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Dan Hintz
12-09-2010, 2:13 PM
I have a serious bone to pick with Grizzly, and I think it needs to be out in the open.

Their catalogs are freakin' huge! I don't have that kind of time in my life to peruse so many cool toys, and I certainly don't have the money to pick more than a smattering for my collection. Grizzly is a tool tease, and it's high time someone called them out on it. I think I've spent a good 10-15 minutes per night the last two weeks looking through the book page by page, and I'm only 2/3rds of the way through. I feel Grizzly owes me some money for another highlighter or two... mine is running out of ink.

Amy is giving me some serious stink eye every time the cap comes off of the highlighter (though I could be imagining it from my contact high with the highlighter's solvent). I had to flip past entire sections of the catalog because I knew there was no way I could fit the tools in the workshop. One wall was destroyed to get the Stinger in, I don't believe I can swing that hammer again.

Shiraz? You've been marked. Slim your catalog selection before my credit cards burst into flames.

Matt Meiser
12-09-2010, 2:27 PM
Does this mean the new one is out?

Cody Colston
12-09-2010, 2:33 PM
Amy is giving me some serious stink eye every time the cap comes off of the highlighter

:D:D:D

Craig Ryder
12-09-2010, 2:33 PM
ME too, Grizzly is getting hard to bear.;)

Mark Ashmeade
12-09-2010, 2:47 PM
But then again, the Christmas mini-catalog was suitably concise. Bargains on every page!

Glenn Vaughn
12-09-2010, 2:49 PM
Their catalogs are freakin' huge!

Grizzly's is not huge; my Allied Electronics catalog is 2206 pages.

Bill Edwards(2)
12-09-2010, 2:56 PM
Dan says the catalog is too huge.

To be fair I'd like to hear what short people say about it.:D

Kent Parker
12-09-2010, 3:05 PM
Dan,

Maybe Shiraz could "Kindle" it for you. :D

Matt Meiser
12-09-2010, 3:24 PM
Excellent idea (says the man with the Kindle on his wish list.) Course the photos would be B&W.

scott spencer
12-09-2010, 3:46 PM
Amy is giving me some serious stink eye every time the cap comes off of the highlighter

:D:D:D

I feel your pain...I married an "Amy" that does the same thing! ;)

Rod Sheridan
12-09-2010, 4:05 PM
It's not the Grizzly catalogue I have a problem with, it's the Lee Valley Tools catalogue.

True tool porn.............Regards, Rod.

Harold Burrell
12-09-2010, 4:23 PM
Personally, I like the size of the catalog. It is perfectly sized so that by the timne I get done looking thru one, the next year's comes out.

I then put the old one in the back of my pickup to aid with winter traction.

David Helm
12-09-2010, 4:31 PM
You all must be slow readers. When I got this years catalog back in early January I had gone through it completely the first night (I always have something for bathroom reading). By now I know most of the woodworking stuff by page number, price and color. My complaint is that there is too much metalworking stuff in there. They could double the size with extra WW stuff.

Ron Bontz
12-09-2010, 4:34 PM
For the love of humanity stop talking about it. Springfield is like a black hole trying to suck St. Louis in to the abyss of toy land. Er uh work tool land.:D

glenn bradley
12-09-2010, 4:35 PM
I know what you mean. I spend time looking at metal working machines that I would never even be interested in. That Shiraz is a nefarious demon.

Van Huskey
12-09-2010, 4:59 PM
It's not the Grizzly catalogue I have a problem with, it's the Lee Valley Tools catalogue.

True tool porn.............Regards, Rod.

Ain't that the truth! Hardly a page in it I don't "need" something from.

My only complaint about the Grizzly catalog is the 2011 one isn't here yet. :D

Dan Karachio
12-09-2010, 5:14 PM
Though probably not designed to be, it is perhaps the ultimate in bathroom reading. However, the Lee Valley catalogs are also great material for a similar purpose.

David Helm
12-09-2010, 5:25 PM
Though probably not designed to be, it is perhaps the ultimate in bathroom reading. However, the Lee Valley catalogs are also great material for a similar purpose.

I expect they are all designed to be bathroom reading. It's exactly how they grab us. It would be a shame though for pages to be used for backside extraction in an outhouse (maybe the metalworking pages)!

