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Deane Allinson
03-13-2011, 12:17 PM
a couple of people here suggested that I should turn a softer wood while I am learning. I had a fair sized piece of walnut to try out. It is much nicer to turn. I even got long skinny shavings. I only have a single piece of sycamore left that is suitable for turning and then its back to my hard stuff. Any secrets to turning hard dry woods? I only have a 1/4" bowl gouge. The walnut bowl is pretty Plain Jane. A salad bowl type. 3" tall x 7 1/2" wide. At least I didn't have to stop and sharpen my gouge 3 or 4 times. I promise to stop posting everything I do, once the new is worn off my turning attempts.
Deane

John Keeton
03-13-2011, 12:23 PM
Deane, there would be a world of difference for you with a larger bowl gouge! At least 1/2", or maybe even 5/8" depending on your lathe. There just isn't enough cutting surface on that 1/4" to get the job done very well, and the extra mass of the larger tool will help significantly. Not seeing your tool presentation makes it hard to know, but you may not be presenting the tool to the wood in the most efficient manner.

Looks like you did a nice job on the walnut piece! I love turning walnut - very nice wood to cut. It can be a little fussy with getting out sanding marks, but your bowl looks clean.

Mark Hubl
03-13-2011, 12:23 PM
Deane,

The bowl looks good. Secret to hard wood is sharp tools and presentation. I bet on that bowl I would have sharpened my gouge at least a couple of times. I think it is John Jordan that writes on the board in his classes "the answer to your question is to sharpen your tool". I get lazy, then I am always amazed how much more agreeable the wood is with a sharp tool. Keep the pictures coming!

Tim Thiebaut
03-13-2011, 12:34 PM
Hi Deane, I am new to turning as you are, and when I started I bought the Benjamines Best set from Penn State Ind., you can also buy individual turning tools from them at VERY reasonable prices, a 5/8 bowl gouge is only $25 and change...
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/LX230.html
and as John said will be far easier for you to work with then the 1/4 you are useing now. I got one in the set I bought and it is a very nice tool, and for the price you just cant beat them, anyway I just thought I would let you know. Oh and love the bowl!

Don Nicholas
03-13-2011, 1:40 PM
Deane,
From the photos it looks like you are well on your way, If you take the input from the above posts you will see that they are correct. Keep turning, be safe and have fun doing it.

Jon Nuckles
03-13-2011, 1:54 PM
Nice bowl, Deane. Simple and elegant -- very modern looking. The only bowl gouge I had to start was a 1/4 inch; I bought the 5/8 Thompson v shaped gouge and can't believe the difference. Turning is much more fun using it!

Nate Davey
03-13-2011, 2:02 PM
I'll have to agree with the others on a heavier bowl gouge. I really like this "Plain Jane" bowl. The form is very nice and useable. finish is done very well and it has a nice mass to it, which I like.

Michael James
03-13-2011, 3:24 PM
Deane, there are bowl fans out there that would covet that walnut beauty. Pony up the funds and get the right size tool if you're going to continue to turn larger pieces. Life will be easier and funner! Oh, and +1 more for sharpening as you go. How often? As often as it takes to keep a keen edge. There are folks here before you and those following you in - keep the pics coming.

Eugene Wigley
03-13-2011, 3:39 PM
Deane, that bowl looks great. I like the shape and the wood. What did yo finish it with?

Ron McKinley
03-13-2011, 4:18 PM
Love the shape and the grain. You did a great job. A bigger bowl gouge and/or a heavy-duty (at least 3/8" thick) scraper would make that go a lot faster.....Ron

Curt Fuller
03-13-2011, 4:20 PM
Deane, whatever you do, keep posting pictures of your work. I've been turning for quite a few years and I still get a buzz when I see a nice bowl like this. It's a beautiful, clean, simple and well executed bowl. Like Mark H said, the single most important thing you can learn about turning is to keep your tools sharp. Nothing works right with a dull tool. But I also think that harder woods actually turn better, tear less, and require less sanding. But every piece of wood is different and will present it's own problems and merits. And every piece you turn will teach you a way to do it a little better on the next.

That's just a really nice bowl!

David E Keller
03-13-2011, 5:43 PM
Nice looking bowl, Deane... Nothing wrong with posting every one of them. I like to see what others are doing.

I use a 3/8(US)/1/4(UK) bowl gouge quite a bit for fine finishing cuts, but it's not much fun to hog off wood with a tool that small. I generally prefer the 1/2 tool to the 5/8 for most things, but I think you'll appreciate a difference when you get a larger tool. +1 on the sharpening... I usually go to the grinder when I stop to contemplate my next cut. I can think about what I'm going to do while I'm putting a good edge on the tool. When in doubt, sharpen.

Deane Allinson
03-13-2011, 9:13 PM
Thanks for all of the advise and feed back. I just order a larger gouge this evening. I have been finishing pretty much everything with Danish Oil for years, except for hard maple or real light colored woods(furniture, etc.) with "Hope's" tongue oil. It is the least darking of any finish that I have found.
Deane

Bernie Weishapl
03-13-2011, 10:37 PM
Deane that is a really nice bowl. I like the simple form and finish. Good woods like walnut, cherry and maple make learning a lot easier. I also like turning hard wood but sharp tools are a must. They finish easier, sand easier with little tearout.

Jim Burr
03-13-2011, 11:33 PM
What's wrong with this one!? Get a bigger gouge and more wood. Some good DVD's put there, but a lot of good Texas turners too! A new gouge and a tank of gas may be the ticket!

Dan Forman
03-14-2011, 4:16 AM
That's a fine looking bowl, you will appreciate a bigger gouge.

Dan

Baxter Smith
03-14-2011, 8:53 AM
Nice bowl, and no one here ever gets tired of looking!

bob svoboda
03-14-2011, 8:59 AM
Really nice bowl. I agree with larger gouge and I don't think you can sharpen too much. Keep posting your work. Even if you don't like something there is probably something good that will be pointed out for you to put in your memory bank.

Darren Jamieson
03-14-2011, 1:46 PM
I think the bowl looks nice. Good form and the finish is good as well. Do what I did, move your grinder as close to the lathe as possible then you won't feel that it is a pain to have to sharpen. The sharper the tool the better the results. Keep them coming.

Thomas Canfield
03-14-2011, 11:19 PM
Nice looking bowl. You got some good advise about geting a larger gouge, especially for roughing and the hard wood down to the finish cuts. Getting those long skinny shavings are fun. You got to be hooked now.