Whats this bandsaw worth?

[Jeff Monson]

I ran across this bandsaw on CL yesterday. Its close to me for a change!! I was kind of in the marker for something a little bigger...but I've read alot of good things about MM saws.
Personally I think he is a little high on the price??
Also, its advertised with another set of tires, how often do these need to be changed? and is it a pain to do when its time?

http://fargo.craigslist.org/tls/2462640257.html

[Bruce Page]

$2000 does seem a little high, I paid $1895 + shipping for my MM16 in 2004 (Identical machine).
I don’t see the need to have a spare set of tires. The original owner probably ordered them when he ordered the saw thinking it was a good idea at the time.

[Walter Plummer]

"I don't see the need to have a spare set of tires." They are in North Dakota. That's probably the snow tires.:D

[michael a nelson]

$1200 at most id say i bought mine off crlist for $565 2 years ago little bigger machine though very happy with it

[Mark Engel]

Great machine. Priced way too high. Make an offer. You never know.

[Larry Edgerton]

"I don't see the need to have a spare set of tires." They are in North Dakota. That's probably the snow tires.:D

Thats good stuff there now.....

[eugene thomas]

whats it worth?? what ever someone is willing to pay.

[Jeff Monson]

whats it worth?? what ever someone is willing to pay.

That really helps me out, I'm looking for a price that would be fair to pay for this bandsaw, I always hear this phrase. If the saw sold for $1895.00 new that does not make it "worth" $15,000.00 if I'm willing to pay that much for it.

[Joe Angrisani]

....If the saw sold for $1895.00 new that does not make it "worth" $15,000.00 if I'm willing to pay that much for it.

Actually, it does. :D

Back on the serious side of the road.... I think the seller's location works against him and lowers the price. He just doesn't have as many potential buyers as more populated areas. $1000 is probably about right. Offer $900 and tell him he can sell the tires separately.

[David Hostetler]

He is extremely out of line price wise even IF he were trying to sell it in a very populated area.... $1,200.0 at MOST, and even that is being quite generous.

[Jeff Monson]

Actually, it does. :D

Back on the serious side of the road.... I think the seller's location works against him and lowers the price. He just doesn't have as many potential buyers as more populated areas. $1000 is probably about right. Offer $900 and tell him he can sell the tires separately.

Joe I just dont get that phrase, maybe its just the stupid Norwegian in me but.....if I'm willing to pay $15,000.00 for a saw that was valued "new" at 1895.00 (which I had no idea of, thats why I asked). that certainly doesnt make the saw worth $15,000.00 does it? To me it just means I made a really bad choice. To me the general consensus here is the saw should be worth $1000.00 to $1200.00.

Oh and BTW I called him last night, didnt talk money yet but the spare tires are "studded snow tires" I think that definatly makes it "worth" the $15,000.00 I'm willing to pay. :rolleyes:

[Joe Mioux]

too much $ for an '04. I paid $1995 for a new one in '06... ...that did not include the freight charges...

[Dave Mura]

I would go up to around $1,200
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[David Kumm]

Jeff, unless that saw is the equivalent to the heavy version they sell today, I think your first thought was the best. Wait for a different saw. This one will probably never go low enough that it will seem like such a bargain that you can overlook its deficiencies. A normal 16 isn't a very big saw. Dave

[Bruce Page]

$1000 is probably about right. Offer $900 and tell him he can sell the tires separately.
Well, if I were ever to sell my 2004 version I would not let it go for less than $1400 period. Add the fact that I upgraded to Carter guides I probably wouldn’t let it go for less than $1600. These just don't wear out in a hobbyist shop and there's not a huge difference between a 2004 and a 2011. Mine has 14" resaw capability versus 16" for the new model. I wonder how often you would actually need 16", the most I have ever cut was 12" and that was just to see what it would do. YMMV
What is a new one is going for $2500? Plus another couple hundred to ship? If you were looking to buy one new anyway then $1500-$1600 doesn’t sound too bad unless you’re hung up on “new”. Maybe I just look at things differently.

[Jeff Monson]

Jeff, unless that saw is the equivalent to the heavy version they sell today, I think your first thought was the best. Wait for a different saw. This one will probably never go low enough that it will seem like such a bargain that you can overlook its deficiencies. A normal 16 isn't a very big saw. Dave

Good points Dave, I dont think $1200.00 would buy the saw anyways. That is what it would take for me to be interested. I'm going to the AWFS to shop for a bandsaw in a couple weeks. A 20" is what I'd prefer.

[Larry Fox]

I think that $1,200 might just buy the saw. In fact, I think that if you went in with $1,000 in cash ready to haul it out that minute there might be one of those long silent chin-scratching, foot-shuffling moments at the end of which he agrees to sell. I bought mine (same model) about 3 years ago for something in the $1,200 range and it was nearly new. Slap a set of Carter guides on it and you will have a great saw. I have never found mine to be underpowered at all at 3.6ish-hp and I am in the same boat as Bruce in that I have never had the need to resaw anything taller than 12" and it did just fine with that (Walnut). I think it deserves consideration. I also use the general condition of the immediate surroundings as a guide as to if I should make an offer or not. If the guy takes great care of his tools they will trade at a premium to the tools for sale by the guy whose tools are not so well cared for.

[Paul McGaha]

Jeff,

If you have an interest in the bandsaw I suggest you make an offer based on what you think is a fair deal.

There are tools for sale in our local craigslist that are way too high. Pricing like a used Powermatic 26 going for almost as much as a new PM-2700. I guess the guy is expecting a counter offer of around half of his asking price so he's got his asking price way high. Other than that I dont know what he's doing.

Good luck with it. It sounds like you're pretty close to buying a new one anyway. I can see where it would take a really good deal to get you to change direction.

[johnny means]

I made an offer of $1200, lets see if he bites. Of course, even if he does, the drive from Delaware to Fargo is a real deal breaker:D.

BTW a quick Google search tells me its in a flooring shop. IME professionals don't like to keep unused equipment around. If they're listing it it needs to go. Scored me a Hammer B3 slider/shaper for a $1000 because it was "in the way".

[James Carmichael]

Make him an offer. I find most things on CL priced ridiculously high. The things that arent' disappear before I know they're there.

One thing to consider: what is the cost of a similar new MM16? If this saw compares will with the new ones and has been used as little as he says and well-cared for, he may not be too far off. If he wont take your best offer, leave him your contact info and walk away, you may hear back.

Of course, I'm speculating as I probably couldn't afford to be in the same room with an MM16.

[Jim Andrew]

I bought a new MM16 in 05, of course it was a '04 model, came with a carbide tip 1" blade, and 3 steel blades, the dolly tool, and was 2500 delivered. The salesman said it would last for 20 years, running 2 shifts per day.

[Russell Sansom]

I paid $1600 here in the bay area and that was a good find after a lot of patient fishing on craig's list and EBAY. I'm not sure what the discussion is about the "the equivalent to the heavy version they sell today." There is basically only one mm-16. Perhaps the poster was thinking of the E-16? It is a bit lighter, and available in the $800 - $1000 range.
But there IS a use where every mm of resaw height is crucial. That is in ripping logs either for resawing later or in prep for turning. Basically, I have to cleve/handsaw a log in half ( down its length ) before I can run the resultant half-logs through the bandsaw. So the "board" resawing I'll do will be a bit short of the BS capacity, maybe. But the log itself will often present a height challenge....especially if the log demands a sled to keep it lined up.