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Doug Colombo
04-04-2011, 8:45 AM
OK – somehow I got some small scratches on my band saw and table saw cast iron tops :eek: :eek:. They look to be only light scratches – I tried rubbing them with another coat of Johnson’s paste wax but no luck. Any ideas how to remove them or should I just leave well enough alone ?

Jim Heffner
04-04-2011, 9:46 AM
Removal of small scratches....if these scratches are minor/small and barely noticeable, I would clean them with a ROS and some #200 grit sandpaper and WD-40 and call it done and forget them! Small scratches are in-evitable on cast iron top tools and machines, you'll work yourself to death and worry about it forever for nothing...not worth it in my opinion. After sanding, clean up well and re wax the top a couple of times and then you are ready to work again!
Hope this helps.......Jim Heffner

Prashun Patel
04-04-2011, 10:13 AM
Steel wool can get some scratches out. An angle grinder with a cup brush wheel will certainly remove scratches.

The problem with any abrading is that you will be left with a dull spot that needs to be buffed to match the rest of the top.

Personally, unless the scratch prevents smooth movement, I'd leave it. It's like the stainless steel sink we got 10 years ago in our kitchen. Eventually it accumulates enough scratches that it looks nice and even.

Frank Drew
04-04-2011, 10:48 AM
Doug,

If the scratches are such that they're scratching the underside of your work, then you'll have to smooth them out. But if they're just scratches -- cosmetic flaws, in other words -- don't worry about it. These are tools, after all, not the furniture you'll be making on them.

Way back then, I bought a brand new 1973 Ford pickup ($2650 off the dealer's lot!); a friend told I ought to take a piece of firewood and give one of the sidewalls a good bash, just so that I could get over trying to keep this working vehicle pristine.

Mike Goetzke
04-04-2011, 10:59 AM
I treat all my new CI surfaces close to a process called "Dave's Dirty Dozen." I use WD-40 with a gray Scotchbrite pad under a 1/4 sheet sander and with light pressure make several passes. I'll clean with a rag and repeat. The use a degreaser to clean the table then quickly (sometimes you can see surface rust appear before your eye after degreasing) apply Boeshield T-9 let set and then add paste wax. This may remove the defects.

Mike

Jeff Monson
04-04-2011, 1:51 PM
If I can catch the scratch with my fingernail, then I will remove it, otherwise it just adds character. I also use WD-40 and light grit sandpaper, 220-320, followed by degreaser and paste wax.

glenn bradley
04-04-2011, 2:22 PM
If they are of a type that marks the material sliding across it, I smooth them down, if they are only visual, I don't bother.

Myk Rian
04-04-2011, 5:32 PM
If a 2" chisel doesn't snag on it, I leave it be.

Bernie May
04-04-2011, 7:16 PM
Please keep the comments coming on this one. I know a number of us are interested in what others do about scratches in cast iron surfaces. I inadvertently scratched my brand new Sawstop PCS.
-bernie

Dexter Lichtenstein
04-04-2011, 8:40 PM
Lie-Nielsen advises Sandflex Blocks from Klingspor for their hand planes. I got them in medium and fine, used on my planes and tablesaw and they are fantastic for light scratches and rust.

Joe Chritz
04-05-2011, 4:42 AM
I stopped worrying about scratches once I ran my circular saw into my tablesaw top. :)

Joe

Larry Edgerton
04-05-2011, 7:03 AM
If you take the scratches all the way out then you will have a depression in the table. I hate scratches as much as the next guy but it is inevitable. Take any burrs off that stick above the table, and call it a day.

I had just bought my SCM 520 planer and had an employee run some tapered Dolly Varden siding reproductions through it on an angled jig. The pieces were held in place with screws, and I explained to him not to set the screws too deep and to use 1 1/4". He used 1 5/8 inch. He put about 20 scratches in the cast steel table and never even noticed it. I fired himas it was not his first oops, but I still have to look at the scratches every time I use the planer. I thought about taking it off and having it resurfaced, but it really does not affect operation at all so I put up with it, but ya, it does bug you doesn't it?

Larry

Matt Winterowd
04-05-2011, 10:08 AM
I stopped worrying about scratches once I ran my circular saw into my tablesaw top. :)

Mine was a router. Surprising how well they cut cast iron.

Bill White
04-05-2011, 10:58 AM
I'm glad to see reason prevail on this issue. Some folks seem to think that only mirror-like TS tops work well. Clean? Absolutely. Waxed? You betcha. Constant point of worry and concern? Not in my shop, and my shop is cleaned regularly.
Bill

Doug Colombo
04-05-2011, 9:00 PM
Thanks for all the great info. After reading all of the comments, I don't believe that the scratches on the saws will be a problem, but it is great to know how to remove them if they or any new ones cause issues ! And yes Larry your right, they do drive me nuts !!! :D Thanks !

johnny means
04-06-2011, 12:25 AM
Put a cold can of soda onto to the affected area and leave it there for the night. The resulting black ring will mask the scratched area quite well.

Timothy Juvenal
04-06-2011, 8:46 AM
If I find a scratch on a saw top, I'll knock the burr off with a mill bastard & get back to work.

Timothy

Wayne Hendrix
04-06-2011, 9:53 AM
Put a cold can of soda onto to the affected area and leave it there for the night. The resulting black ring will mask the scratched area quite well.

So far I think this is the best solution I have seen.

Adrian Anguiano
04-06-2011, 11:54 AM
I get so many scratches it would take way to much time to remove them every time i get one. My Grizzly table seems to be softer than my previous Jet table; so it happens more often now.

Kyle Iwamoto
04-06-2011, 3:28 PM
Put a cold can of soda onto to the affected area and leave it there for the night. The resulting black ring will mask the scratched area quite well.

That's the ticket! ROTFLMAO

I'm in the leave it alone if it doesn't snag your work group.

I didn't realize that a router or circular saw will cut a CI top. I do know a circular saw will cut an aluminum stepladder just fine though.

paul dyar
04-06-2011, 7:54 PM
Scary sharp method, you can make the top shine.
Paul