Mike Cruz
12-09-2010, 5:55 PM
Bill, he just did...:D:D:D

Doug Carpenter
12-09-2010, 6:15 PM
It is big by design. That way if you drop it; it is simply too big to go into the toilet.

Randy Dutkiewicz
12-09-2010, 6:27 PM
I have a serious bone to pick with Grizzly, and I think it needs to be out in the open.

Their catalogs are freakin' huge! I don't have that kind of time in my life to peruse so many cool toys, and I certainly don't have the money to pick more than a smattering for my collection. Grizzly is a tool tease, and it's high time someone called them out on it. I think I've spent a good 10-15 minutes per night the last two weeks looking through the book page by page, and I'm only 2/3rds of the way through. I feel Grizzly owes me some money for another highlighter or two... mine is running out of ink.

Amy is giving me some serious stink eye every time the cap comes off of the highlighter (though I could be imagining it from my contact high with the highlighter's solvent). I had to flip past entire sections of the catalog because I knew there was no way I could fit the tools in the workshop. One wall was destroyed to get the Stinger in, I don't believe I can swing that hammer again.

Shiraz? You've been marked. Slim your catalog selection before my credit cards burst into flames.

Dan,
I couldn't agree with you more! I don't know how many weekend nights my catalog has practically turned itself into my pillow for the night! I've fallen asleep on that HUGE catalog so many times that I believe I have some of the print marked on my forehead! Shiraz is the devil:mad: My wife is like yours too - she tells me I love the catalog and my tools more than I do her....obviously that's not true (hmmmmmmmmmmmm..........):rolleyes:

Jaze Derr
12-09-2010, 6:29 PM
Dan,
I couldn't agree with you more! I don't know how many weekend nights my catalog has practically turned itself into my pillow for the night! I've fallen asleep on that HUGE catalog so many times that I believe I have some of the print marked on my forehead! Shiraz is the devil:mad: My wife is like yours too - she tells me I love the catalog and my tools more than I do her....obviously that's not true (hmmmmmmmmmmmm..........):rolleyes:

"obviously that's not ENTIRELY true"

There, fixed that for you :)

Randall Clark
12-09-2010, 8:21 PM
David,
You read that whole thing in the bathroom? I got just one piece of advice: More fiber in your diet my friend!

Peter Quinn
12-09-2010, 9:16 PM
Hmmm, I feel about the Grizzly catalogue how I feel about the menu at my local diner. Its way too long, there is a lot of repetition disguised as choice, its never the best food I've eaten but it has yet to poison me. I can however afford to feed the entire family there without working overtime that week or selling a kidney. Not once have I drooled on its pages.

Now that darn Felder literature. Those folks are nasty. Who gave them my number? Oh, right, I did. The catalogue is thin, the major choices are few, the expensive options are many, and every thing in there makes me drool a bit. Ok, sometimes a lot. I'd curse the Lee Valley catalogue but at least I can actually AFFORD to own some of the things in there, just not all of them at once.

Don Bullock
12-09-2010, 9:40 PM
Does this mean the new one is out?

I don't have mine yet!:(

Chip Lindley
12-10-2010, 12:34 AM
Nice try Dan! Amy looking over your shoulder as you type that?? lol!

Try multi-tasking! Peruse your too-thick Grizzly catalog while sitting on the pot! The highlighter fumes will serve as air freshener and Amy will be none the wiser. That is, until you build an elegant hardwood magazine rack for the bathroom!

Addendum: There are many of younger generations who never saw a Sears & Roebuck or J.C. Penney general catalog! (those multi-tasked in the outhouse in quite a quite different way) They make the Griz offering look like the grocery insert of a Wednesday newspaper!

Aaron Berk
12-10-2010, 12:45 AM
Why did you guys have to mention the NEW catalog!!
Just when I was getting comfy with the one I have.
I whittled my reading times down to about 10min each session.
When I get a new one, I'm back up to 45-60 min read times.

Here we go again

Kevin W Johnson
12-10-2010, 1:09 AM
I feel your pain...I married an "Amy" that does the same thing! ;)

Should have married a Heather!!! My wife was out in the shop the other evening, and commented on my lack of space, telling me that i need to add on to it. :p She's awesome!!

