So, who watched "Rough Cut"?

[Dan Karachio]

I guess I am lucky since it is on my PBS station (NJN). I liked the show (first episode was on last night at 6pm for me). He is quite a character and very personable. It was very entertaining, but I'm not sure if I learned everything I needed to learn to build that table. Minor complaints aside, I am glad to see a new show that really focuses on making furniture projects with both power tools and hand tools. I really miss David Mark's show and this is in the same spirit, though with a different personality.

Just for kicks, I cannot image Tommy Mac ever being in the same room as the guys from the Woodsmith Shop show. It would be like matter and anti matter (meaning personality and anti-personality). Not to knock the WS guys too much - they may be a little corny, but I think they excel at detailed instruction, though I may not always be interested in doing exactly what they do.

All I can say about woodworking on TV is give me more more more!

[Neil Brooks]

My affiliate doesn't carry it. I've written to them, asking them to consider picking it up.

I've said, before, that I spent an afternoon in the shop with Tommy and Eli. I think they've got a great formula for success. There's bound to be some tweaking and tuning, in the early days. I just hope I get to see it before the 1st season comes out on DVD :rolleyes:

Also, somebody once described the WS guys as "New Yankee Workshop meets Leave it to Beaver" :D

[Kent E. Matthew]

I have never seen him on TV, but I follow on Facebook.

[Peter Aeschliman]

I'm really disappointed that they don't have the show on my local station (KCTS). I need to write them a letter too.

[Mike Cross]

You guys can't recieve the programs over the air? I only get 1 PBS station on cable, but I can receive this one and 2 more over the air. Just curious, since Woodturning Workshop doesn't come on the PBS station I get on cable, but I can pick it up over the air on one of the others. They are listed as LPB-1, LPB-2 abd LPB-3 for Louisiana Public Broadcasting. They may be available to you and not realize it, like in my case and they are even digital. I have an outside antenna but rabbit ears work also.

Mike

[Neil Brooks]

Mike-

From what I understand, the PBS affiliate for each area may choose TO or NOT TO carry individual shows.

So ... even though you may be able to receive a particular PBS station where you live, that station may NOT be serving up "Rough Cut."

That's the case in my area. I receive the station just fine. The show just isn't there :(

[Ruhi Arslan]

I didn't know about the show but thanks for bringing it up. I've scheduled to record trestle table and dovetail episodes to be "aired" (via PBS) this weekend. I record and watch Woodsmith Shop enduring the most miserable pain listening to their worst than a cheap soap opera script recited in order, one starting the sentence the other one finishing it, with the hope that I'll learn something.

[Mike Cross]

After I posted I went to look for PBS in Colorado out of curiosoty. Here is a link to want I found from Rocky Mountain PBS.
http://www.rmpbs.org/content/index.cfm/fuseaction/showContent/contentID/641/navID/563
I don't know if these stations are close to you but it was worth a shot. If not sorry to hear that you can't recieve the programming. I wasn't aware that the schedules were different for each affiliate. I pick up Woodturners Workshop on the Create channel of PBS.

Mike

[Van Huskey]

You guys can't recieve the programs over the air? I only get 1 PBS station on cable, but I can receive this one and 2 more over the air. Just curious, since Woodturning Workshop doesn't come on the PBS station I get on cable, but I can pick it up over the air on one of the others. They are listed as LPB-1, LPB-2 abd LPB-3 for Louisiana Public Broadcasting. They may be available to you and not realize it, like in my case and they are even digital. I have an outside antenna but rabbit ears work also.

Mike

I am willing to bet that most people can get the show on one of the OTA (over the air) digital channels. Most people are unaware they even exist. Most of the networks and PBS have between 2 and 4 subchannels that are being broadcast OTS.

[Mike Cross]

Thats what I was hoping for them and is why I brought it up. I didn't know about the other over the air channels myself. Glad I found out about them.

Mike

[Neil Brooks]

Mike:

Yup. That's our regional PBS affiliate.

They don't list it on their programming page, I searched the entire site (using Google) for the words "Rough Cut."

I just think they're not carrying it.

I DID reach out to them, by e-mail. Hopefully, they'll let me know ... if they really DO offer it, or ... if not ... if they're' considering it.

[Gary Hodgin]

My local PBS in Nashville begins carrying the show this coming Saturday, Oct. 9 at 4:00.
Gary

[Will Rowland]

Will not be shown in Houston either. Have emailed station several times with no response.

Apparently, they feel "Yanni, Master of the Pan Flute" is more appealing to the Houston audience...

