1942 MOAK 32" "Special" Band saw restoration

[Brian Weick]

Hello All.... I was asked to put this machine up here on it's own thread.... I did this a while back and blew my cork because I linked this to another forum I belong to and that is not accepted here... I apologize to all of you if you remember - I just was a little annoyed with having to do it all over again.... My appologies...http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/notworthy.gif I respect the rules here...http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif So anyways... I acquired this last year from a member on another forum.. it came from Michigan and is a rare BS from what I have read. They ,made all but 21 of these and I have only seen 2 others .... where the others are.... who knows.....:rolleyes: When I got the band saw - the bottom wheel and the shaft on the huge 3hp/3ph motor had to be machined...that was done on the Kingston lathe (picture) they originally put some shims in to get it balanced but it was not good... and was causing a slight hop in the top wheel so I sent the rotor and the BS lower wheel to O'Connell Machinery- great group of machinist-http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gifI have quite a few pictures to put up so bare with me...http://fototime.com/99CB340AC2B6105/orig.gif The Band Saw wheel was mounted on the Bullard vertical Mill (picture)for machining the center for the steel sleeve bushing.... they froze the sleeve bushing in Liquid Nitrogen and then press fit into the hub...and tapped 2 -5/32nd hex nuts in to keep it in place. (picture) and then when I got back to the shop I reinstalled the rotor back in the motor ,installed the bell housing,tightened everything down and installed the lower band saw wheel back on (picture).

[Brian Weick]

But this all started when it arrived here in Buffalo,NY

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[Brian Weick]

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[Brian Weick]

It's been a while since I have been on the creek and this 1942 is getting a complete restoration... I have developed a steel base assembly for her to pull her out when I need to use her. I am making the same for the Oliver 117A 30" band saw and the American #1 16" "Buzz" jointer. When you only have a 490sqft shop and some rather large machinery,you have to get creative...

Posting it up tonight,

I hope all is well with all of you,

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[David Kumm]

I'm not getting the pictures. Dave

[Steve Kohn]

I can view the pictures only in the first post. The next 3 posts I get the dreaded red X's.

[Van Huskey]

Man do I want to see the pictures!

[Jeff Bartley]

pictures please!!

[Brian Weick]

I can see them with no problems Gents.....if you can't let me know...


Well here is the 1/2" steel plate base assembly - PPG primer/paint /HVLP ......:) hard rubber 800 lb casters- dbl race ball bearing swivel and all casters are needle bearings for the shafts.


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[Brian Weick]

more of the base....


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[Van Huskey]

Great lookingsaw! The pics in the first post and last post work fine the ones in the middle don't, red X.

[Brian Weick]

More of the base,,,


Ill look into that ....



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[Andrew Joiner]

Brain, Great saw. The tables look like mirrors! What's the little spoked wheel by the lower guides?

[Brian Weick]

Now the dissasembly of the Moak 32......



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[Brian Weick]

lots of pictures, I like to take pictures not only for documentation but to aid me in assembling it back together, should I run into a problem.

let me finish uploading, I am going to be here for a while....and Ill get to the questions....OK:)

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[Brian Weick]

More pictures...



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more.....



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Few more pictures....

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still chuging along...

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[Brian Palmer]

Do you plan on putting them 75mm cannon back on or just cutting the panzer tanks in half. Nice saw!

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Last of the dissasembly pictures.....



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[Brian Weick]

Here are the pictures of the prep/casting imperfections/primed, gone over 3 times... painted then the parts, some areas polished first before I paint them...just to much to list what Ive done on her. I have a ways to go but it's coming along....:)


159 pictures, so give me some time.......

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Round 20....and final round up untill I make more progress....

It's an enjoyable project to work on......:)


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[Brian Weick]

Brain, Great saw. The tables look like mirrors! What's the little spoked wheel by the lower guides?
Thanks Andrew, it is a lot of work but a passion of mine.....

That is the lock wheel for the trunion on the main table...-5 to +45 degrees, you can see it in one of the pictures- buffed shaft and wheel sticking out of the side on the main frame...


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[Brian Weick]

Great lookingsaw! The pics in the first post and last post work fine the ones in the middle don't, red X.

I cant edit them because of the time that has past guys, but I will throw up before and after pictures....

Thank you,


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[Van Huskey]

You have done a magnificent job, that saw is stunning!

[Bruce Page]

Brian, now I understand your first post and why you were annoyed about re-posting your build process. It is a lot of time & work to put up all of the pictures and text! (Again!)

But I’m sure glad you did! That is one of the best rebuilds that I have seen! Bravo!http://www.sawmillcreek.org/images/icons/icon14.pnghttp://www.sawmillcreek.org/images/icons/icon14.png

PM me if you have pictures that you would like me to insert into the early posts.


