My new aqusition: The 1929 Oliver 88D Table saw with slider & consentric wheel

[Brian Weick]

I have been corresponding with the owner of this 1929 Oliver 88D Concentric wheels adjustment and the sliding table. When I got there to look her over I was impressed with the excellent condition of the table and the functions. She's going to get the bath, as soon as I finish the 1927 American 16"buzz jointer and the 1934 117A band saw.

Just glad to get her home, Dave was a decent guy, had a 24" Porter jointer, 36" American WWM bandsaw and a 36" Tannawitz , also bunch of other machinery. He hated to let her go and I could tell but he is trying to get some funds together for a patent device... what it is... he couldn't say. I promised to stay in touch with him and also the updates of the 88 restoration when ever I get to her...

She's a beauty and a beast.... weighs in at a little over a ton......just glad it's over and in my garage resting untill I can get to the restoration.... working on an American 16" #1 "Buzz" jointer.....

These are the original pictures taken by the owner (Dave) of the 88D

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[Brian Weick]

some more pictures...


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[Brian Weick]

The Trip To PA.... and back in Bufffalo.....


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[Brian Weick]

some more...




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[Brian Weick]

More pics of the trip back home...


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[Brian Weick]

Last pictures of the Oliver 88D in the back of the F-250 and resting in my garage......


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[Jeff Monson]

Wow Brian, that is an impressive piece of equipment!! Very nice condition also. What is the HP and phase of the saw? Is the slider smooth and tight fitting? Hard to imagine a quality slider that was made that long ago!!!

[Bruce Page]

Congrats Brian, that is a beast. You must have a strong concrete pad to support all that iron!

[Gary Herrmann]

Nice score, Brian. It doesn't look like it's missing anything. You seem to be about due for a video shop tour, I'm thinkin.

[David Kumm]

Brian, Great old saw. When you can still see the planer marks on the table it has been loved and not abused. Those old machines had so much adjustability built into them I'm sure you can get the table as exact as a new Felder. Oliver saws are the pick of the litter along with Tanny and a few others. 1929 will be ball bearings and a huge 5 hp motor. Looks like you got the fence and miter gauge that sell separately for as much as the saw. People who have used the center mounted fences swear by them. Moving the table sideways to allow for dados up to about 2" wide is pretty cool too. Contact Rich Fink and you can get the original manual for the machine as well as a copy of the original sale invoice. Probably sold for a few hundred back then. Dave

[Thomas Hotchkin]

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Great Old Iron. I used a Oliver dual blade TS in collage (WWII surplus) great saw. How difficult is the fence to reposition and adjust on your new Oliver? Tom

[Brian Weick]

Thanks guys...
It is a 5hp/3ph 220V original motor....
My shop floor is not concrete, framed "beefy",and it's solid, it better be, there will be a little over 14,000 lbs of Arn in my shop..after the 88 is restored and planted on the shop floor,the 88 weighs in at 2,183 lbs
I know all about Rich F....thanks........
The saw you are referring to with the dual arbors is a 260D... I was so close to getting a "full" 260 but because of distance lost it over $100.00, Bill Kerfoot...the machine man swooped her ,,, it's all good.... things happen for a reason and this 88D is an extremely rare Oliver model... they only made them for 2 - 3 years... very narrow production window.

I am an Oliver (older -original Oliver) fanatic.... they were and still are considered the Cadillac of WW equipment. There is nothing that needs adjustment on her tried her out when I got there to pick her up. The slider is as smooth as a ball bearing bathed in oil, 1 finger.... she really is a dream saw....IMPO....

When I get around to the restoration I will have a vast amount of pictures and I will throw them up here....it's going to be a while... working on the American 16" jointer , when I get the chance....LOL work comes first.

Thanks gents....

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[Brian Weick]

I was doing some research on my Oliver 88D and found this while perusing the net:

http://www.irsauctions.com/index_lots.asp?pg=details&id=12180&flash=0


Now I know the third owner of this saw- Durawood Products Inc. Denver,PA.... I am going to give a them a call and see where they bought it from, I am trying to get as much information about her as possible.



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[Rod Sheridan]

? Hard to imagine a quality slider that was made that long ago!!!

Wilhelm Altendorf invented the slider in 1906, they're a lot older than most people expect..............Rod.

[Jeff Monson]

Wilhelm Altendorf invented the slider in 1906, they're a lot older than most people expect..............Rod.

Good to know Rod, I'd have NEVER guessed a sliding table saw to be over 100 years old.

[Van Huskey]

Gorgeous Arn. I looked at a bunch of old arn this weekend and have my eye on a piece, just have to do some reading in the "dirty paper" to see if it is something I want to tackle.