Dave Lehnert
12-10-2010, 1:15 AM
Am I the only one with a collection of about 10 years of old Grizzly catalogs?

Just thought they would be a great reference for someone 50 years from now.

Cody Colston
12-10-2010, 7:43 AM
Am I the only one with a collection of about 10 years of old Grizzly catalogs?

Uh, probably.

Do you also save your old phone books? :D

Matt Meiser
12-10-2010, 8:17 AM
phone books

What's a phone book?

Montgomery Scott
12-10-2010, 9:31 AM
I solved that problem by moving. So far they haven't found me so I'm saved from that annoyance. In any case their catalog would go in the round file when I received it. After being disappointed by their mediocre machines there was no point in looking further.

Rod Sheridan
12-10-2010, 9:47 AM
What's a phone book?

That's the thing under one leg of the coffee table I made in high school:D

Shiraz Balolia
12-10-2010, 10:35 AM
[QUOTE=Montgomery Scott;1581033]So far they haven't found me so I'm saved from that annoyance.QUOTE]

We're not looking!

Jim Riseborough
12-10-2010, 10:41 AM
Baaahhhahhhahahahaa!

Philip Rodriquez
12-10-2010, 10:49 AM
lol, I just wish I lived closer to a Griz location :D

Bill White
12-10-2010, 10:53 AM
David,
You read that whole thing in the bathroom? I got just one piece of advice: More fiber in your diet my friend!
Solve the entire problem. Eat the catalog.
Bill :D

Max Coller
12-10-2010, 11:14 AM
See the thing is, the metalworking tools represent excellent leverage in the price relativity game. "See my dearest most beautiful and talented and sweet-smelling wife, if I was into that metalworking stuff, a decent, middle of the road South Bend lathe would run me $16,250 plus juice for shipping. In reality, this decent, middle of the road 20" planer I'm looking at is a real bargain at $2295. That's why I'm a woodworker dearest sweet snookums - it's much less expensive, and I can build you furniture while achieving mental peace and a more pleasant disposition."

She's entirely too smart to buy my line of crap, but I have to try anyway and the Grizzly catalog enables my efforts.

Mike Cruz
12-10-2010, 11:31 AM
Good for you Shiraz!

Montgomery, ya kinda asked for that one.;) It wasn't in the "spirit" of the thread...

Dan Hintz
12-10-2010, 11:40 AM
I became more and more surprised as I dug deeper into the catalog. Guitar equipment? I guess I see luthiers using the same tools, so I suppose I can live with that. Gun stuff... Ooookaaaaayyyyyy. Then I hit the surfboard stuff and went "What the...?!"

It's a very interesting collection, and therein lies one of the problems with it. For someone like me who has project/tool ADD, it's like throwing gas on the fire. I see new things to try, and new ways to try them.

Shiraz, you have one of the more unique collections of hobbies I've seen in a long time, a man after my own heart (head?). I'm envious of your position being that close to so many great toys (and the mindset to use them).

Jaze Derr
12-10-2010, 11:49 AM
I became more and more surprised as I dug deeper into the catalog. Guitar equipment? I guess I see luthiers using the same tools, so I suppose I can live with that. Gun stuff... Ooookaaaaayyyyyy. Then I hit the surfboard stuff and went "What the...?!"

It's a very interesting collection, and therein lies one of the problems with it. For someone like me who has project/tool ADD, it's like throwing gas on the fire. I see new things to try, and new ways to try them.

Shiraz, you have one of the more unique collections of hobbies I've seen in a long time, a man after my own heart (head?). I'm envious of your position being that close to so many great toys (and the mindset to use them).

I've seen his guitars in person when I filled a temp position. They are impressive.

Peter Aeschliman
12-10-2010, 12:11 PM
[QUOTE=Montgomery Scott;1581033]So far they haven't found me so I'm saved from that annoyance.QUOTE]

We're not looking!

Zing!! ha ha ha

Mike Ashton
12-10-2010, 12:21 PM
My in-laws are staying with us for a bit, father in law being a die maker opened the catalog the other day and now has both a lathe and a knee mill picked out for the shop going up at the next house. Says I need to "stop playing with that wood stuff and get some real equipment". Guess to him that means metal working...:rolleyes:

Shiraz got me again...