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[Brian Weick]

Thank you Bruce & Van
How do you want me to do that? How come they are not showing for everyone else, but I can see them?

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[Jeff Bartley]

wow! wow! wow! great job! thanks for posting!

[Bruce Page]

How come they are not showing for everyone else, but I can see them?

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Brian, when I look at posts 2,3,&4 in edit mode all I see is broken link icons (see pic). I don’t see any other info like path, etc.

[Van Huskey]

Bruce, if Brian is OK with it you might add "restoration" in the title, this isn't getting the views it deserves and it may be because people think it is a question and not many people would know anything about this saw.

[Brian Weick]

Well,
Thread isn't the same if we skip the beginning, how do you want me to get those pictures to you? I can see what you mean, why I can see the pictures and you guys cant is beyond me, so lets get this fixed if it's ok with you Bruce? Van is write, it's turned into the restoration phase....that's cool with me.....great idea! Thanks Van!

If you can place 1942 before Moak and restoration at the end.....That should explain everything...

Tons of pictures to come as in move along with the Moak.......


Thanks you Bruce....

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[Bruce Page]

Brian, I sent you a PM.

[Don Morris]

Unbelievable, Wow, and many many Thanks for going to the great trouble of posting which has surely made a lot of other people as jealous as hell. Fabulous restoration of which you may be truly be proud.

[Van Huskey]

I kinda hate to ask since you have gone to so much trouble, do you have any specs on it? Max height of cut, weight, table size etc. Does it have Guidall guides?

[Robert Boyd]

Brian,

What manufacturer of VFD are you using? With the VFD it gives you the flexibility to cut metal also. I see it has Carter guides also. Beautiful job and money well spent. With the work you had done that should last another 100 years before another rebuild. I have a Silver 36 and the older saws are a beauty.

[Van Huskey]

I was guess you had an RPC based on the other machines you have, but if you are using a VFD are you concerned about the insulation on the motor. I personally would be paranoid using a VFD on a low speed direct drive motor like that, re-winding it wouldn't be cheap and you can't just run out to Grainger to get a replacement.

[Brian Weick]

Thanks for correcting the title Bruce- thumbs up!

Thank you Dan,

Van & Rob
All my 3ph machinery is run on YASKAWA VFD drives, no RPC .


I am using a YASKAWA VFD rated at 19.5 amps out designed for 220single phase input. The drive I am using protects the motor and itself if it sense variations in voltages or strain. The windings, yes I was concerned about this and bought a spike filter L350 between the drive and the motor. There was one small problem, it was the wrong type. I was running the motor at 5 hrtz to clean the wheel for the new rubber when I get to that and there was this god awful electrical smell and I could not for the life of me figure out where it was coming from, that was until I touched the L350 spike filter, nearly burned my hands. Come to find out after some research it is intended to protect the VFD , not the motor so I called my rep and told him what happened and what I found out and he felt awful and is going to knock off some money on the V1000 I am buying for my Oliver 88D ( that's on here as well).
I could have fried my VFD because the L350 has capacitors across the coils that should not be used between the motor and the VFD. There is another spike filter that I will be using, the correct model that is used between the VFD and the motor.
I ran my motor on the Moak band saw on 5 hertz after I removed the L350 to finish up what I was doing and the motor was room temperature, not even warm but I will not run the machine with out that filter when it's completed. The biggest concern with VFD's and old motors is voltage spikes as you know. I have talked with the rep from YASKAWA and they feel confident that it will not damage my motor do to the built in safety features of the VFD , he explained it to me a while back and basically sounded like he was talking in Greek to me.......lol

For the most part from what I got out of him, if I run it at full throttle (60hertz) there is no strain on the windings, it's when the hertz gets lowered that the windings are under strain.


The specifications on the Moak......
3hp/3ph /575rpm/13.4 amps Master Motor
32" from blade to the back spine
14" max throat opening
-5/+45 main tilting table 31" x 32"/ rear table 13" x 16"
Weight w/mobile base 1850#
Built in 1942 ( serial number later- don't have that info on my iPad)

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[David Kumm]

The info I received from the electrical people was that possible old motor damage from a vfd was possibly an issue when running 440 voltage but not at 220-240. Running the motor too slow is a while different deal due to the cooling. In fact my motor guy says there are more problems with old motors run off a RPC due to the imbalance. I don't remember the technical details, the only part that made it to long term memory was "some motors just don't like some RPCs". I had an old machine that ran better off the vfd and the Phase perfect than my RPC. Granted the RPC has not been rebalanced since I got it but it serves as a backup. The PP is the closest to true utility three phase of all three choices. Dave

[Brian Weick]

The info I received from the electrical people was that possible old motor damage from a vfd was possibly an issue when running 440 voltage but not at 220-240. Running the motor too slow is a while different deal due to the cooling. In fact my motor guy says there are more problems with old motors run off a RPC due to the imbalance. I don't remember the technical details, the only part that made it to long term memory was "some motors just don't like some RPCs". I had an old machine that ran better off the vfd and the Phase perfect than my RPC. Granted the RPC has not been rebalanced since I got it but it serves as a backup. The PP is the closest to true utility three phase of all three choices. Dave

Hey Dave,
As far as the imbalance on the RPC.......that is what I have read. It's difficult to decipher what is legitimate information or a biased opinion. I think it all depends on how well built the RPC is....but I am no rocket scientist....lol

My understanding of the PP is that it basically is a VFD without the variables.....

