:36 AM
How did you get the rust out of the knurling on the chuck so thoroughly? It doesn't appear to have been "wire brushed" to death. Nice job.

Dave Lehnert
02-03-2012, 1:04 PM
Looks GREAT!

I would be interested to know how you removed and replaced the pins that hold the gears etc.. together. I could never figure out how to get my drill disassembled.

Jeff L Miller
02-03-2012, 1:20 PM
George, I used light pressure on the wheel and followed the angle of the knurling one way and then the other. Also a very light touch on the lathe with the 3M pad is all it took. I remember seeing somebodys first attempt at the wire wheel and it was awful. I use it sparingly because it just takes a second too long for a tool to get ruined. I also seem to buff off several layers of thumb skin each time I do it....user error again.

Rick, I pounded one way with a punch and got very little movement. When I used force on the other side of the pin, it came out easy. Upon closer examination, the pins have a taper to them and the large sides of the pins had small grooves at 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock. If you look closely at a pin while its still in place, you can see the quartered markings. Thats the big side and you need to pound on the other side or narrow end of the pin.

I rigged up a simple wooden brace system with a few blocks so I didn't put too much force on the body when I tapped the pins out. I also used Kroil and let them soak for a bit.

I've got one apart now and I pulled the top handle off of its mounting rod because the rod was stuck in the drill body (holds the top gear in place). No damage however and I got the rod out eventually but it was tight.

Thanks again for the kind words. I don't have any secrets and if my descriptions help someone elso restore one of these then it was worth it.

Jeff

John Gornall
02-05-2012, 12:12 PM
Well done Jeff. I'm doing a #2 right now and the one problem I have is staining the wood. The wood is beat up and scarred from use and I suspect the surface is burnished hard so it won't take stain. I have have put the pieces on the lathe and sanded down to smooth wood but when I put stain on it just rubs right off. Tried stain and dye and got no color. I may give up and turn some new wood. Is there a way to get the crank handle off?

Cleaning the steel parts it's good to use a small diameter, fine wire brush. The chuck on mine was not working but after dissassembly I found it completely full of sawdust - works like new now.

Jeff L Miller
02-05-2012, 12:37 PM
John, you may have gone too fine with the sand paper on the lathe. I would hit it with 150 or 220 and then try the stain. I used General Finishes cranberry red which is water based. Several coats and leave it on fairly thick. I also added a few drops of Transtint bright red to the stain cloth as I applied the cranberry red. Not a perfect match but close enough for me.

The crank handles appear to be pressed on and I have not found a way to remove them yet. I'm curious as to how to get one off without damaging it.

Show us the results of the #2, a great drill.

Jeff

McKay Sleight
02-05-2012, 5:08 PM
You have done a superb job. I do not find anything but frustration when it comes to making my own tools or re-furbishing them. I am certainly glad that there are folks like you that do such a good job and enjoy it.

John Gornall
02-05-2012, 9:09 PM
Jeff, back to the lathe and a courser paper - we'll see. I was using the same stain as you - but my handles may be a different wood.

Where the crank handle goes through the crank on mine there is a hint of threads. The crank pin may be threaded into the crank and then peened on the back side. Not sure if I'll try to get it apart.

The drill is a joy to use - only drill I use on the bench now.

jeff . whitaker
02-05-2012, 10:25 PM
Jeff,
What a great looking drill. You inspired me sir. I have my Fathers old Craftsman from the late 50's early 60's ?? At some point in time the whole thing had been covered in black brush painted enamel so.. after much cleaning I found the original colors under the enamel and .. well this is what I got.. new paint was what I had on hand.. close enough for me..
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jeff . whitaker
02-05-2012, 11:00 PM
BTW is there a resource for Craftsman drills, never seen any info on line. In the old days (in our family) Sears and Roebuck were the ONLY place to buy tools....I had tought that a fillister that I had was made by Record (a source in another forum) but now I am told it was Sargent?
Thanks
Jeff

Michael Fross
02-11-2012, 10:07 AM
I also seem to buff off several layers of thumb skin each time I do I've got one apart now and I pulled the top handle off of its mounting rod because the rod was stuck in the drill body (holds the top gear in place). No damage however and I got the rod out eventually but it was tight.