Lee Bidwell
12-10-2010, 1:56 PM
Shiraz, you have one of the more unique collections of hobbies I've seen in a long time, a man after my own heart (head?). I'm envious of your position being that close to so many great toys (and the mindset to use them).

No kidding. Please tell me I'm not the only one who wants to see Shiraz post a shop tour.

Dan Hintz
12-10-2010, 3:54 PM
Lee, funny you should mention a shop tour. I sent Shiraz an email a few weeks back asking for that very thing. No reply on it (yet?), but I'm keeping my fingers crossed :) If it's of the PA store, I'm happy to drive a couple of hours to check it out... and if I bring the Cube and not the Z, I may be forced to come home with a toy or two in the process...

Gene Waara
12-10-2010, 4:05 PM
While we're at it can we also bash Lee Valley? I send way more time drooling all over that catalog.......

Dan Karachio
12-10-2010, 4:46 PM
While we're at it can we also bash Lee Valley? I send way more time drooling all over that catalog.......

Yes! I did mention them a ways back, but who could possibly read all this? When I first saw their hardware selection, it blew my mind. I had no idea. Is there anything they don't have?

Jaze Derr
12-10-2010, 4:52 PM
Yes! I did mention them a ways back, but who could possibly read all this? When I first saw their hardware selection, it blew my mind. I had no idea. Is there anything they don't have?

Pie.I don't think they have pie yet. a serious failing

Matt Meiser
12-10-2010, 5:41 PM
Yeah, what a bunch of jerks. One time they sent me the wrong thing and it took over 60 seconds on the phone to get it resolved. Then they had the gall to tell me to keep what they sent and quickly sent the right thing.

Craig Ryder
12-10-2010, 5:54 PM
Well, Ive ordered my first Grizzly catalog and look forward to some quality time in the bathroom.

David Prince
12-10-2010, 5:55 PM
Dan,

Maybe Shiraz could "Kindle" it for you. :D

Would the Grizzly catalog fry a Kindle due to its size? :eek:

John M Bailey
12-10-2010, 7:49 PM
Am I the only one with a collection of about 10 years of old Grizzly catalogs?

Just thought they would be a great reference for someone 50 years from now.

I've got em back to 99

Justin Bukoski
12-10-2010, 7:55 PM
Well, Ive ordered my first Grizzly catalog and look forward to some quality time in the bathroom.

Craig, I suggest you stick your credit cards in some water and put them in the freezer now. You have been warned.:D

Craig Ryder
12-10-2010, 8:12 PM
Craig, I suggest you stick your credit cards in some water and put them in the freezer now. You have been warned.:D

Does Grizzly make a nice heavy duty frig/frezzer for the shop? Id like the 36" extension table for chips and salsa. Be a no brainer in the polar bear line.

Justin Bukoski
12-10-2010, 8:15 PM
Does Grizzly make a nice heavy duty frig/frezzer for the shop? Id like the 36" extension table for chips and salsa. Be a no brainer in the polar bear line.

Dude, I think they even sell the freezer.

Randy Dutkiewicz
12-10-2010, 9:03 PM
"obviously that's not ENTIRELY true"

There, fixed that for you :)


Thanks Jaze. Actually, not even "entirely true" at all.:p

Terry Fogarty
12-10-2010, 9:29 PM
Does anyone know if Grizzly is imported down here in Australia? Is it rebranded as another name?

Thanks

Karl Brogger
12-10-2010, 9:47 PM
Why was the thread title changed?

Van Huskey
12-10-2010, 10:27 PM
Why was the thread title changed?

I assume because it looked negative to Grizzly when in fact it was not.

I do have a big gripe to air with Grizzly there are just 3 weeks left in 2010 and the 2011 catalog isn't here!

All joking aside wasn't it about 2 weeks into the year when they start arriving?

Dave MacArthur
12-10-2010, 11:24 PM
Glad they changed the title actually... I almost didn't read it, thinking it was just another person abusing the freedom of the internet to post negative comments without fair hearing of both sides... I'd guess that for every person who actually reads the thread and realizes it's pro-grizzly, there are 50 who read the title and go away thinking Grizzly did something wrong and is being bashed.