I will admit that I am totally biased with using VFD's on 3ph machinery. I have never had any issues with either the drive or the motor they are running, just that L350 filter. Problem I see is guys are buying used VFD's and they don't get the appropriate unit, mismatched or just not built or designed to well. I know the YASKAWA drives are expensive but I actually get great pricing all the drives I have are NOS with the exception of the v1000 that I will be ordering. All of them however were designed for 220 single ph input so there is no derating necessary.

I wish we had a VFD guru on one of the sites we belong to.....there is so much.....disinformation out there and it gets difficult to decipher heads from tails


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[David Kumm]

Brian, I agree although I am one of those guys that has bought used vfds with no problems but you do have to get the better stuff. The PP people are pretty adamant that their system does not produce the same " chopped up" -my non technical term- waves the a vfd does. Don't know the real deal but my machines seem to run stronger than on my Kay. All pretty subjective though. If you find a good used PP in the $1500 range it is worth the risk as the company is very good about repairs if needed. Mine have been fine an the quiet is nice. Dave

[Robert Boyd]

Brian,

Thanks for putting in the info about the VFD. I looked on their website and might be missing it but I see the input for single phase but it does not show the output in three phase. Do they make a drive with single phase input for a 5hp three phase output?

[Brian Weick]

Yea,
V1000, 19.4 output rating, lots of bells & whistles....

Using this for my 88D 13.6 amp rating, 5hp 3pm
..I am not in my shop today, but when I get there tomorrow I'll be sure to post The exact model#

The V1000 is the series, the model numbers fluctuate based on the size.




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[Brian Weick]

Hey Rob,
Here is the model # ... CIMR-VUBA0018FAA



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Last pics till the next round....... :)



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[Van Huskey]

Looking great! I have seen a lot of BS restorations on the net and end the wild and yours is probably the most thorough I have seen!

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[Brian Weick]

Now the technical phase of this project........http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

My favorite ....."Pattern Making".......http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

I had to design the bottom enclosure for the Moak and make it with keeping the original design aspect in mind. I changed a few things but there was a reasoning behind that. When I got this band saw.... after restoring it there were a few things that were not write, tin for the top-and it had bond on it so thats getting replaced, had to straighten the rim- was slightly askew- not any more. The bottom enclosure was basically jury rigged to get it to look pretty and functional...it's all getting replaced. The original dust chute that was made was not designed correctly and i could not go to a 45 degree angle because of this.. I had to remove it every time i wanted a 45. Not that it was a pain, more so a nuisance ....
Anyhow,
I am off to the plasma cutters Wednesday with my DFX cad drawing for the plasma cutter. it is all getting 1/8" steel plate for all the individual parts for the enclosure and the upper door panel...


Interesting project....

the other 3 will be a LOT easier.... no fabrication required......hopefully.......http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gifhttp://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/laughing.gif

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[Brian Weick]

last few pictures......till the next round.....
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[Van Huskey]

Still enjoying the pictures a lot! I know how much trouble this level of documentation is and it is appreciated.

[Brian Weick]

Welding is all completed for the enclosure, just have to weld the 3 hinges on (with pins-) . I took some snappers of the CNC plasma cutter.... man, i would LOVE to have one of these..., the things I could do......

I'll be back on the enclosure for the finishing phase this week...


Here we go........http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/theogrit/1sm213sharepopcorn.gif


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[Brian Weick]

That's my Brother.... I could not have done this the way I wanted to without breaking the bank, so to speak, so a big hand for him on doing this for me....http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/notworthy.gif


Is there any way to dump 8 pics at one time....http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/thinking-006.GIF (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=3060fc7ffb3b6d570042ee19e8cd34e0&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex2%2F&v=1&libid=1327861375798&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easyfreesmileys.com%2Fskype-emoticons.html&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2F&title=The Emoticon Thread. - Page 2 - Off Topic (Non Trade) - Contractor Talk&txt=<img onload%3D)



This takes for ever....http://carriganpainting.com/other/161011197_l.gif..




