Dazzling white on sale...what's the deal

[Justin Dreier]

So, the dazzling white grizzly's are on sale and have been for awhile. Did they overstock on those? Not sure I'm a fan of that change...but heck if the tool works the same, not sure color matters.

What do you think the strategy is?

[Gordon Eyre]

I saw that and don't have a clue why a white tool would have a reduced price. Your guess is as good as any I could come up with.

[Dewayne Reding]

Introductory pricing on the new Polar Bear white. Appliances come in lot's of colors too so why not.

[Jim O'Dell]

I think the Polar Bear series are similar to the normal green, but maybe slightly different features, therefore, different price points. But yes, I believe that the intro pricing is part of it. Just like last year, the new 690/1 table saws were reduced in price. More options for all of us to get the particular set up we are dreaming of! Jim.

[Justin Dreier]

I think the Polar Bear series are similar to the normal green, but maybe slightly different features, therefore, different price points. But yes, I believe that the intro pricing is part of it. Just like last year, the new 690/1 table saws were reduced in price. More options for all of us to get the particular set up we are dreaming of! Jim.

First, I'm a grizz supporter. And I can agree with your thoughts, but when it says it's "identical" to the green version and from the pictures olnine, little things like the handle are different...makes me wonder what else is identical.

I can see some manufacturing savings for a new line and price it accordingly to provide value choices for customers. I was curious if the color change was a marketing approach or whether the polor bear had changes to the design that is not evident by the advertisements.

Could still be substantially just a color change to attract new customers. I'm just not able to evaluate manufacturing or marketing changes from afar.

[Will Overton]

Just wondering if maybe these are all out of China as opposed to Taiwan?

[Dewayne Reding]

I believe some of the new white tools have minor upgrades. The tools I looked at were advertised as virtually identical though, with the little differences listed. I would speculate the changes will become part of the green series tools as the old parts stock is depleted. That is how it would happen if I was Mr Grizzly anyway. :)

[Dan Friedrichs]

Here is an old thread from when the white machines were first introduced:
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=141827

Shiraz made some comments in it, so maybe it will answer your questions.

[glenn bradley]

To quote Shiraz from this discussion (http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=141827) back in June:

"As a matter of clarification for everyone out there - this new series of machines is the Polar Bear series, and they remain a part of Grizzly. In other words, you will find both a Polar Bear label as well as a Grizzly nameplate on these machines."

The introductory price has been out for awhile. The fact that the OP is just asking about it explains why; just because Tom, Dick and Harry know about them, maybe Fred and Barney don't. No indication of how long the intro prices will last but several folks have saved a few bucks by taking advantage of the "stimulus" offering. I would have bought one myself but overlapping sales made the G0453Z a few bucks less than the intro priced G0453PX at the time I made the purchase. Otherwise, mine would be white.

[Justin Dreier]

Of interest is the G0453X versus the G0453PX. Anyone have the PX?

[Dave Lehnert]

Not sure of all the confusion. I looked at 1/2 dozen or so Polar series and all of them say in the first line.
This machine is identical to our model Gxxxx with the exception of the dazzling white color and incredible introductory price .

So if Grizzly says "Identical" then it's identical just painted white. Why white? Maybe testing the water for a new color for the Grizzly line???? Maybe a new line to replace the Shopfox line in retail stores?????

[Dewayne Reding]

Not sure of all the confusion. I looked at 1/2 dozen or so Polar series and all of them say in the first line.
This machine is identical to our model Gxxxx with the exception of the dazzling white color and incredible introductory price .

So if Grizzly says "Identical" then it's identical just painted white....

It does say that for the G0453 Planer too Dave. But the switch is different. The white also has a switch arm, the green does not. Probably no big differences but identical they are not. Unless the catalog pictures are inaccurate.

[Ken Fitzgerald]

Justin,

While the handles do appear different, the spec sheet appears the same.

[Dan Hintz]

Yeah, maybe in this case "identical" means from a spec standpoint...

[Dave Lehnert]

I guess they are not identical. The Polar series has a "P" on the end of the model number.:rolleyes:

[Chip Lindley]

So, the dazzling white grizzly's are on sale and have been for awhile. Did they overstock on those? Not sure I'm a fan of that change...but heck if the tool works the same, not sure color matters.

