My New English Workbench: The Official Tour

[Chris Griggs]

I more or less finished this bench this past week, and am thrilled to finally be able to show it off. As is likely apparent from the photos this is my take on Chris Schwarz’s English/Nicholson Workbench. I also included components inspired from others who have built this bench (e.g. Bob Rozaieski and Mike Siemsen), and added a couple small twists of my own.
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The bench is 66” long by 20” deep and a bit under 34” tall. This was the largest I could fit in my VERY small workspace. It’s made mostly from Southern Yellow Pine, the vast majority of which is recycled. I’m not sure what the legs are made of, other than to say they’re softwood and the back legs are a different species than the front. They came from two large old beams I found at the recycled lumber dealer.

The top was cut from a huge laminate beam that was given to me by a friend of mine. The story is that that it came off an old church that partially collapsed after someone accidently ran a truck into it. The only new lumber I bought for this project were the 2by12s usde for the aprons and the 8/4 maple used for the vice chops and the planing stops.

Now for the work holding

1. The front vise is a slanted leg vise. It’s amazing! It’s rock solid and the clamping capacity is huge (can cover 8” to the right of the screw). The picture shows a 10” wide board clamped in it. I had considered making a twin screw vise instead, but MAN am I glad I went with this.
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2. The end vice is a small Groz Rapid Action Vise that I got from Woodcraft. I extended the bench top past the aprons by about six inches so I could mount the vise as close to the edge as possible and thereby minimize racking when using my dog holes, which I also put as close to the edge as possible (centers are 2” from the edge). This is really great for any kind of fenced joinery plane.
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3. Hold fast holes… Simple and effective…. Nuf said.

4. Even though I have an end vise, I really like using planning stops, particularly for thin stock, which I use quite frequently. So like Bob Rozaieski and Mike Siemsen I decided to make a split top bench with removable planing stops. The stops are notched so the I can flip them over and have them fill the gap in the top while sitting just below the work surface.
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A small, but significant, adjustment I made was to use 8/4 stock for the stops. Why? Well the one disadvantage of the large aprons on this bench is the ability to use F-clamps to clamp things to the top. Yes, holdfasts are great, but sometimes you just need a clamp. By using 8/4 stock for the planing stops I was able to have a gap in the top that was just the right size for most clamps and thus was able to mostly overcome the this issue with the aprons.

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And finally… what workbench thread would be complete without the obligatory shot of one’s favorite planes and handsaws laid out on the bench in completely unrealistic way (aka: the stealth gloat).
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Anyway, I’ve only just begun to break this thing in, but I can tell you that so far it has exceeded my hopes and expectations every respect. I can’t wait to put it to more use. If you’ve thinking about building a workbench, I highly recommend that you consider “putting some English on it.”


Cheers!

Chris Griggs
New Orleans, LA

[glenn bradley]

What fun. Great looking bench.

[Will Boulware]

Looks good! I'm currently pondering something similar. Glad to see the occasional non-Roubo. :D

[Peter Pedisich]

Chris, thanks for sharing! this is the exact bench I want to build after seeing it on Bob R's podcast.

[Mike Siemsen]

Great job on your bench. I love mine and consider it the best bench style out there for many reasons.
Mike Siemsen

[george wilson]

Does the top slide open? The English benches in the cabinet shop in Williamsburg have a section of the tops that slide open,revealing a tool till beneath.

[Chris Griggs]

Thanks for the compliments everyone! I hope it gives others contemplating bench builds some idea's of their own.


Does the top slide open? The English benches in the cabinet shop in Williamsburg have a section of the tops that slide open,revealing a tool till beneath.

Nope, top doesn't open up. That would be pretty sweet though. I don't really like tool trays, but one that was covered by the top itself would probably be to my tastes. Out of curiosity, how were those constructed?


Great job on your bench. I love mine and consider it the best bench style out there for many reasons.
Mike Siemsen

Thanks Mike. As I said in the original post your bench was definitely an inspiration for me. Minnesotans must think alike (I grew up in St. Paul).

[Michael Peet]

Nice job, Chris. The angled geometry must have added an extra bit of challenge, eh?

Mike

[george wilson]

On the sliding top,a board in the middle of the bench,in 2 pieces meeting in the center of the bench,If I recall,can slide lengthways,revealng a till below. It always seemed to me that the till would be unhandy to try to open with stuff on the bench top.

That's how they made the English style benches in the Anthony Hay Cabinet Shop in Wmsbg..

[gary Zimmel]

Real nice job on the bench Chris..

[Brent Ring]

Nice Bench!

[Chris Griggs]

Nice job, Chris. The angled geometry must have added an extra bit of challenge, eh?

Mike

A little bit of an extra challenge yes, but really, that part wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. It's really no different than sawing square, just different layout. The legs are slanted at about 15 degrees off of 90, but I tried not to get wrapped up in the specific geometry. Rather, I was just very careful that the angle I cut the legs to matched on all fours legs; I marked all four legs out together before doing any cutting. For any other components (e.g. tenon shoulders on long stretchers) I just made the angles matched the previous angles I had cut on the legs. I didn't get it perfect and do have some gaps, but overall dealing with the angles is a lot easier than it seems.

[John Sanford]

Anyway, I’ve only just begun to break this thing in, but I can tell you that so far it has exceeded my hopes and expectations every respect. I can’t wait to put it to more use. If you’ve thinking about building a workbench, I highly recommend that you consider “putting some English on it.”


Cheers!

Chris Griggs
New Orleans, LA
Sacrebleu!!! Eeet ees sacrilege! Monsieur Roubo is spinning in his grave! An English bench in New Orleans?!! :eek:

Beautiful bench, make sure you do an followup after you've got a few projects using it under your belt. I love that you angled the legs, that's one thing about the NickelSchwarz that I really like. The aesthetic of it just tickles my fancy.