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[Brian Weick]

http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/computer-31.gif ...........Yep-http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-random-smileys-274.gif (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=3060fc7ffb3b6d570042ee19e8cd34e0&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex2%2F&v=1&libid=1327861509100&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easyfreesmileys.com%2Ffaceboo k-smileys.html&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex3%2F&title=The Emoticon Thread. - Page 2 - Off Topic (Non Trade) - Contractor Talk&txt=&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13278615767151)



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[Bruce Page]

Still enjoying the pictures a lot! I know how much trouble this level of documentation is and it is appreciated.
Ditto what Van said!
Everyone should have a CNC plasma cutter!

[Brian Weick]

...........http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-cool-smileys-268.gif





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[Brian Weick]

Cleaned up the wheel well troth and getting ready for the filler, prime & paint....


that's all for know folks...http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-happy-smileys-456.gif (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=3060fc7ffb3b6d570042ee19e8cd34e0&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex2%2F&v=1&libid=1327861509100&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easyfreesmileys.com%2Ffaceboo k-smileys.html&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex3%2F&title=The%20Emoticon%20Thread.%20-%20Page%202%20-%20Off%20Topic%20(Non%20Trade)%20-%20Contractor%20Talk&txt=&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13278616583102)

until the next round....




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[Brian Weick]

More updates......




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[Brian Weick]

Continued......
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[Brian Weick]

moving along....http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-random-smileys-274.gif (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=3060fc7ffb3b6d570042ee19e8cd34e0&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex2%2F&v=1&libid=1327861509100&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easyfreesmileys.com%2Ffaceboo k-smileys.html&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex3%2F&title=The Emoticon Thread. - Page 2 - Off Topic (Non Trade) - Contractor Talk&txt=&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13278615767151)



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[Brian Weick]

...........http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/theogrit/1sm213sharepopcorn.gif



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[Brian Weick]

still uploading......http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/computer-31.gif


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[Brian Weick]

last of the pics till the next round.......http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-happy-smileys-456.gif (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=3060fc7ffb3b6d570042ee19e8cd34e0&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex2%2F&v=1&libid=1327861509100&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easyfreesmileys.com%2Ffaceboo k-smileys.html&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex3%2F&title=The Emoticon Thread. - Page 2 - Off Topic (Non Trade) - Contractor Talk&txt=&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13278616583102)


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[Van Huskey]

Looking very good! I am enjoying the progress.

[Brian Weick]

Yesterday I decided to finish the hinges for the enclosure door and blade access box. I decided to put a little "Bling" into both doors by using a brass piano hing for both. I am very happy with the outcome and I think it will present itself very well...
The enclosure boxes both the wheel enclosure and blade access box are 11ga steel plate and the doors were made from 12ga.
I cut off the remaining bolts flush to the steel plate panel door/ the enclosure and blade access box after the hinges were mounted.
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[Brian Weick]

Thats all for now until the next round.......http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-happy-smileys-456.gif (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=3060fc7ffb3b6d570042ee19e8cd34e0&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex2%2F&v=1&libid=1327861509100&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easyfreesmileys.com%2Ffaceboo k-smileys.html&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex3%2F&title=The Emoticon Thread. - Page 2 - Off Topic (Non Trade) - Contractor Talk&txt=&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13278616583102)


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[Brian Weick]

Finished the rear blade guard today and installed the handles.... http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/thumbup.gif

Only item left is that upper door panel and the rear mesh guard... and then I can start with the finishing.... I am almost home....... http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/thumbup.gif

Pictures later tonight..Or tomorrow ..I am on the run.......http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-character-smileys-469.gif (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=3060fc7ffb3b6d570042ee19e8cd34e0&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex2%2F&v=1&libid=1328747336567&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easyfreesmileys.com%2Ffaceboo k-smileys.html&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2F&title=The Emoticon Thread. - Page 2 - Off Topic (Non Trade) - Contractor Talk&txt=&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13287474603132)

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[Van Huskey]

Keep it up, she is looking great!

[Gary Herrmann]

Sweeeeeet.

[Brian Weick]

OK.....
next dump of snappers...
Here we go!!!!.......






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[Brian Weick]

This is the last of the pics till next the next round....http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-happy-smileys-456.gif






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[Van Huskey]

She is looking very nice indeed! I find myself more anxious to see the end results every time you post an update!

[Brian Weick]

OK,

Here we go, sweet and simple, pictures are self explanatory, and no, it's not finished.......http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif just preparing myself....http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-fighting-smileys-476.gif

but you get the idea....http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

Many Thank's to you Kent and Blackfly from CT for all the help ,Thanks Gents,,BIG TIME!!!!http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif I ran yours on the plasma cutter as well Blackfly, identical to Kent's with no issues...Both dry runs before the cut....

Now you know what I am doing with my Helical turbine plate...http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

and there's a little Oliver in that closing latch......http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/whistling2.gif..


