View Full Version : Contrast revisited
Myk Rian
04-13-2011, 8:25 PM
So, tell me something. When are you people going to help us color blind people with the contrast of the icons around here?
It's a real PITA ya know.
Myk Rian
04-23-2011, 8:28 AM
10 days and no answer. The silence is deafening.
Dirk Lewis
04-24-2011, 3:24 PM
Perhaps it's the tone of your question...?
Glenn Vaughn
04-24-2011, 5:02 PM
While the OP's post is a bit terse, I can understand his frustration.
I have had problems with the contrast and have brought it up previously and recveived no satisfactory answer. SMC is using a single theme and does not appear to have much interest in providing an alternative for those of us that have difficulties with the default theme. vBulliten does provide for multiple themes sut I assume it takes some work to implement them
Technicall I am not color blind but I am currently color challenged. I have AMD and have recently has an incident in my "good" eye that has dimmed pretty much everything. For example as I type this text it is barely discernable because it is light grey on a white background. I am on a 27" monitor and need to use Windos magnifier for easier reading. Magnifier is turned on with the Windows Key+U.
If the OP is operating under the Windows operating system, there is a way to improve viewing (somewhat better but not ideal). Using Left-Shift+Alt+PrintScr will switch to High Contrast mode - repeating the key combination will turn it off.
The theme for High Contrast can be set in Control Panel/Accability Options.
Keith Outten
04-25-2011, 7:19 AM
All of the feedback we have received for months concerning the last update of vBulletin has been positive. The complaints stopped just after we finished the upgrade.
The colors I have on my monitor are white background with black text which is the most contrast you can have, if the text is actually gray it sure looks black to me.
There must be a million combinations of monitors and graphics cards available, we can't possibly test them all to identify which ones work nor could we find one setting that suits 100% of the people here. Over the last nine years we made one change to the color scheme here and the majority here hated the colors we selected so we are a bit shy about straying from the default color theme.
Last but not least is that it would take a full time person just to keep up with the recommendations we receive and the requests for us to add features. We already host a major list of custom features that have to be re-installed every time we upgrade vBulletin. The work load here has increased dramatically over the years, in the last four months our traffic has doubled and revenues continue to shrink.
We are pedaling as fast as we can with every ounce of energy we can muster.
Myk, I missed your thread on April 13th. I can't read every post and thread anymore nor can I answer every email and private message. Something else you don't know is that we recently had to spend almost a weeks worth of man hours responding to a legal subpoena from a federal court. It required all three of our Administrators to work on our response so for a time we were not able to support The Creek at all.
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Glenn Vaughn
04-25-2011, 1:10 PM
Keith,
I appreciate the response and understand the issues you have to deal with.
The background does appear to be white - until you open something that is pure white to see the difference. The background is either a very light grey or cyan. I can see this difference when I switch to high-contrast mode. Also I am sure the text looks black to you - it is my eyes that are seeing it s dim (gray). This line is black to me (it is bold). It is not just vBulleting that has changed to the more muted contrast. Microsoft has done it with their Office products and many web sites have adopted it as well.
As I have said before, the problem lies with the developers. Most are young and cannot conceive the visual effects on those with visual problems. Microsoft things that high contrast is lack background with various colored text - they offer 3 high contrast themes that are black background but only one with white background.
So far I am able to read this site but it does involve high-contrast, magnifier and increasing the size of the displayed web page.
Myk Rian
04-25-2011, 1:30 PM
All Left-Shift+Alt+PrintScr does is change the desktop. Not the forum colors.
Here's the problem;
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/images/statusicon/forum_new-48.png and http://www.sawmillcreek.org/images/statusicon/forum_old-48.png
I have a hard time with them, as others also do. It can't be such a problem changing to something with more contrast.
These work great;
http://www.routerforums.com/images/rf_new/statusicon/forum_new.gif and http://www.routerforums.com/images/rf_new/statusicon/forum_old.gif
See the difference?
vBulletin.org has all kinds of examples. http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=164
Heck Keith. Even Jackie told me once she didn't like the colors.
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