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Rich Noterman
12-28-2011, 9:42 AM
Goodmorning turners,

I received money for Christmas and going to buy a new lathe ( Jet or Grizzly) full size Wanted to know what would be the best chuck to start with? I want to do small bowls and plates, I have been looking at the Nova chucks but they have about 5 or 6 of them. If you guys were to buy just one, what chuck would it be, and why? Also help me out the the jaws.

thanks again for your help
Rich

Roger Chandler
12-28-2011, 10:00 AM
For a large lathe the correct one is the SuperNova2............a G3 can be used, however, they are limited in the size turning recommended by the manufacturer. Make sure you get the correct insert..........for a lathe like the Jet 1642 evs or the Grizzly 0632 or the 0733 which is the newer version of the G0698 you will need a 1.25 x8 tpi insert. All the jaws are interchangable with the nova chucks.

John Keeton
12-28-2011, 10:05 AM
One slight corollary to Roger's post - the Power Grip jaws should not be used on the G3 - though they will fit. They are recommended only for the SN2 and the Titan.

I have four SN2 chucks, one G3, and an original Nova. I would suggest the SN2, and you might want to check the refurbished availability at Teknatool. They usually have the SN2 at a good savings.

Greg Just
12-28-2011, 10:13 AM
I would recommend the SN2, especially because the jaws are interchangeable.

Jim Burr
12-28-2011, 11:13 AM
I'm a Baracuda guy...comes with the worm screw and 4 sets of jaws all in a nice case.

Ralph Lindberg
12-28-2011, 11:28 AM
I was just checking the Teknatool USA refurb and they have the SN2 for $99. Today (Wed) only Craftsupplies has almost everything on sale (15% off), including chucks (but still more then a refurb)

Justin Stephen
12-28-2011, 11:38 AM
Just gonna throw this out here.

I have owned an SN2 for a long time and about nine months ago picked up a Oneway Talon. I virtually never use the SN2 anymore as the Talon is, in my opinion, a much better chuck out of the box in terms of ease of use and its ability to maintain a reliable grip on a project. And the regular price difference between the two is only in the neighborhood of $20.

Alan Trout
12-28-2011, 11:56 AM
I have Nova and Oneway chucks both, and I have never had a single problem with any of them. They all grip fine as long as you use the appropriate tenon or recess for the appropriate jaws and size of the piece. The SN2 refurb or the G3 refurb chucks are a heck of a deal when you are on a budget and either will do 99+% what you want to do.

Alan

Dan Forman
12-28-2011, 1:57 PM
Another vote for a Talon here, I had a Nova SN2 (sold it), a couple of Vicmarks, but always go for the OneWays, mainly for the serrated, non-dovetail jaws. Easier to turn tenons or recesses for, and they just grip better than any of the others. Oneway also has the best design for their smaller step jaws than do the other brands in my opinion.

Dan

Roger Chandler
12-28-2011, 3:52 PM
I think the correct jaws for the job is very important. The power grip Jaws on the SN2 have serrations and I find it difficult to see how any better grip could be had............I have used them with large pieces and never had one slip, although I have had two tenons break............the wood sometimes will not cooperate, but the power grip jaws are powerful and hold very well.

John Keeton
12-28-2011, 3:57 PM
Referencing Dan's comment on tenons/recesses being easier for the Talon, the tenon for the Nova should NOT be a dovetail - just a 90* tenon. The recess, however, should be dovetailed. Most folks feel the dovetail jaws on the Nova require a dovetailed tenon, and that is clearly not their intent per the instructions.

Richard Jones
12-28-2011, 4:38 PM
Ditto to what Mr. K said. I also have a reconditioned/refurbished SN2 on the way, will let all know how it is when it arrives.

Rich

Justin Stephen
12-28-2011, 4:59 PM
I think the correct jaws for the job is very important. The power grip Jaws on the SN2 have serrations and I find it difficult to see how any better grip could be had............I have used them with large pieces and never had one slip, although I have had two tenons break............the wood sometimes will not cooperate, but the power grip jaws are powerful and hold very well.

The standard jaws that come with each chuck are very likely one part of why I prefer the Talon. The #2 profiled jaws that come with the Talon are far superior than the smooth #2 jaws that come with the SN2 in terms of reliable grip for what most of us probably use #2 jaws for, gripping the outside of a tenon that will be partially or completely removed when the piece is finished. No doubt the Nova power jaws are quite good in the same regard, but those are an additional expense. Granted, either chuck can be purchased without jaws and the savings applied to whatever specific jaws the purchaser desires, but the default #2 jaws on the Talon are just awesome.

I also strongly prefer the tightening tool for the Talon to the SN2 and find it easier to tighten and loosen the jaws with one hand while at the same time getting a sure, centered fit on the piece. The more open design of the Talon also makes it easier to clean out and maintain and frankly it requires less maintenance for me so far. The Talon is also substantially lighter than the SN2, which is not critical but is nice. I also found fitting the threaded insert into my SN2 to be a surprisingly finicky process to get the chuck to run 100% true. I had no such troubles with the Talon, although my experience in that regard may have been an isolated one.

allen thunem
12-28-2011, 5:36 PM
hey richard did you have to order an insert separately for the refurbished sn2?

Richard Jones
12-28-2011, 5:52 PM
hey richard did you have to order an insert separately for the refurbished sn2?

Allen,

It doesn't come with one, but I already had a spare. They are 19.99 on the Nova site, plus shipping, which for my chuck, was about $8. I thought that was pretty good.

Rich

Richard Allen
12-28-2011, 6:57 PM
I like the Oneway line of chucks and jaws. A oneway stronghold chuck is a beast that has a terrific grip over a wide range of tenon sizes. The profile jaw design of the oneway jaws is excellent at holding wood over the full range of the jaw opening.

Please note that Oneway talon jaws can be used on nova chucks. The is a pin in which goes through one of the jaws. This pin is used as a "safety" device which limits the range of opening that the jaws can make when attached to a oneway chuck. That pin gets in the way on a nova chuck. You can early drive the pin out or shear it off and the jaws will mount on the nova line of chucks. Please note that the Oneway stronghold jaws will NOT work on nova chucks.

This is to say that you can buy a SN2 chuck body and Oneway original #2 jaws and have the best of both the Nova line and the Oneway line.

Harry Robinette
12-28-2011, 8:31 PM
I have 3 SN ,2 SN2,an Original and a Titan Nova chucks. I have used SN and SN2 with my Vega 2600 turning 20+" bowls NEVER had a Nova come loose.I now use my Titan mostly on the big lathe. I also use SN and SN2 on my 18" General and have never had one come loose. I coming up on 14Years using my Nova chucks with no trouble if there used right and I don't have to crush the wood fibers with serrated jaws.
MY vote is go NOVA, Oh ya there also less expensive to buy and to add on to.