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[Brian Weick]

More pictures,,,,




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[Brian Weick]

Continued...

plasme cutter went to town on some 10ga steel plate, I'll have some video of that, going to be a few days,,,



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[Brian Weick]

And the last 4 pics for now untill the bext round.....http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-happy-smileys-456.gif (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=3060fc7ffb3b6d570042ee19e8cd34e0&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex2%2F&v=1&libid=1329518038952&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.easyfreesmileys.com%2Ffaceboo k-smileys.html&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.contractortalk.com%2Ff22%2Fem oticon-thread-94323%2Findex3%2F&title=The%20Emoticon%20Thread.%20-%20Page%202%20-%20Off%20Topic%20(Non%20Trade)%20-%20Contractor%20Talk&txt=&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13295180692402)





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[Brian Weick]

Here is the video...




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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC9X6V79LkI&amp;feature=youtu.be

[Van Huskey]

Thanks, enjoyed the video, nothing like the 4th state of matter to cut with!

Looking better all the time.

[joe milana]

Nice! Is that a reproduction of the original cover, or your own design?

[Brian Weick]

The design is not original to the saw....if you look at the beginning of this restoration you will see what it looked like originally, and it is Moak's original configuration. As far as the replacement, they call this a serpentine spoke layout, as in reference to the HB Smith band saw wheels, but I don't think that's correct., but I am not sure.. I thought it looked a little Helical, a little turbine, so that's what I came up with.......

It was my design from paper, but a buddy of mine from another forum worked it into a CAD -DFX for the plasma cutter for me..-THumbs Up Kent!!!!





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[Brian Weick]

Well, http://fototime.com/99CB340AC2B6105/orig.gif


After a full 5 weeks of projects (work) - I am free once again to start back on the Moak.....


updates coming soon.....:)


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[Van Huskey]

I am sure she missed you and we look forward to the new progress.

[Brian Brightwell]

Brian, did you have the table tops resurfaced?

[Brian Weick]

Hey Great name!..... (little biased) ....LOL.

No,
they were done by the prior owner.....

Working on her today....more plazma cutting....some Plexi.....

moving along,,,

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[Brian Weick]

Well,.....http://fototime.com/99CB340AC2B6105/orig.gif
I finished the back HTP today, dry fit... everything went OK.., no problems.....http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif so far...http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/laughing.gif

So more work on her tomarrow... lots of pics but I am starving and need to get out of here....http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/laughing.gif

Lot more pictures tomarrow... http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif



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[Brian Weick]

Well,
I figured our what I wanted to do for the Angle read and how.
The 90 & 45 degrees are the blue temp markers. you turn to the left(counter clockwise to get to the 45. I will be stamping those in...and then fill it with green paint then wiping it off to highlight the markings.
You can see what was there- always had to take the single handle out ,turn it 90 degrees (stopping at the underside of the table) and insert it back in to get to a true 45 degree angle ...
Fished prepping the wheels, guards, trunnion, Gage wheel, lower inclosure..... priming and painting tomarrow.... the end is coming....:clap::laughing:

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[Van Huskey]

Love the tilt wheel, I assume you plan to remove it for blade changes?

[Brian Weick]

The adjustment wheel comes off to change the blade, as pictured ......I had a comment on another forum about this, 45 min to change the blade, lots of negative comments lately........?

It has been at an all time high over at the mothership.....

My plexi idea is getting bashed, the base is going to crack because of my design, lots of criticism to deal with lately....


I can deal with criticism pretty well, but lately, it's just been piling on...........

The time i spend loading pics and showing what I did takes some time, and the reason I do this is so some other person can use the information and pics if he or she needs to see how a particular area goes together, or how to fabricate a certain piece. ....to be helpful in aiding for a restoration on a MOAK band saw......

That's all,....

The Internet is a strange place ,with some strange feedback sometimes.......LOL

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[Bruce Page]

The internet is indeed a strange place, we have become a society of critics. Read the article responses of most any blog and they are about 8-1 negative, regardless of the subject matter. The old adage “If you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all.” has gone by the wayside.
Hang in there; don’t let the naysayers get to you.

[Brian Weick]

Thanks Bruce,,
I can understand having different opinions, it's expected,... but the negativity is what gets me......

its OK , it rolls right off my back Bruce but its just the amount of it ....well....


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[Thomas Hotchkin]

Brain
Great looking saw, and you have done a out standing job on this rebuild. 1+ what Bruce said. Keep up the good work. Tom

[Van Huskey]

Brian, I am actually sorry I mentioned it since I had no idea, I do think you know I wasn't being negative just thinking your choices through in my mind. It isn't their saw and it isn't their shop and it is obvious you aren't trying to start a museum. One modifies equipment to make it better/safer or just to fit their own needs, I like what you have done even though it wouldn't look the same in my shop but then I would probably garner more ire from the purists! You are doing a great job and I have really enjoyed your thread!!! Don't let the "father-less" grind you down!!!

