Older 20" Rockwell BS... model 28-3X0 or 28-340 is it any good?

[travis howe]

I'm in need for a bigger band saw and seen this today...it's 220v single phase. I don't know the exact model number, as far as I've been able to find is that there were a few different model numbers....the x for schools or military and then standard and then one w/ variable speed....I think.:)

Anyone have one, how is it? Would a newer version be much easier to use?

[george wilson]

I can't see from the picture if that bandsaw has the adjustable guides,or those infernal pick off shims that you have to re stack whenever you put on a different blade. I think both are still offered,but the old fashioned adjustable ones might cost more. Early models were all adjustable.

If it's American made,and you could get Carter guides for it,I'd say go. You need to be careful that it will accept Carter guides,though. I'm not sure about the pick off guides,and if they take Carter replacements.

At the museum,the furniture conservation shop carelessly bought the Delta with the pick off guides. It looked like a pain to adjust,especially those under the table. A truly bad offering by delta to save a few bucks.

[Carroll Courtney]

VS or multi speed models I would think would be for cutting metal,but I'm not sure about that.Also the model for cutting metal will have different guides,again I think.If the price is right,then a different setup oneway or the other will be worth the investment.---Carroll

[Bruce Page]

OWWM has a picture of a restored 28-3X0, you might be able to contact the owner and see what he thinks about it.
Nice looking machine, iIt looks looks it has standard roller guide bearings.

[Van Huskey]

First I think the 28-3X0 was the wood cutting variety and the 28-3X5 was the metal cutting but not 100% sure. As George said the J plate guide system is a real pain and though I did not see the 28-3X0 listed on the Carter site I have seen them on this type of saw but not sure how much fab work the owner did or if they do have an off the shelf solution. Everyone I have known with one likes the saw except for the guide issues.

Bruce, OWWM is now Vintagemachinery.org though OWWM.com is still a working redirection link.

[travis howe]

Thanks all...yeah, it looks like there are other wood tools in the background so maybe it is the standard for wood. Still waiting to hear from the owner. Any other input if this is the wood only model? Would it be better than most of the new sub $1000 band saws out there?

[Brad Patch]

Thanks all...yeah, it looks like there are other wood tools in the background so maybe it is the standard for wood. Still waiting to hear from the owner. Any other input if this is the wood only model? Would it be better than most of the new sub $1000 band saws out there?

It would be far superior to the current crop of import machinery. My 20 inch Delta bandsaw is slightly older than the one pictured. The cast iron table trunnion is massive when compared to more recent offerings. The table itself is very heavy. The whole machine weighs between 600 and 700 lbs. If the machine is in good shape, no cracked castings, good wheels, go buy it! Was shopping at a local woodworking store and their current offering of 18 inch saws seemed very wimpy when compaired to my old Delta Raokwell.

[Bruce Page]

Bruce, OWWM is now Vintagemachinery.org though OWWM.com is still a working redirection link.

Thanks Van. I did not know that.

[Van Huskey]

Better than the sub-1000 crew today, absolutely. Think about what you can get at that price point:

Rikon 18" on sale
Grizzly 513 series 17"
Jet 14" saws
PM 14" saw
Delta 14"
etc etc

Bruce, they changed 1/1/11. Not sure of the reasons, I didn't read the reasoning just noticed the change.

[travis howe]

Thanks again... Are the parts readily available for something like this? Yeah my problem with looking at today's model and something like this saw is I've never seen anything but this newer stuff so I don't know what more this saw would give me.

[Brad Patch]

Thanks again... Are the parts readily available for something like this? Yeah my problem with looking at today's model and something like this saw is I've never seen anything but this newer stuff so I don't know what more this saw would give me.

Assuming there are no defective structural parts, the only other parts that possibly need replacements are Bearings, Wheel tires, electric switches, all readily available. Find someone in your area who has an older model American made bandsaw and then comparable it to the lower priced imports.

[Kirk Poore]

Bruce, they changed 1/1/11. Not sure of the reasons, I didn't read the reasoning just noticed the change.

The change was done to accomodate metal working machinery plus steam engines and old gas engines like hit-and-miss engines.

The discussion group is still owwm.org, however.

Kirk

[Larry Edgerton]

I have that saw and although I have the crappy guides, it still cuts just fine. I plan on changing out the guides, when I get some spare time........

[travis howe]

:confused::confused:Okay... so i'm now sure it's better than what's out there today... this might seem like an odd question but would you pay $800-$900 for one of these saws in really good shape... even if it's 20ish years old?

[Victor Stearns]

I have this saw. I got lucky when I found it for $300. Only issue was the 3 phase motor. Even with the new motor and a set of Carter guides I have less money than a new saw. I Love the saw and am very happy every time I use it.
Victor

[Van Huskey]

Definitely better than anything near the price! I look at this as a saw I would put Carter guides on right away so I would figure $200 for that in my equation. If it is indeed in excellent shape I would not think twice about having $1000 in it after new guides so $800 would be my break point if it was local and I didn't have to move it from several hundred miles away. That said I tend to look it it as a 650-750 saw as thats usually what I see them go for BUT condition is worth the extra money if it is there. I just looked at one recently which just from the one picture you posted "yours" looks a little better. The one I looked at was $675 and I MAY have bought it but it was 3 phase which doesn't bother me BUT it would have cost be another couple of hundred since I don't have a phase converter yet that and it was 300 miles away left me cold.

[Kevin Jaynes]

Old thread I realize, but I'm wanting to focus my question to 28-3X0 owners and this looks like a good way to do it. I've had this saw fro a couple of years and love it just the way I got it. Replaced the stock guides and have made a couple other mods. But I'm trying to find some harder-to-find parts for it, and I have lost the notes I made on what other compatibility models the saw fits. I *think* it's equivalent to the 28-340 in most respects . . . . can anyone verify this?