Loose Tote Stud?

[Johnny Kleso]

I just noticed I have two loose tote studs on my Type 14 bodies..
I never really paid much attention to this but it was bought to my attention..

After checking the OD (outside Diameter) and PD (Pitch Diameter) I fine the newer type studs Stanley stated making around Type 10 (my guess) to be way undersize..

The old style studs had cut threads and a fatter diameter the newer style has rolled threads and an undersize diameter..

The threads are a #12 -20 that is not standard but what is called a Bastard in thhe trade.
To find the diammeter of a # thread you times the #x .013 and add+.060 a 0-80 thread had a .060 dia. and a # 10 has a .190 and a #12 = .216

The Type 14s have an over sized tapped hole and I made some custom studs so to be sure not the pulled the threads out of the body..

I cant fine a 12-20 die any place with out a custom order so I did some thinking and use my 1/4-20 adjustable Lil' Giant Greenfield Tap sets and crank them down to 12-20 rough and finish..

The rough cut is in the tail stock of the lathe loaded foward whic looks backwards and the finis I am holding in the Stock Handle..

If you have a very loose thread you can get an over sized stud of at the least find a Pre-Type 10 stud with cut threads not rolled..

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[Johnny Kleso]

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PS: you can find these Tap and Die sets on eBay for about $60-$80 new they sell for a ton of bucks..
I have a set that goes from 1/4-1" and sells new for $1,500 I picked it up for $66 listed in Plumbing Tools by searching LITTLE GIANT DIE in all of eBay

[Jim Koepke]

I cant fine a 12-20 die any place with out a custom order so I did some thinking and use my 1/4-20 adjustable Lil' Giant Greenfield Tap sets and crank them down to 12-20 rough and finish..

I have done this a few times. It is a real pain since I do not have a metal working lathe.

But you can cut and try to get a custom fit.

jtk

[Johnny Kleso]

I think the best way is to ask a parts seller for a very old cut threads stud..

If you look i the images you can see one is the stock Stanley thread and is smaller
The body is smaller than .216 and the threads are made with tiny wheels that squeeze the metal.. The threads are called ROLLED and are stronger than cut threads but not if they are under thread tolerances and the hole is over like the T14s