[John A langley]

Brian - One of the many problems posting in a forum, either starting a thread, or responding to one, there is absolutely no way to read the individual's facial or body expressions. Thereforre we don't quite understand how to take what somebody has said. I know I am probably guilty of not choosing my words carefully. One of the other problems is I think people have forgotten the difference between constructive criticism and just plain criticism. I have found your thread to be very interesting. I think you have done a marvelous job. Not only will you have something that will work very well for you but you will have something to be proud of. Keep up the good work.

[Brian Weick]

Well,.....http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/theogrit/1sm213sharepopcorn.gif
been busy, to say the least......
I was going over everything that I have "Re- vamped" to the Moak 32" special and the list is quite extensive.

the upper guard enclosure - fabricated
the upper guard closure mechanism- fabricated
the lower guard enclosure - fabricated
the lower guard closure mechanism-fabricated
the lower guide dust assembly/plate design and enclosure- fabricated
the upper guide guard assembly is all fabricated
the rear blade guard between the upper and lower wheel guards - fabricated
the electrical enclosure - fabricated
the control unit (speed control and on/off ) - fabricated
the upper guard enclosure lighting system full 34" radius- fabricated
the bottom guard table light (1/4 radius of 32> 1-13/16"w x 29-1/8"L) - fabricated
the lower guard enclosure lighting system full 28" radius-fabricated
the carriage for the Dolley - fabricated
the table tilt handle all fabricated

I have not yet dived into the pregnant folder named MOAK to get the final tally .....kind of frightened to look........ , but I will have them! it is what it is......

Since getting back on her,Ive been constantly thinking in bed at night , now how can I improve this without affecting that, what controls do i want access to on V7 control terminal.... hows the upper guide guard going to work out.....how can i remove dust efficiently and affectively in the lower guide chamber....and on and on and on.........there really is a lot to consider...when fabricating,....but I love it!!!!!! LOL .....must be the German in me..... EX: The upper guard plate was another area I didn't like, not user friendly and not very good coverage as far as protection. If you raised the upper guard assembly 2" off the table & up to 13" you could not open the door because it was blocking the door and you may forget and then smack the backside if you wanted to change the blade. ...so what I have devised is a LOT more beefy and does not impede the door from being opened... no mater how far up you raise the upper guide...all the way to 13" and you still have access to opening the upper guard chamber.




Everything as far as odd and ends as far as fabrication have been completed...just detailing details - if that makes any sense,,,,(puzzled emoticon)...and I have to finish the brushes for the lower wheel, although.... I don't really think I need them because of the lower guide design and all that was involved with that. I hooked up the DC , ran some stumpy logs through her and there was no dust on the wheel ( the rubber) and just a few specs in the lower guard housing, and i mean specs.. ....pictures to fallow. but just as a precaution I am putting them on anyways there was a lot of thinking that went into that lower guide housing and mechanics...... lots....and a few headaches...LOL , but I am very pleased with the set up and how everything came out, it was well worth all the effort I put into it and ill be doing it again........NEXT!/........


I will have some final end result pictures of the Moak 32" "special" when I purchase some white sheets for a background...want to have some nice clean pictures....and nothing in the back... Ill be able to reuse them for the 20C, the 117D, the 88D, and the American 16" J.... and no more fabricating......THANK GOD!!!!!!! I need a break!!!!!

The display is showing RPMS of the motor drive... set at max 600

more to come....http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-party-smileys-799.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html)



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[Rick Potter]

Brian,

This build has been fantastic. It is like watching the progress on a classic car build at a high end shop. I cannot believe the ideas, and improvements you have made to the old lady. I can hardly wait to see the final pics. Jay Leno will probably be calling you to offer a job.

Thank you for taking the time to share.

Rick Potter

[Bruce Page]

I like Rick's analogy to watching a classic car being rebuilt by a pro. It has been fun to watch!

[Van Huskey]

Very clean VFD install. As always thanks!

[Peter Aeschliman]

This thread is so cool!!!

Maybe I missed it, but have you used the saw yet? If so, how does it cut?

[Brian Weick]

Well, http://fototime.com/99CB340AC2B6105/orig.gif
here is a sneak peak on the upgrades, but not the final pics....

These are some of the fabrications and modifications that i have done......

Inside of the V7 enclosure
The lower guide assembly
The control unit
The upper guard unit
The wheel brushes
The table lighting

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[Brian Weick]

More....http://fototime.com/99CB340AC2B6105/orig.gif




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[Brian Weick]

.......few more..http://fototime.com/99CB340AC2B6105/orig.gif


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[Brian Weick]

Well,
.......thats all ,http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-party-smileys-799.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html) untill I get the final quality pictures of the entire Moak 32" "Special" BS.



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[Rick Potter]

Wow,

Details, details, details. Some well thought out upgrades there. If it were a hot rod, it would be called a resto-mod. Love the blade guard.

