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Lee Schierer
06-07-2011, 7:50 PM
I inadvertently broke our old oscillating lawn sprinkler while relocating the hose. Apparently all lawn sprinklers are not created equally. We've had this one so long I forgot when we got it, but it has worked reliably until I broke it. I went to the Orange Borg, bought their best metal base Melnor lawn sprinkler. Brought it home hooked it up and it ran for about a dozen oscillations until our water pressure dropped ( well 40-60 psig), then it stalled in one place, flooding that area. Even when the water pressure increased it remained stalled, just clicking away. Took it back got another of the same model (360M), same problem.

Reading sprinkler reviews online is amazing half the people either love a model or hate it.

Has anyone recently purchased an oscillating type lawn sprinkler for about $25-30 that works on water pressure down to 40 psig (or lower) that doesn't fall part in the first few weeks of use?

Larry Edgerton
06-08-2011, 6:10 AM
There used to be a company out in Iowa that made the best, they are the ones that made the tractor sprinklers [I have two!] but they made the mistake of getting involved with WalMart, and now they are no more. If my tractors ever wear out I will be looking myself.

Its not just sprinklers, its everything. As long as the public's first priority is price, this will be how things go. Most often what you hear is how little some one paid for something, not how good it is made. I don't even think a company could survive on quality right now, unless it is a small niche market like Lie Nielson. Good names are being drug in the dirt. Took a look at a Troy Built tiller to get back into gardening. Not even close to the one I had 25 years ago. But it is cheap!

Sad really.......

Larry

John Coloccia
06-08-2011, 6:43 AM
Another one of those seemingly simple devices that no one can seem to get right anymore, like pencils and toasters.

Checkout a local nursery or garden center and ask them where you can buy decent equipment. They probably have a good source.

Matt Meiser
06-08-2011, 7:22 AM
There used to be a company out in Iowa that made the best, they are the ones that made the tractor sprinklers [I have two!] but they made the mistake of getting involved with WalMart, and now they are no more. If my tractors ever wear out I will be looking myself.

That is Nelson (Peoria, Illinois actually). I bought 4 nice hose nozzles from them over the last 2 years so we'd a good one in each spot we have a hose. Not cheap ones but metal ones with a selectable spray pattern. 100% failure rate on the four in 12-24 months. They were stored off the hoses, in the garage over the winter so it shouldn't have been caused by freezing and the failures are different. I went to their web site to try to find out about warranty and searching their site for the word warrantee or guarantee gives no results. I had to email customer service who told me all their stuff has 1 year warranty and that you have to have the original receipt and send them the defective item. Right--who saves a receipt for a $12 item and pays $6 to send it in for replacement? To their somewhat credit they did send me 3 replacements from a photo i sent, but the replacements feel even more cheaply made. What's really sickening is that the are a Robert Bosch company! Bosch also owns the brand carried at Lowes and they also now have a Peoria, IL address.

I bought 3 new store brand ones at our local Do-It-Best hardware. They have an over the counter replacement guarantee. Ironically, when I got them off the packaging they say Nelson right on them but they feel more substantial than the ones they are replacing. And I know they will take care of me.

Art Mulder
06-08-2011, 7:44 AM
Has anyone recently purchased an oscillating type lawn sprinkler for about $2530 that works on water pressure down to 40 psig (or lower) that doesn't fall part in the first few weeks of use?

Think you've got a typo in that price, Lee... :D

Anyways, you might want to take a look at the Garden Tools side of Lee Valley. They've got a good selection of sprinklers (http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?cat=2,2280&p=33159) there, and they don't tend to sell junk.

Bob Riefer
06-08-2011, 8:04 AM
Not directly related, but I recently added about a dozen metal quick hose connections to our garden hose scheme. What a difference this has made in my life. What's funny, is that I'm not even kidding. :)

Brian Vaughn
06-08-2011, 8:35 AM
I bought into the WalMart sprinkler, and couldn't be happier. They don't sell the exact model I bought, but here's the newe version, apparently: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Melnor-Turbo-Oscillating-Sprinkler/16213340 It lets you adjust the number of nozzles it sprays out of, and how much flow you allow, and is now in the middle of it's second summer and I've never had any problems out of it. And for 15-20, I can't complain at all.

Lee Schierer
06-08-2011, 9:20 AM
I bought into the WalMart sprinkler, and couldn't be happier. They don't sell the exact model I bought, but here's the newe version, apparently: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Melnor-Turbo-Oscillating-Sprinkler/16213340 It lets you adjust the number of nozzles it sprays out of, and how much flow you allow, and is now in the middle of it's second summer and I've never had any problems out of it. And for 15-20, I can't complain at all.

That's the same brand as the ones that won't work on low water pressure that I returned. HD had that one as well.

Brian Vaughn
06-08-2011, 9:32 AM
Well crud. Sorry to hear it. I wonder if they changed anything on the new design?