[David Kumm]

Gorgeous Arn. I looked at a bunch of old arn this weekend and have my eye on a piece, just have to do some reading in the "dirty paper" to see if it is something I want to tackle.

It certainly is addictive to pick up something you could never justify or afford for pennies on the dollar and with a little work turn it into something that gives you the " warm and fuzzies" everytime you use it. Dave

[Jim Andrew]

That saw looks like it hardly needs any restoration. When in college, the Industrial Arts Dept at FHSU had a Oliver with that fence. They also had a Powermatic, and nobody wanted to use the Powermatic. The professor actually ordered a new table for the PM, because he couldn't get the fence to line up, thought the table was flawed. After he changed it out, was just the same.

[joe milana]

Enjoyed the bandsaw restoration thread, and looking forward to this one.

[Brian Weick]

The 88 is going to be somewhat easier than the Moak 32. I had so much fabrication with that Moak....but it is coming out pretty good...


The 88 is going to be restored after I finish the American #16" "Buzz" jointer.....I don't have that thread started yet, lots of pictures and I have it all torn apart, body work is completed, and some of the parts have been cleaned and polished....it is next on the shop floor for the restoration....then the Oliver 117A band saw, and the 88 will be last...and finally the Oliver 20c is getting the new green that's on the Moak- all the equipment is getting the green.

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[Brian Weick]

Well,
She is almost completed, pictures later on today.....I still have to fab the VFD box and controller , and some minor things but all in all I am very happy with the outcome.....I did do some minor fabrications, 2 of which still need to be completed......

This was a lot easier compared to the 1942 MOAK.....that involved an incredible amount of design and fabrication which is very time consuming. I was gad the 88D did not need much as far as that goes....



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[Brian Weick]

Well, http://fototime.com/99CB340AC2B6105/orig.gif

Here is what I have so far,

Fabricated dust plenum, re-engineered lock mech for the slider, re-engineered crank out for the sliding frame table,fabricated micro gage and miter strip bar, and then the last (which is not pictured) is the control panel/box for the Yaskawa VFD drive...
the blade dust plenum i fabricated from 11ga steel - it work great and no dust.....here is some video on how it works...:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0dk8uX7eE0&feature=youtu.be
tapped the main body for the threaded shaft to crank out the sliding table new OLDER handle, fabricated the lock assembly for the slider,

only item left is the control panel/box and clean the tables and then seal them along with buffing the paint and sealing the tables....



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[Brian Weick]

Here are the remaining pictures....http://fototime.com/99CB340AC2B6105/orig.gif



More coming when she is completed...


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[Brian Weick]

I was talking to a member here and I never got around to uploading the final shots of the 88D....I'll be doing that later today or tomarrow....


Pics coming Zayd......;)



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[Steve Rozmiarek]

Awesome work, beautiful saw!

[Brian Weick]

Here are the final shots of the 1929 Oliver 88D....

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad89/bweick7/Oliver88Dlights.jpg


http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad89/bweick7/Frontviewofthe88D.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad89/bweick7/Lefttopviewofthe88D.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad89/bweick7/Leftsideofthe88D.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad89/bweick7/Rearofthe88D.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad89/bweick7/Rightsideaccesstothe88D.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad89/bweick7/Righttopviewofthe88D.jpg




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[David Kumm]

Brian, your work is always stunning. Looks like the tables were cold planed and still original? How is the runout and the slider? Dave

[Brian Weick]

Run out?......

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[dan grant]

Run out?......

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good one:),very nice machine thanks for the pics

[Rick Potter]

Wow,

That's all I can say.

Wow,

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[Michael W. Clark]

I hate this. That saw looks so awesome, it makes me want to replace a lot of my equipment with old arn and restore it. But I know I couldn't do as good a job.

Excellent work Brian!

Mike

[mreza Salav]

Very impressive and nice restore. It's right up there with your 32" bandsaw. Great finds and great work in restoration!

[Brian Weick]

I hate this. That saw looks so awesome, it makes me want to replace a lot of my equipment with old arn and restore it. But I know I couldn't do as good a job.

Excellent work Brian!

Mike


Thanks guys.....

Yes you can........!!

Just organize your restoration process.........and do it up write,,,......

You would be amazed at what you can do.......

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[Mike Wilkins]

Wow. The finished product looks like a new machine, and you even added a light under the hood. Nice to see the effort put into a beautiful piece of machinery instead of allowing it to end up at the scrap dealer yard.

[zayd alle]

Fantastic finish, Brian.

I have my eyes on a 260D that may work out, albeit without the quadrant or miter gauge.