Rick Potter

[Jeff Bartley]

This has been an incredible thread! Thank you for sharing the work Brian! And I now blame you for my bandsaw madness.....I'm looking at an old saw right now and this has been truly inspiring. Does the lighting inside the cabinets come on when the saw is turned on? And I saw another saw in the background in one of the pics....another project??
Can't wait to see the final pics!!

[mreza Salav]

Wow! that's a sexy looking bandsaw. Better than most new saws on the market. A very well-done job!

[Brian Weick]

Thank's guys for the compliments, means a lot to me, thank you!

The lights .....yes, I actually have a remote for that if I want to change things up. I am putting together some high quality pictures for this machine, you'll see............stay tuned:)


Thanks again guys.....thumbs up!


B,

[Bruce Page]

Crazy cool!

[Brian Weick]

Well, http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/theogrit/1sm213sharepopcorn.gif


I finished the Angle helical rim and assembly for the angle adjustment on the table... 1 more coat of paint on the assembly and it's done. just a few odd and ends and I will have some final photos .......


B,

[Brian Weick]

Last few pics untill next time.....http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-party-smileys-799.gif (http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/facebook-smileys.html).




B,

[Barry Richardson]

Thanks for sharing! Is the motor direct drive to the lower wheel? Dont know much about vintage bandsaws :o

[Brian Weick]

Your welcome,
Yes it is Barry....weighs in at 221 lbs......3hp/3ph...... 575 rpm



B,

[Thomas Hotchkin]

Brain
Love to see your workman ship. All screws evenly spaced, standoffs, metal grill, and flawless paint job way to go. As other have said can't wait to see her in operation. Tom

[Van Huskey]

The thing is GORGEOUS! I really appreciate your work AND your desire to share it!!! BUT, I don't want no saw that it takes "45 mins" to change the blade. SORRY JUST JOKING!!!! I hope that made you smile as it was the intention. You really have done a fantastic job.


BTW for anyone interested it struck me the other day at an auction the number of people that butcher the pronunciation of Moak, there was a whole group of guys (old enough to remember BTW) saying "MOE-ak" it is "MOKE" like smoke.


So Brian what is the next project?

[Brian Weick]

Well,
Probably the 1927 AWWM 16" buzz jointer, then the Oliver 1937 117A 30" band saw, next would be the 1929 Oliver 88D and finally a refresher on the 1909 Oliver 20C pattern lathe.....


Although , it may not be in that order.....

B,

[Chuck Wintle]

Well, http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/theogrit/1sm213sharepopcorn.gif


I finished the Angle helical rim and assembly for the angle adjustment on the table... 1 more coat of paint on the assembly and it's done. just a few odd and ends and I will have some final photos .......


B,

was the angle setter part of the saw originally or added as a modification?

[Van Huskey]

Brian is your AWWM jointer a #1 or #10? I have never seen a #10 in the wild. I have seen a three toed 8" glue jointer (they may have called it a #1 as well).

I vote for the Oliver table saw, do you have all the original pieces?

You are definately going to have some fun and some serious tonnage when you are do to.

[Brian Weick]

was the angle setter part of the saw originally or added as a modification?



Ah......


No,
This may be stripped from here as it is not acceptable, but considering the circumstances ... I hope the moderators will make an exception to the rule.....

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=1033

Moak produced the 32 for less than a year. ..Ron Smith is still employing parts for Moak band saws, although...I have tried to reach him with no luck.

This band saw is unique and extremely rare....there are no other owners , as far as I know, ....

No manuals, no publications, no reprints....absolutely nothing .....but the 26 and 36......all the information I listed is readily available....

I decided that the saw was indeed going to be "special" , I went overboard but Eugene Moak would be extremely proud .....

So after you look , or have the chance to observe the print...that was the setup for the "Original" 32" Moak - from the factory, .....

I did not buy the saw in this condition.....there were some issues....

Although,
I do have documentation from Ron Smith himself, signed about this saw, information, year built....etc..etc...

Infact the folder for this Moak is pregnant....very pregnant.....LOL


B,

[Brian Weick]

Brian is your AWWM jointer a #1 or #10? I have never seen a #10 in the wild. I have seen a three toed 8" glue jointer (they may have called it a #1 as well).

I vote for the Oliver table saw, do you have all the original pieces?

You are definately going to have some fun and some serious tonnage when you are do to.


#1 .......wait till you see that...she is next.....;)

Do you know what 88D I have?.....



B,

[Van Huskey]

I don't KNOW which one you have but since you ask it that way I assume it is rare, so I will take a WAG and ask if it is a concentric wheel with a sliding table and all the scales intact and legible??? I think the scales are muy cool especially the quadrant scale but many of them seem to be worn down over time.

