Finally, I Made My Bed

[Ryan Singer]

it's done. I sanded it starting with 60 all the way to 220 and then waxed it. My dad made a special wax/ oil mix. he did this by heating up the wax and dropping a small amount of oil. it amde the wax a little easer to penetrate. After it was all waxed, we put it together and then put the side rails in and put the center support leg in. the slats were cut from poplar and then screwed in. see the construction photos at my post in the design forum

http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=15151

the dovetail joints came out nice and tight. here it is in my room!

the pillows don't fall out the back too! ;)

[Keith Christopher]

Ryan,

Excellent job ! a most beautiful job. Love the design also. You clearly have talent there and I'm sure your dad has been an excellent help/resource.


Keith

[Ryan Singer]

thanx Keith! I had fun making it too. my dad has been sick. he couldn't really help at all... if anything he got in the way.. and he really doesn't know what he's doing

[Keith Christopher]

thanx Keith! I had fun making it too. my dad has been sick. he couldn't really help at all... if anything he got in the way.. and he really doesn't know what he's doing

Hehe. A question though, how did you secure the bed frame to the head/foot board ?

[Ryan Singer]

with bed rail hardware. it's good to sink the plate slightly recessed for a tight joint.

[John Miliunas]

That turned out great, Ryan! You're right about the dovetail joints; Came out beautiful!:) Now, this thing about your dad not know what he is doing....:eek: Dang it all, I wish I had a better eye for design. Nice job from start to finish.:cool:

[Roy Wall]

Nice work Ryan!!

Your Dad has advised me several times on tools & their usage......Looks like I can add you to the reference section too:cool:

Did you use a a "queen dovetail saw" from Tashiro's.....????

Great job!!!

[Jim Becker]

Excellent job, Ryan! (Outstanding dovetails...) It looks great in the house, too. Enjoy!

[Mark Singer]

Don't ask me...I just get in the way.... I will have to clean up the shop and put all the stuff away....and take him back to get more wood and my discount and let him use my tools in my shop and set everything up and take the photos....this parent thinggg oyi....oyi it's over rated!

Just kidding we had fun...he is teaching me and I am a fairly good listener:rolleyes:

[Mark Singer]

We set up the bandsaw and cut both pins and tails....I chopped one and Ryan did all the rest. It is difficult to saw in 8/4 and keep the saw straight...it takes a lot of practice...I used a method that is not as frustrating and showed hin the proper saw set ups...tails first...scribing pins from tails...cuttung on the waste side with the pins...chopping at a slight undercut...squaring the table to the blade.

The Tashiro Queen blade is one of my favorites and the Tashiro Laminate/ Dovetail is another great one....thin and effortless for hand work .


Nice work Ryan!!

Your Dad has advised me several times on tools & their usage......Looks like I can add you to the reference section too:cool:

Did you use a a "queen dovetail saw" from Tashiro's.....????

Great job!!!

[Ryan Singer]

Thanks. I am glad to be appreciated amongst some of the best wood workers I know! (you guys!)



Did you use a a "queen dovetail saw" from Tashiro's.....????

about the dove tails... the thickness was scribed then the dovetail was drawn on the end with pencil. the dove tail was cut with a bandsaw using the fence for the thickness depth cut and then then a wedged shape piece of wood was used as a guide for cutting the angles all the same. it was all done with the bandsaw. after this, the other side was layed in a vice and I put the dovetail on top and scribed the shape of the dovetail on the endgrain. this angle was also cut on the bandsaw but this time the table top had to be adjusted to get the angle of the dovetail correct. I cut each of those then flipped the table angle over for the other side of the dove tail. then I chiseled it all out. they pretty much just went together no problem without too much adjustment. scribing correctly is the trick. Ash is kind of a tricky wood. it's really hard, a little sticky when you are chiseling, drilling, working with in general.

I picked ash for it's color, price, the simplicity and beauty of the grain.. it's such a light color, it kinda peaceful like a dream with my white sheets..

I have been resting in it.. I love it!! :rolleyes:

[Corvin Alstot]

Ryan/
I sure like those joints and the color of that ash is very nice. What tool did you use to sand those joints, 5" random orbital sander? Those corner look real clean.

Corvin
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=14371&stc=1

[Ted Shrader]

Ryan -

Exceptional joinery and really slick design. Have been following, with great interest, the progress of your bed in the updated posts.

Well done,
Ted

[Jerry Olexa]

Ryan, Love those dovetails!! Great design and great job!!!

[Dan Mages]

That looks excellent!! Congrats on a job well done. It also helps that you have such great help.

Dan

[Fred Chan]

Beautiful dovetails! Great looking bed! I wish I completed my projects as fast. Could you please elaborate on your special wax/oil finish?

[Ryan Singer]

Hi Corvin. I used a Bosch detail sander in the corners, Bosch random orbital for the main sanding (60, 80, 120, 150, 180), the last bit was on a Festool Random Orbital (220). All my Dad's tools of course... and I did some hand sanding where it needed it..

sand sand sand... it's a nice time to think about the tree and look at the inner beauty.. I fell in love with Ash during the sanding process ;)


Ryan/
I sure like those joints and the color of that ash is very nice. What tool did you use to sand those joints, 5" random orbital sander? Those corner look real clean.

Corvin
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=14371&stc=1

[Mark Singer]

Fred,

I would tell you ....but then I would have to shoot you!;)

Actually quite simple...took a heat gun and melted a small amount pf wax remaining in the can. It was paste wax from Min Wax...the light color...they have dark also.
Then I added a small amount of Daly's Ben Matte which is a polermerized tung oil and mixed them together. I put it out in the sun so it would stay a soft paste.
Then it was applied with a rag...and wipped out with paper towels...You can use any tung oil. Pure tung oil is very slow drying..I never use it



Beautiful dovetails! Great looking bed! I wish I completed my projects as fast. Could you please elaborate on your special wax/oil finish?