Hello Jeff. This is very timely as I'm 1/2 ways through a restore of my Millers Falls 05A drill. I, too, am pulled the handle off and the mounting rod is stuck in the base unit. How did you get yours off? I'm fearful of twisting it off with pliers as I don't want to dig the teeth into the rod. Any points would be useful.

Secondly, on one of the pinions, I think a previous owner had soldered or peened over one of the pins. I'm having a rough time trying to get that out. I think I'll get a wee file in there and see if I can take that off, but I'm also worried I'll mar up the frame if I do that. Oh well. I supposed the new paint will cover some of that and I can smooth out any nicks.

Thanks for this post. If I do 1/2 as well as you did I'll consider it a major success.

Michael

Jeff L Miller
02-11-2012, 8:16 PM
Michael, once the wooden handle came off the rod, I was left with the rod sticking out of the drill body. If thats what you have, then you might try what I did. First make sure there are no hidden pins, then I put the body of the drill in a vise and grabbed the end of the rod in a pair of vise grips and gave it some light back and forth action. There were raised lines (like knurling only less) on the end of the rod that went in the drill body to keep it tight in the hole. It should come out then you can remove that upper gear, it just falls out really.

To re-assemble, put the rod back in the drill first and make sure you line things up right, the pin holes are not centered so the matching part (that gets pinned) can only go on one way. To say that again, the rods are not drilled so the holes line up any which way, only one way will be right. Once the rod is back in, you can put the finished handle on. I'd love to see some pic's of the finished drill.

Jeff

Michael Fross
02-12-2012, 11:35 AM
Thanks for your advice Jeff. I was able to get everything apart by applying more force that I was initially comfortable with doing. I've got the main gear painted. My only challenge right now is to get the ball bearing out of the recess in the main frame. It appears to be quite stuck. Haven't figured out how to handle this yet (other than banging it upside down on some plywood :).) When that's done, I can prep the frame and get that painted. The handles are all done.

Again, thanks for the advice and inspiration.

Michael

Robert Kessler Leibold
09-07-2012, 4:36 AM
I find this thread most interesting as I just got the Millers Falls Hand Drill bug and have a No.1 in pieces in front of me as I type. I am extremely jealous of the fine work Jeff has put in to his restoration and wish there was a step-by-step tutorial showing each process.
I am interested in what kind of wire wheel and/if a Dremel was used, etc. I have all the paint off (used Easy Off oven cleaner), but my "shiny" parts are not too shiny right now!
I also need one jaw for the McCoy's Springless Chuck or another complete chuck.
Again, simply beautiful work Jeff.

Mike Brady
09-08-2012, 10:11 AM
Very nicely done restoration; better than new. I have done less extensive work on a series of of eggbeaters, from the very small versions to the larger two-speed breast drill. All but one were either Goodell Pratt or Millers Falls. I learn something from each one and I have discovered that chuck springs are pretty elusive critters when you need them. Of course the drill is almost useless without a good chuck. Some of the smaller drills have springless chucks, which eliminates that particular restoration hurdle. I am amazed that drills that clearly had hard use show very little wear when all of the crud and rust is finally removed. "Basket case" drills can be made to look and work like new. This is a real credit to their makers. Thank you for your great photos and accompanying description of the process.

Michael Fross
09-08-2012, 11:34 AM
Mike, I think you are being modest. I have seen several of your egg beater reconstructions (from Paul J.) and they are fantastically restored.

Michael

Robert Kessler Leibold
09-12-2012, 10:08 PM
I am in awe and bow down to the mighty one who brings the beauty back out of the beast! I wish I could look over your shoulder when you take on such a project and make a thing of beauty out of it. i know it's an older thread, but thanks for sharing.

Jeff L Miller
09-13-2012, 12:01 PM
Kessler, these drills are great idle time projects. I try not to hurry through the process and have had one sitting now for several months during my kitchen remodel. The qulality is superior and that makes a restoration worth the time, good bones and excellent raw materials. If you're ever in Portland, stop by and you can look over my shoulder; though you won't see anything fancy other than someone having a great time tinkering with tools.


Thanks again for the comments, maybe now I'll get re-started on the drill I have sitting in pieces on the bench.


Jeff