[Brian Weick]

Yes,
Exreamly rare.......http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?172994-My-new-aqusition-The-1929-Oliver-88D-Table-saw-with-slider-amp-consentric-wheel


You posted on that thread.....



B,

[Van Huskey]

Yes,
Exreamly rare.......http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?172994-My-new-aqusition-The-1929-Oliver-88D-Table-saw-with-slider-amp-consentric-wheel


You posted on that thread.....



B,


My brain doesn't remember threads I posted on last week! I did remember someone posting about a concentric wheel here though. I must say before looking back and seeing your post just now I imagined a far more rough example. That thing is already in extremely good shape! I saw you mentioned Bill Kerfoot in that thread, that man moves a LOT of iron. His prices always seem extremely fair compared to other dealers and his stuff looks very nice in pictures when he is finished though obviously for a user not for museum pieces like your finished products.

[Gary Herrmann]

Fantastic job, Brian. 45 minutes to change blades? Who cares. Isn't that why we all want more than one BS? I love the angle indicator. Very clever. Keep up the excellent work.


Gary (Roofer)

[Van Huskey]

#1 .......wait till you see that...she is next.....;)



I vote you paint the guard the same color as the pattern that color guard against a gray machine would look muy caliente!

[Brian Weick]

It doesn't take 45 min Gary.....




I was getting ridiculed ......







B,

[Brian Weick]

Well.......
The 1942 Moak is finished for the most part, I have the angle stop mechanism to install but pretty much she is completed.
I composed a video of her - after 2hrs to upload....http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
It's in HD so you may want to set the quality to 1080..../full screen.
http://fototime.com/99CB340AC2B6105/orig.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlGB5BV63Bc


pictures to fallow, still have to upload those.....

B,http://www.contractortalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

[Brian Weick]

OK,

Here are the pictures, just 3... there is enough on this post already......LOL....

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad89/bweick7/DSC_0003.jpg



http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad89/bweick7/DSC_0016.jpg


http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad89/bweick7/DSC_0014.jpg


B,

[Carl Beckett]

Thats nuts! (in a good way)

What a FUN piece of equipment to own and use. Its like tricking out cars...... but then you have to decide if you want to run sawdust through it.

Thanks for sharing the journey to bring this one to completion, its inspiring.

:)

[Brian Weick]

It's "DEFINITELY" being used Carl....you can count on it!

I have some projects coming up where the Moak will be playing a part,,, there is next to no saw dust because of the design,,, I made several trial runs,,,,,,,

B,

[Rick Potter]

WOW,

That is a thing of beauty. You'd better watch out Brian, that is just the type of machinery Jay Leno would love to own. I hope you get to use it before we see you on the Tonight show talking to Jay about his latest purchase.

Like Carl said, it is like seeing an old collectible car restored to new condition with improvements to make it drive better.

Thank you for sharing,

Rick Potter

[Brian Weick]

Thanks Rich...

This is next...
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad89/bweick7/DSC_0026.jpg

and these fallow- including the 1929 Oliver 88D..(not shown)
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad89/bweick7/DSC_0025.jpg





B,

[Bruce Page]

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/images/icons/icon14.png http://www.sawmillcreek.org/images/icons/icon14.png http://www.sawmillcreek.org/images/icons/icon14.png http://www.sawmillcreek.org/images/icons/icon14.png http://www.sawmillcreek.org/images/icons/icon14.png Over the top+10, Brian!!! I’d love to see it up close!
I’m pretty much speechless! Awesome video!

[Van Huskey]

Gorgeous, one of the coolest "resto-mods" I have seen. It really is gorgeous. One of the things I like the most about that saw is the guide bar counter weight, small detail I know but it is just neat, and the Moak on the blade guard.

The jointer looks so small when it is in pieces! The work you put into the guard pattern alone...

The planer looks so out of place. :D I don't think you ever mentioned a planer in line for restoration, is that the next search? Oliver, Newman, Buss...?

[Brian Weick]

No Van...
I like my 15" Jet finish planer and it has served me very well without any problems. I really don't want a 2-3000 pound 24" planer, it's impractical for me and the width would never be used... most I ever run is 12-14" and it isn't that often. It's not OWWM but neither are my drivers,drill, miter saw, router. Bicq jointer, ....etc..etc..etc.
Some of those older machines are NOT finish planers (as you know), not to say that you can't get a good finish surface but they are more so geared for production and mass quantities of continuous product-sizing.
I am not a "production" geared company...quite the opposite...one of a kind creations for the most part..

If my operation were of a different nature, larger shop.... you bet I would....

Thanks for the compliment...


B,

[Van Huskey]

Brian, I understand. I wasn't dissing the Jet, 4 post planers are quite solid machines. I just figured with the rest of your machines an arn planer might be in your future. If you ever do go that route it sounds like an Oliver 399 would be right up your alley, nice compact (though heavy) 18" finish planer.