Ed Hazel
06-08-2011, 9:33 AM
I went through this a few years back, ended up making some pvc stands that I could screw in pop up type sprinkler heads works well

Rob Cunningham
06-08-2011, 11:00 AM
Lee,
I have well water about the same pressure as yours. I've had a Nelson plastic oscillating sprinkler for 20 + years that works fine on low pressure. Not sure what model # it is. It has a round plastic base. I think I got it at Sears. It looks something like this but not as modern.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07160866000P?prdNo=7&blockNo=7&blockType=G7

Erik France
06-08-2011, 11:46 AM
The best Oscillating Sprinkler I've used is made by Gardena. The model I have isn't in your price range, but it's been great for the last 11 years. Patterns are fully adjustable, flow valve, and the timer is really nice: http://www.amazon.com/Aquazoom-3800-Square-Oscillating-Sprinkler-Adjustable/dp/B002VED438/ref=sr_1_9?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1307547184&sr=1-9

This one is still a little over your price point; http://www.amazon.com/Aquazoom-2700-Square-Oscillating-Sprinkler-Adjustable/dp/B0001E3TBC/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1307547435&sr=1-1

I've tried various Nelsons & Melnors from the big box stores. Not a one has been any good. I just need to break down and get another Gardena for the front yard.

glenn bradley
06-08-2011, 12:26 PM
Another one of those seemingly simple devices that no one can seem to get right anymore, like pencils and toasters.

. . . and drill presses; I am tired of waiting for a properly priced and well designed woodworking drill press . . .

Jeff Monson
06-08-2011, 1:56 PM
The good old tractor sprinkler is very hard to beat.

David G Baker
06-08-2011, 3:46 PM
I buy used brass sprinklers at garage sales. Some need a little tune up but most perform well. I haven't tried any of the new plastic sprinklers and my well water pressure is high so I haven't had a problem unless the laundry is being washed and I have 3 sprinklers running at the same time.

Lee Schierer
06-08-2011, 3:50 PM
I called Melnor at lunch time today and told them I had problems with two of their sprinklers not working on my water pressure. After checking with a technician, the Customer Service lady said that they would not work at pressures at or below 40 psig. I told her t would have been nice if that information was on their packaging or their website. She agreed, and asked me to hold a minute. She said I should use their model 300 or 280.

When she came back on the line she told me she wanted to get my full name and address to send me a model 300 sprinkler at no charge to replace the one I had purchased. And, I should call them back if that one does not work for me.:)

Leigh Betsch
06-08-2011, 7:21 PM
Glad to hear that they have someone knowledgeable in their customer service dept. My experience has been that most of these companies have outsourced their manufacturing and gotten rid of anyone that knows anything about the real product design or construction. Replaced them with snot nosed flashy marketers that think if it's wrapped in six color packaging any crap will sell.

Gary Hodgin
06-08-2011, 7:45 PM
I've bought several sprinklers over the years. All of them held up well until I used them. I'll probably be back at BORG buying a couple more this year since I used them last year. I usually get about 2 to 3 sprinkles out of them.

Jim Rimmer
06-08-2011, 11:26 PM
The good old tractor sprinkler is very hard to beat.
Unless you live in one of the new subdivisions where they have shrunk the lots in order to cram in more houses and there is no room to run it. Not to mention the trench next to my sidewalk that goes down the middle of the yard dug by the previous owners yard crew in what they call "edging". :eek: The tractor would never make it over. But, I agree with you - where you can use them they are great. I'm keeping mine until I move out of suburbia.

Bill Huber
06-09-2011, 4:34 AM
Lee, take a look at these, I had one at one time and it just worked and did a great job. I left it in the shed when I move last time. They are not cheap but the the one I had lasted for years.

http://www.bestnest.com/bestnest/RTProduct.asp?SKU=DRA-10-15003&src=nextag&kw=DRA-10-15003

Larry Edgerton
06-09-2011, 6:43 AM
That is Nelson (Peoria, Illinois actually). I bought 4 nice hose nozzles from them over the last 2 years so we'd a good one in each spot we have a hose. Not cheap ones but metal ones with a selectable spray pattern. 100% failure rate on the four in 12-24 months. They were stored off the hoses, in the garage over the winter so it shouldn't have been caused by freezing and the failures are different. I went to their web site to try to find out about warranty and searching their site for the word warrantee or guarantee gives no results. I had to email customer service who told me all their stuff has 1 year warranty and that you have to have the original receipt and send them the defective item. Right--who saves a receipt for a $12 item and pays $6 to send it in for replacement? To their somewhat credit they did send me 3 replacements from a photo i sent, but the replacements feel even more cheaply made. What's really sickening is that the are a Robert Bosch company! Bosch also owns the brand carried at Lowes and they also now have a Peoria, IL address.

I bought 3 new store brand ones at our local Do-It-Best hardware. They have an over the counter replacement guarantee. Ironically, when I got them off the packaging they say Nelson right on them but they feel more substantial than the ones they are replacing. And I know they will take care of me.

All that is left of the original Nelson company is a name. Like so many other good names it is just a basterdized shell ofitself, like Troy Built, Cub Cadet, Porter Cable, and the list just goes on and on.

Joe Angrisani
06-09-2011, 9:35 AM
All that is left of the original Nelson company is a name. Like so many other good names it is just a basterdized shell ofitself, like Troy Built, Cub Cadet, Porter Cable, and the list just goes on and on.

Like so many other good names, we the consumer have made them just a basterdized shell of itself....

victoria stiles
09-29-2011, 7:16 AM
This type of sprinkler has a single bar punched with a series of holes. It has a mechanism to oscillate the bar back and forth, creating a fan-shaped arc of water. The oscillating mechanism can be adjusted from a full side to side movement to any level on both sides. That way you can water only one side of an area and make the sprinkler stop at the zenith of the arc. It is difficult to maintain sprinklers.