Funny thread and all, but when I first read it, what came to mind was "Dude...seriously, if you have a problem with Grizzly, is this the way to handle it?" Of course, I'm of the opinion you don't engage in negative feedback with a "bashing thread" for any company. Only reason I read the thread is because I was surprised Dan Hintz would post such a thread--glad I was right ;)

Of course, none of that turns out to apply, it's a funny and enjoyable thread we all relate to, and there was much rejoicing. And with the thread-title change, now Grizzly doesn't end up getting unconsidered and unintended negative consequences. Good job mods!

Mike Cruz
12-10-2010, 11:37 PM
Dave, I almost passed it up, too. But read it for the same reason you did...Dan? Venting like that?

Now, Dan obsessing over tools and a tool catalogue...THAT I believe! I still can't believe he didn't jump on that 30" sander...

Dan Hintz
12-12-2010, 8:58 AM
I still can't believe he didn't jump on that 30" sander...
Who says I didn't ;) :D

Mike Cruz
12-12-2010, 10:26 AM
Actually, the seller told me that someone is supposed to be picking it up Monday... Dan....? You got some splainin' to doooooo....

Dave MacArthur
12-12-2010, 2:45 PM
I have to admit, when I'm looking for some interesting reading just a little shorter than the outstanding Grizzly catalog, I actually like to browse Dan's signature line.

...
Ok, I should honestly admit that I'm not joking too much here, doesn't anyone else get captivated by that list of equipment every few days and think, "WHAT is he doing with all that tech? Building a 'space laser'?" ;)

Mike Cruz
12-12-2010, 5:22 PM
Dave, it is common knowledge that he is building a Space Laser...the question is WHERE is he building it?

Keith Hankins
12-20-2010, 10:49 PM
I love my griz catalog. I've got a small fortune in Green machines. At last count, 1023TS, HZ boring machine, 17" BS, and 12" Jointer. If all goes as expected this srping I need a new jointer and will add one of those (unless I can find some old iron somehere). I love looking at those catalogs. I keep it with all my other respectable reading material. In the can.

Dan Hintz
12-21-2010, 6:43 AM
Man, looks like I missed the last several posts. I have actually run out of characters in my signature, so it's probably for the best the rest of you don't have to see a 3-page sig. I'd like it if I could reorganize it a bit to make it thinner by spreading out the stuff, but I would go over my character limit :(

No space laser, just research for my book...

Carl Babel
12-23-2010, 1:36 PM
Just a few weeks ago, as my 6 year old son was pouring over a Target mini-catalog, I was reminiscing about the Sears catalogs of yore. It hadn't occurred to me that I had found a replacement, until I stumbled upon this thread.

Dan, great thread!

Shiraz, thank you for both the catalogs and the machines (BS now, J/P next year)!

Dave MacArthur
12-23-2010, 7:12 PM
The danger is this... remember when we were kids, you used to look through the Sears and JCPenny and other big catalogs, and you'd find the toys you really wanted for Christmas, and leave notes for your Mom?

Well, I don't know if they even make those catalogs still, my wife just came and showed me--it looks like my 6 and 7 year old boys got hold of the Grizzly catalog, and left some notes in there, "I R a good boy, and wud lyke this Lathe. Also some nice bowl gouges and a Nova chuck, and maybe some DVDs from Grumbine or Clewes".

She was really amazed at their spelling and how much they could learn just from the catalog, and I had to agree--I told her I thought that kind of effort and study should be rewarded, and maybe we should buy them the stuff to encourage them, but I haven't heard back from her on that yet...

Steve Clardy
12-23-2010, 7:26 PM
It is big by design. That way if you drop it; it is simply too big to go into the toilet.

That's good. :D:D:D


What's a phone book?

What I was trying to find this morning when we had 15 of the neighbors horses on our place.


lol, I just wish I lived closer to a Griz location :D

75 miles from me, which according the the Boss, is too close. :rolleyes:

Matt Meiser
12-29-2010, 8:31 AM
Well yet another Grizzly issue. Their new smart phone app is iPhone only. An slap in the face to us Android users.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/grizzly-lathe/id378869286?mt=8

Hopefully Shiraz will get to the bottom of this.