Chris Thompson
02-02-2005, 11:27 AM
Got home last night and the UPS man had left me a present.
You'll recall that last week I posted about an auction (http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=16092) I'd just won on that one auction site. The plane was a "Savage" and had the dimensions of a #7.
Well, I got it and am very happy with what I got.
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/side.jpg
It's definitely a #7. 22" long, 2 3/8" wide iron. It has absolutely no markings on it that identify a brand (Other than savage, see below). The body is completely devoid of any branding, patent date, or other type of mark.
The tote and knob are completely solid, no cracks.
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/knob.jpg
A bit of love should bring these back to life.
Other than a few edge dings, as seen above in the knob pic, the body of this plane is in amazing shape. No cracks, sole is only a good lap away from being perfectly flat.
There is one oddity, a divot out of the left cheek that I originally took for a piece cracked out and brazed back in.
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/divot.jpg
What's odd though, is that once I got the frog out, the inside of that cheek is perfectly smooth, and the japaning is almost perfect. It's not any sort of crack at all. I have no idea if it's some sort of casting defect, or if it had been inadvertantly ground away by something. The cheek itself is nice and square to the sole, so the divot doesn't affect the use at all.
The frog does not have an adjustment screws like later baileys. Based on photos on supertool, this looks to be a frog system similar to a Type 6 or 7 era bailey.
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/frog2.jpg
A flat raised portion of the body, parallel to the sole with two raised ridges that fit into grooves on the base of the frog.
Iron, cap iron and lever cap are all very solid, though I've never seen an iron with a hexagonal hole at the bottom of the slot.
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/ironcap.jpg
There is no "rust" of the sort I've dealt with on other planes, that flaky rust that makes your hands orange. There is simply a dark patina. I'm not even sure if electrolysis will take it off.
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/sole.jpg
And as for brand, here's the "Savage"
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/imprint.jpg
It's an imprint on the back of the iron in small type. The As have no cross bar and are obviously inverted Vs. It's not in a straight line, and it isn't parallel with the end of the iron. It looks to me to have been hand imprinted, one letter at a time. I'd guess it's a previous owner.
So what I've got is a very solid #7 that could be used today with a bit of fettling. Completely brandless, obviously made by some company copying Stanley forms. It looks to be a Type 6 era version with a simple but good frog system.
Not too shabby for $26.
You'll recall that last week I posted about an auction (http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=16092) I'd just won on that one auction site. The plane was a "Savage" and had the dimensions of a #7.
Well, I got it and am very happy with what I got.
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/side.jpg
It's definitely a #7. 22" long, 2 3/8" wide iron. It has absolutely no markings on it that identify a brand (Other than savage, see below). The body is completely devoid of any branding, patent date, or other type of mark.
The tote and knob are completely solid, no cracks.
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/knob.jpg
A bit of love should bring these back to life.
Other than a few edge dings, as seen above in the knob pic, the body of this plane is in amazing shape. No cracks, sole is only a good lap away from being perfectly flat.
There is one oddity, a divot out of the left cheek that I originally took for a piece cracked out and brazed back in.
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/divot.jpg
What's odd though, is that once I got the frog out, the inside of that cheek is perfectly smooth, and the japaning is almost perfect. It's not any sort of crack at all. I have no idea if it's some sort of casting defect, or if it had been inadvertantly ground away by something. The cheek itself is nice and square to the sole, so the divot doesn't affect the use at all.
The frog does not have an adjustment screws like later baileys. Based on photos on supertool, this looks to be a frog system similar to a Type 6 or 7 era bailey.
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/frog2.jpg
A flat raised portion of the body, parallel to the sole with two raised ridges that fit into grooves on the base of the frog.
Iron, cap iron and lever cap are all very solid, though I've never seen an iron with a hexagonal hole at the bottom of the slot.
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/ironcap.jpg
There is no "rust" of the sort I've dealt with on other planes, that flaky rust that makes your hands orange. There is simply a dark patina. I'm not even sure if electrolysis will take it off.
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/sole.jpg
And as for brand, here's the "Savage"
http://cthompson.com/photos/planes/savage/imprint.jpg
It's an imprint on the back of the iron in small type. The As have no cross bar and are obviously inverted Vs. It's not in a straight line, and it isn't parallel with the end of the iron. It looks to me to have been hand imprinted, one letter at a time. I'd guess it's a previous owner.
So what I've got is a very solid #7 that could be used today with a bit of fettling. Completely brandless, obviously made by some company copying Stanley forms. It looks to be a Type 6 era version with a simple but good frog system.
Not too shabby for $26.