who has a CBN wheel on a baldor 8" grinder model 8100W?

[Martin Rock]

Hi all

I want to buy a baldor 8" grinder model 8100W and a CBN wheel.

I want to make sure they will fit before buying and having it shipped.

Anyone has this setup?

thanks

Martin

[Bob Bergstrom]

i would think d-way tools could tell you pretty quick.

[Martin Rock]

Bob, I talked to Dave at D-way. He sold some wheels to baldor owners but can't recall the model number.

[Bob Bergstrom]

Must have too much grinding dust in his head. I thought that would have been an easy one for them.

[Harvey Ghesser]

Martin,

I was able to find a photo of the mounted CBN wheels on my Baldor grinder. Hope this helps you.221252

[Richard Bell CA]

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?169467-CBN-mounting-on-grinder&p=1742566#post1742566

[Faust M. Ruggiero]

Harvey, Get some dirt on that grinder. It is sinfully pristine. :)

faust

[Martin Rock]

thanks everyone, getting closer to nirvana :o

Martin

[Reed Gray]

I have them on my Baldor grinders. I have an older one, maybe 6 to 7 years old, and a brand new one. They fit fine. I did have one problem, they fit fine on my old one, but would not fit on my new one, even though the original wheels that came with the grinders would interchange. I ended up just touching up the shaft with some emery cloth, and they fit fine. I was not able to totally remove the wheel housing. The inside piece does hold some bearing and/or spring things, and a seal, so I left it on. You do need the 3/4 inch bushings. Also, when mounting them, I used the washers that are on the Baldor for the part up against the motor. It fits onto a cotter pin that is pressed into the shaft. The only way I could see to remove the pin would to have ground it off, and I didn't want to do that. Besides, it makes a large washer surface to fit against the wheel, and I used the washer Dave sent to go against the outside. There are several threads showing through the nut when it is tight. You don't need the wheel housings with this wheel. Unlike the wheels that come with the grinder (instructions say to stand out of the way for a bit the first time you turn them on), the D Way wheels will never blow up. Collecting steel dust might become a problem. A magnet in a plastic bag would help.

Dave now has a heavier set of wheels just for the Baldor grinders. The no name 3/4 hp grinders might not be able to handle the weight. I just got mine. I don't notice any difference in how they cut, but there is less ringing/harmonic sound from the wheels.

If you are planning on using a Wolverine set up, you may have to modify the bottom because the dust portals on the back angle down so far. I heard of one turner who set the grinder up on a board at a tipped angle.

robo hippy

[Dan Kralemann]

I have them on my Baldor grinders. I have an older one, maybe 6 to 7 years old, and a brand new one. They fit fine. I did have one problem, they fit fine on my old one, but would not fit on my new one, even though the original wheels that came with the grinders would interchange. I ended up just touching up the shaft with some emery cloth, and they fit fine. I was not able to totally remove the wheel housing. The inside piece does hold some bearing and/or spring things, and a seal, so I left it on. You do need the 3/4 inch bushings. Also, when mounting them, I used the washers that are on the Baldor for the part up against the motor. It fits onto a cotter pin that is pressed into the shaft. The only way I could see to remove the pin would to have ground it off, and I didn't want to do that. Besides, it makes a large washer surface to fit against the wheel, and I used the washer Dave sent to go against the outside. There are several threads showing through the nut when it is tight. You don't need the wheel housings with this wheel. Unlike the wheels that come with the grinder (instructions say to stand out of the way for a bit the first time you turn them on), the D Way wheels will never blow up. Collecting steel dust might become a problem. A magnet in a plastic bag would help.

Dave now has a heavier set of wheels just for the Baldor grinders. The no name 3/4 hp grinders might not be able to handle the weight. I just got mine. I don't notice any difference in how they cut, but there is less ringing/harmonic sound from the wheels.

If you are planning on using a Wolverine set up, you may have to modify the bottom because the dust portals on the back angle down so far. I heard of one turner who set the grinder up on a board at a tipped angle.

robo hippy


When I got my 8100w, I found that the Wolverine Jig did not fit under the wheel guards because of the dust ports; I called Oneway. I was told to loosen the four through bolts (those going through the motor housing) which hold the wheel guards onto either side of the motor housing. With the bolts loose, I was able to slowly and alternately turn each wheel guard so that the dust ports were level with the mounting surface.