[Glenn Clabo]

this parent thinggg oyi....oyi it's over rated!
Just kidding we had fun...he is teaching me and I am a fairly good listener:rolleyes:
Mark...
The scary moments come when you see...more and more...that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I always said my son was like looking in a mirror...but it's fun when I get to spend some time with him.

and btw... Great job Ryan! Humor the old man cuz we all hope you have a son just like you.

[Kirk (KC) Constable]

Those dovetails are beautiful. The guitar will be very happy. :D

KC

[Ken Salisbury]

Super job on the bed !!!!

I would like to point out that I had to remove your signature line from your posts in this thread and some others since it contains a direct link to your web site and also a charity plea. Both are violations of the Terms of Service. Please edit your signature line to remove them.


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[Mark J Bachler]

Awesome bed, Great detail, but lets get to the imporant stuff, What kind of guitars do you play? The one on the bed almost looks like a handmade instrument.

[Ryan Singer]

Awesome bed, Great detail, but lets get to the imporant stuff, What kind of guitars do you play? The one on the bed almost looks like a handmade instrument.

Thanx for noticing Mark,
there are a few guitars in my room.. I have been playing since Jr. High so that means about 19 years.. time flys! the lightest colored guitar was a High School graduation gift from my Dad. it's a steel string Guild D50. it plays great and has great sound full sound. I little on the warm side. it's a great guitar in most people's book

the red brown colored one is a nylon string by Yamaha. the model is CG-160s. It compares with other great nylons that I have played. My mom has a handmade classical nylon string which plays alot nicer. she should take a picture of that thing. it plays beautfully!

The dark brown guitar on the bed is a steel string cutaway. Yes, it is handmade by Mark Angus from the Guitar Shoppe in Laguna Beach. he's a great wood worker. this guitar plays amazingly perfect. it's my favorite to play. it has a nice low action and is very alive. the shape of it is iinteresting because it really pushes the sound out. Talking to Mark Angus about guitars, I realized that shape has alot to do with the sound and also where he placed the bridge. my particular guitar has an extra reinforcement under the bridge which gives it a deeper sound. everytime I see Mark Angus around Laguna I thank him for making my guitar so perfect!

I wish you could hear me play.. :D

[Ryan Singer]

I RECORDED ME PLAYING AT HOME.. HERE'S WHERE YOU CAN HEAR IT

http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/wa/default?user=ryanhsinger&templatefn=FileSharing97.html&xmlfn=TKDocument.97.xml&sitefn=RootSite.xml&aff=consumer&cty=US&lang=en
:D :eek:

[Alan Turner]

NIce job on the DT's, Ryan. FYI, in the Charlesworth books, he shows a DT jig for the BS. Pretty clever. I made one, and have used it only rarely, but always for cutting DT's in really thick wood. The pins are cut on an angled sled, where the wedge forms the angle, and then that same wedge is used against the fence for the Tail cut. Pretty efficient, and very little set up time. YOur Dad and I have the same BS, and it cuts quite accurately.
Alan

[Glenn Clabo]

No too bad Ryan. Did I detect a little David Wilcox influence? Or is he too Dad? Language of the Heart is my favorite...this week anyway.

[Ryan Singer]

David Wilcox is awesome!

He's not my inspiration for playing though.. not really a new years resolution, but more of a thought, I'd like to just play my own songs instead of other people's songs.. get a litte more serious about my guitar habit. maybe make some guitar stands too

I also love Ben Harper, Jack Johnson, Robert Johnson, Albert King, and many many others.. My musical taste varies. I am pretty much all over the board from Rap to Classical music

... a little side note: if you don't have iTunes, download it from Apple.com (http://www.apple.com/itunes) now. I have been listening to all my 8685 songs on these great Bose Speakers (http://www.bose.com/controller;jsessionid=BZp6Lc2cLC5y8zBWDyPHQ9rkKr6q T20JpvKBHyBcYxJJysdvHBVQ!1735365011!736317803?even t=VIEW_PRODUCT_PAGE_EVENT&product=companion3_computer_index&pageName=/home_entertainment/computer_gaming/index.jsp) from Best Buy. one of the best things I bought in 2004 for my computer!!!




No too bad Ryan. Did I detect a little David Wilcox influence? Or is he too Dad? Language of the Heart is my favorite...this week anyway.

[Mark Singer]

Alan,

We mostley used my 14" jet BS since the table tilts both ways you don't need an angled sled. I used a 1/2" 10tpi , .025 thichkness raker blade. It works well.
For the tails we used wedges similar to Charlesworths, If the blade "leads" the wedges for each side are different, you can't just flip it around.



NIce job on the DT's, Ryan. FYI, in the Charlesworth books, he shows a DT jig for the BS. Pretty clever. I made one, and have used it only rarely, but always for cutting DT's in really thick wood. The pins are cut on an angled sled, where the wedge forms the angle, and then that same wedge is used against the fence for the Tail cut. Pretty efficient, and very little set up time. YOur Dad and I have the same BS, and it cuts quite accurately.
Alan

[Phil Winn]

Great job on the bed, beautiful lines and workmanship! Is your finish
similar to the Maloof #2---the oil & wax one--I always loved
that finish--not on using tables and realizing that it can darken some
woods.

I hope to be able to make joints like that-and also be able to work
on some projects with my son as well--
Congrats on a project well done.
Phil

[Glenn Clabo]

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http://www.yenra.com/sound-dock/sound-dock.jpg