What do you think the strategy is?

The "Polar Bears" won in Court, but have been in a sort of hibernation. From 2007 til 2009, Grizzly was involved in a lawsuit by WMH Tool Group, over white-painted tools. The general public soon forgets...

http://www.cabinetmakerfdm.com/2024.html (http://www.cabinetmakerfdm.com/2024.html)

Seems there has been an Arctic "cooling-off" period since Grizzly's success in court, defending their adding more white to the coloration of their machines. Now it's either time to forge ahead, or unload tons of dazzling white! But, the "right to white" is a double-edged sword. Although I am no fan of hammered, metallic GrizGreen, the mimmicking of Jet's Basic Blanco smacks of a "me-too" mentality, and ultimately detracts from Grizzly's brand identity.

[Dewayne Reding]

I guess they are not identical. The Polar series has a "P" on the end of the model number.:rolleyes:

After careful review of the many differences, I decided I liked the green one better, and ordered one today. :)

[ken carroll]

I'm glad so many people like Grizzlies! Should make selling my G1023 quite easy - I hope.

Good bang for the buck tools!

[glenn bradley]

It does say that for the G0453 Planer too Dave. But the switch is different. The white also has a switch arm, the green does not. Probably no big differences but identical they are not. Unless the catalog pictures are inaccurate.

The G0453PX is identical to the G0453Z, not the G0453. I have the G0453Z and it has the same switch arm as the PX.

[Van Huskey]

The G0453PX is identical to the G0453Z, not the G0453. I have the G0453Z and it has the same switch arm as the PX.

I was trying to figure out what I was missing...

[David Hostetler]

According to Grizzly, the Polar Bear series are exactly the same tool as the regular green, just in a different color, and with a low introductory price. I don't need any large machines at this point, I mean upgrades would be nice, but not necessary. Okay maybe a wide drum sander, and a mortiser, but I can do what I need to do without them.

Now if I were in the market for new large machines, I would seriously consider the polar bear series tools...

[Dave Lehnert]

The "Polar Bears" won in Court, but have been in a sort of hibernation. From 2007 til 2009, Grizzly was involved in a lawsuit by WMH Tool Group, over white-painted tools. The general public soon forgets...

http://www.cabinetmakerfdm.com/2024.html (http://www.cabinetmakerfdm.com/2024.html)

Seems there has been an Arctic "cooling-off" period since Grizzly's success in court, defending their adding more white to the coloration of their machines. Now it's either time to forge ahead, or unload tons of dazzling white! But, the "right to white" is a double-edged sword. Although I am no fan of hammered, metallic GrizGreen, the mimmicking of Jet's Basic Blanco smacks of a "me-too" mentality, and ultimately detracts from Grizzly's brand identity.

If I have my time line correct. JET (woodworking)use to be blue. Delta came out with a white series cabinet saw before JET introduced the white tool line. If one wanted to argue who was white first, I believe Delta was. But JET was white in metal working tools all along.

[Ken Fitzgerald]

EXCUSE ME?

What does when the colors occurred and who had it first have to do with any differences between Grizzly green tools and the Polar Bear series?

What am I missing here?

[Dave Lehnert]

EXCUSE ME?

What does when the colors occurred and who had it first have to do with any differences between Grizzly green tools and the Polar Bear series?

What am I missing here?

I think it has to do with the OP question of what Grizzly strategy may be with the white line. Seized white tools, Grizzly won, Grizzly introduced white Polar series. Just a wild guess on everyone part but could be possible "why"

[glenn bradley]

I guess they are not identical. The Polar series has a "P" on the end of the model number.:rolleyes:

I just blew coffee on my monitor:D

[Justin Dreier]

Appreciate the insight. The color scheme from a marketing perspective sure makes sense that it could match the desires of more customers. To me calling it identical when it does have visible changes (might be good changes) like the handle, gives me questions about what else changed.

It could be that Grizzly changed the handle on the G0453Z already too and the picture is outdated online. Then, it makes sense.

Guys I'm not questioning the value of Grizzly white, just trying to make a rational decision on the next purchase. I'm intrested then if anyone has the G0453PX yet that they can comment on.