[Tony Shea]

Very nice bench, a style that I think I'm going to settle on. I've just not decided between this and the Roubo yet but am leaning toward this one. What did your bench top end up finishing out to in thickness? That is my only concern with this bench.

[Chris Griggs]

Very nice bench, a style that I think I'm going to settle on. I've just not decided between this and the Roubo yet but am leaning toward this one. What did your bench top end up finishing out to in thickness? That is my only concern with this bench.

Thanks Tony! My top ended up being somewhere between 2 1/8 & 2 1/4 thick. The huge beam that we got it from was actually 5 inches thick but only about 15 inches wide so a friend with a bandsaw resawed it for me into several thinnner pieces. I was hoping to get closer to 2 1/2 inches out of it just for the sake of logenivity (from repeated flattening), but functionally the thickness is really good. Plenty strong enough and a good thickness for holdfasts.

Also, just some food for thought. Before I got the beam I had been planning on just using 2x12s laid flat to make the top. At one point I emailed the Chris Schwarz to ask him about the best way to make it thicker. He said that for this bench there was no need to make a Roubo style laminate top and that if he were to build it again he would just face glue two layers of the 2by boards.


Sacrebleu!!! Eeet ees sacrilege! Monsieur Roubo is spinning in his grave! An English bench in New Orleans?!! :eek:

Beautiful bench, make sure you do an followup after you've got a few projects using it under your belt. I love that you angled the legs, that's one thing about the NickelSchwarz that I really like. The aesthetic of it just tickles my fancy.

Well there's quite a bit more English than French in me. Besides in a year or two, the bench (along with me, my fiance & our two cats) will be moving northward (near Philly) to be closer to her family. So Mr. Roubo and New Orleans will just have to deal with it until then!!!:D

and oh yeah, I'll be sure to post an update once I break in it.

[harry strasil]

Really nice bench and workmanship, each person must make their bench to suit their needs and ideas, and work with what they have at hand.

Thanks for posting, you will always be proud of YOUR bench and its design.

[Dan Andrews]

Looks like a very versatile and well crafted workbench.

[Staffan Hamala]

1. The front vise is a slanted leg vise. It’s amazing! It’s rock solid and the clamping capacity is huge (can cover 8” to the right of the screw). The picture shows a 10” wide board clamped in it. I had considered making a twin screw vise instead, but MAN am I glad I went with this.
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I really like the vise. :-) I've never seen a slanted one before.

I've been thinking of leg vices for a long time. I even considered making one when I built my bench a year ago. I'm starting to think it was a mistake not to make the leg vice instead.

I'm not happy with my current vice. The most annoying thing is the racking. After using my bench for a year, I've found that I mostly just use the right hand side of the vice, which means that I always have to have something in the right thickness to clamp in the left side of the vice just to make it clamp properly. Also, even if I would decide to go on using that vice, I would have to mount it more solidly, as the force of the vice has managed to loosen it. I think this has happened because I only clamp things on one end of the vice, and I sometimes forget (or I'm too lazy) to clamp something in the other side of the vice every time.

So, I'm planning to make a leg vice instead. :-)

What kind of wood did you use for the vice? I've used oak for much of my bench, so I'm thinking of using oak for the new leg vice as well. It should be hard enough..

[Archie England]

Congrats on a great bench!! I got to go over and see this brute. Chris did a fabulous job on the design and execution. The slant legs fantastically resist racking, and the sheer weight of the bench makes it appear "immovable." Chris, WELL DONE!

BTW, don't forget to put some handle grabs in the runner board between the two main sections of the bench top.

BTW, Chris has already completed a number of beautiful projects. This guy has talent!

Arch, near NOLA

[Trey Palmer]

Your bench looks sweet. I really love the slanted leg vise!

[Chris Griggs]

Hey folks, just want to thank everyone again for their compliments on the bench. I've seen so many inspiring benches on this forum and been given so much wonderful advice (and a few wonderful tools) by fellow Creekers. I love seeing other folks workbenches, and was really excited/proud to be able show off my own bench and contribute something cool to this wonderful source of woodworking information (that reminds me I will need to add it to the "show us your bench thread).

There's something about workbenches that seems to inspire all of us woodworking geeks. Workbenches, good, bad, and ugly, remind us of all the creative possibilities woodworking offers. They remind us of all the things we might create some day, and that regardless of our current skill level we all have the potential to create beautiful, functional works of wood.



What kind of wood did you use for the vice? I've used oak for much of my bench, so I'm thinking of using oak for the new leg vice as well. It should be hard enough..

I used 8/4 soft maple for the leg vise chop (although when hand planing it sure felt harder than most soft maple I've worked; can't help but wonder if its hard maple). I'm sure oak would work fine. In fact I was originally planning on using white oak but my lumber yard didn't have any 8/4 oak in stock. I think just about any hardwood could work as long as it's thick enough... at least 8/4.


Congrats on a great bench!! I got to go over and see this brute. Chris did a fabulous job on the design and execution. The slant legs fantastically resist racking, and the sheer weight of the bench makes it appear "immovable." Chris, WELL DONE!

BTW, don't forget to put some handle grabs in the runner board between the two main sections of the bench top.

BTW, Chris has already completed a number of beautiful projects. This guy has talent!

Arch, near NOLA

Hey Arch, thanks for the comments and very complimentary words. It was fun getting to show it and my other new toys off to you last week.

BTW the bench would not have been what it turned out to be without Archie's help. Archie is the friend I was referring to in an earlier post who gave me the huge 5 inch thick beam (yes gave) and resawed it for me on his bandsaw to build the top. A HUGE THANKS!