[Rick Bucker]

Hello,

I just purchased a gently used Baldor 8100W and the CBN wheels from D-Way. I want to take the guards off similar to the picture that was posted. It looks like I need to replace the inner guards on both sides with some sort of plate to keep the "innards" from the grinder from coming out or being exposed. Is this correct and if so, does anyone have any suggestions on how to do this? Do I need to have a plate made at a local machine shop?

Instead of placing a spacer under the grinder, it looks like I need to place some boards under the Wolverine base on both sides to get the suggested height to the center of the grinder shaft that Oneway recommends. Is this correct?

Thank you in advance for your suggestions.

[Reed Gray]

You don't have to remove the wheel guards, and can actually keep both of them on as the wheels will fit inside. I would guess the only reason to get a machine shop to make some thing special would be that you might be able to get rid of the dust port on the bottom. You might also want to get a machined bushing made to space out the wheel away from the motor housing, and to cover the cotter pin on the motor shaft. Stacked washers from the big box stores don't work because they are very sloppy. I did get some washers made, 5/8 thick, 1 1/2 diameter, and 3/4 inch plus a hair for the motor shaft. I cut a slot to fit over the cotter pin with a jig saw. Fitting the Wolverine jig under it is problematic. Not sure how that is done. I just use platforms.

robo hippy

[steve worcester]

Hello,

I just purchased a gently used Baldor 8100W and the CBN wheels from D-Way. I want to take the guards off similar to the picture that was posted. It looks like I need to replace the inner guards on both sides with some sort of plate to keep the "innards" from the grinder from coming out or being exposed. Is this correct and if so, does anyone have any suggestions on how to do this? Do I need to have a plate made at a local machine shop?

Instead of placing a spacer under the grinder, it looks like I need to place some boards under the Wolverine base on both sides to get the suggested height to the center of the grinder shaft that Oneway recommends. Is this correct?

Thank you in advance for your suggestions.

I have a board about 1 3/8" under the Oneway bases. I use the Baldor (8100W) with the guards and CBN wheels. Had to put 3 thick washers on the inside to space the wheels out to fit in the guards, and rotate them also. But mine wanted to be wacked with a mallet to move. The Oneway platforms fit just perfect without raising the grinder.

[Reed Gray]

Now I remember who put the Wolverine under their Baldor..... Steve, could you post a picture? I couldn't get my wheel guards to rotate, unless it was 1/4 turn. I have my grinding platforms up on 2 pieces of 3/4 inch baltic birch plywood to get them to center height.

robo hippy

[steve worcester]

You can't take the guards off, unless you have something else machined to keep the washers and bearings intact.
But, you can put 2-3 thick washers on the insides of the wheels to space the out and keep the guards on. They don't get in the way. You may have to loosen up the 4 bolts on the inside and rotate the guards to get your jig hardware underneath though.

[Rick Bucker]

I had an 8" Baldor Grider model 8100 that I wanted to use with my Wolverine sharpening jig and wanted to remove the protective shield. The inside casting had to be cut back in order to install the Wolverine Jig. Some people were apparently able to do this and others not able to do it. I ended up selling the Baldor grinder for close to what I paid for it.

Rick

[Reed Gray]

I only use platforms to sharpen, so didn't have to worry about fitting the Wolverine underneath the dust collection hose on the bottom of the wheel guard. I have heard of some tipping the grinder forward, and then installing the Wolverine platform level. Never saw pictures, but I can see how it can be done. I figure my Baldor grinders will out live me. They are really god machines. The 1 hp Rikon does make an adequate substitute, but the Baldor is still far better.

robo hippy

[Richard Coers]

thanks everyone, getting closer to nirvana :o

Martin
Laughing pretty hard. If a CBN is nirvana, you have nice and low expectations! Which of course is the path to a happy life. Having a CBN wheel saves all of 30 seconds of abrasive wheel cleaning once and a while.

[Reed Gray]

I switched to CBN after going through a standard grinding wheel in about 6 months. I was a production turner. Compare that time to 5 or more years with a CBN wheel. Add to that, they come spin and bubble balanced, so there is no run out in the wheel at all. They will never break up, While you may save 30 seconds cleaning 'once in a while', that adds up over years. The only draw back is the price. They are by far the best grinding wheels out there. At the very least, they are the best 'value' buy. If you have ever used them, then you will know why they are so popular.

robo hippy