[Chris Padilla]

Shoot! I set up my DVR to record Rough Cut and it recorded the Leonardo DiCaprio movie instead! Now I've got 'er set up to record the ww'ing series....

[Neil Brooks]

Shoot! I set up my DVR to record Rough Cut and it recorded the Leonardo DiCaprio movie instead!

Count your blessings.

If I hadn't gone through ONE more page, I'd have been stuck with a 30 year old Burt Reynolds movie ... and ... one without the Trans Am :o

[Vince Shriver]

[QUOTE=Chris Padilla;1528060]Shoot! I set up my DVR to record Rough Cut and it recorded the Leonardo DiCaprio movie instead!

So Chris, are you going to build a model of the Titanic now that you've seen the movie?

[Chris Padilla]

LOL...I messed that one up, didn't I! I was thinking of "Blood Diamond" when I saw the movie I recorded. I did get the Burt Reynolds' one that Neil recorded. :)

[Richard Link]

Will not be shown in Houston either. Have emailed station several times with no response.

Apparently, they feel "Yanni, Master of the Pan Flute" is more appealing to the Houston audience...

Maybe Tommy can make a pan flute to get them on board... I'm dissapointed as well that they aren't carrying it in Houston. If only we could coax David Marks out of TV retirement...

Richard

[Mark Maleski]

I liked the inaugural episode, I think Tommy kept the most important elements from the podcast. I do wish it was longer so he'd have time to go into more detail on some of the decisions (e.g., potentially trading width to avoid adding a 4th narrow board to the top) and procedures (e.g., making the breadboard).

I also like that Tommy mentioned me by name in the first episode! (He solicited questions to answer on his forum a few months back, and I submitted the question on glue squeeze out). Yep, I think I'm the "Mark M" he mentioned at the end, as the credits rolled. Who wants my autograph?

[Dan Karachio]

... I record and watch Woodsmith Shop enduring the most miserable pain listening to their worst than a cheap soap opera script recited in order, one starting the sentence the other one finishing it, with the hope that I'll learn something.

Ruhi, I hear you there. Perhaps they could sell some of those shiny new PowerMatic tools they have there and use the $ for some acting lessons. Stiff doesn't begin to describe their performance.

[Rob Music]

FYI for those of you in the Kentucky area: I just got an email from KET (Kentucky Educational TV - the local PBS station) and they will begin airing Rough Cut on December 12th!!!

[John M Wilson]

"Yanni, Master of the Pan Flute" ...

If I remember my 80's trivia correctly, that was Zamfir, Master of the Pan Flute.

I think Yanni is some new age dude, but I flunked 90's trivia...:)

[John Shuk]

Ruhi, I hear you there. Perhaps they could sell some of those shiny new PowerMatic tools they have there and use the $ for some acting lessons. Stiff doesn't begin to describe their performance.

Try watching David Marks early episodes. I'm not looking for actors...I want somebody who works wood and Tommy Mac seems pretty in-tune with what I like to see.

[David Cramer]

Wow John, I'm not being argumentative at all, but I didn't see David as being stiff, not even in the early episodes. Maybe he polished it up a little bit and I couldn't see what you did, but I thought he had some pretty good oratory skills in front the of the camera.

I guess that's what makes the world go 'round and continue to keep spinning:).

David

[Trent Shirley]

DirecTV is not airing this show. The only woodworking show I get is Woodsmith Shop.
I tried an OTA antenna once and got very little for reception, we are too far from most of the stations to get a good signal and I cant justify the expense of a nice large outdoor antenna with rotor to tune it.

[John Shuk]

Wow John, I'm not being argumentative at all, but I didn't see David as being stiff, not even in the early episodes. Maybe he polished it up a little bit and I couldn't see what you did, but I thought he had some pretty good oratory skills in front the of the camera.

I guess that's what makes the world go 'round and continue to keep spinning:).

David

I never in any way meant to seem argumentative. I do look forward to seeing them shape up and get more comfy with the camera.

[Callan Campbell]

Will not be shown in Houston either. Have emailed station several times with no response.

Apparently, they feel "Yanni, Master of the Pan Flute" is more appealing to the Houston audience...
You're kidding, right??????:eek: And NOW, by popular request, is a marathon of performances by Yanni, for the next 6 hours............. Just shoot me........

[Dan Karachio]

Wow John, I'm not being argumentative at all, but I didn't see David as being stiff, not even in the early episodes. Maybe he polished it up a little bit and I couldn't see what you did, but I thought he had some pretty good oratory skills in front the of the camera.

David

I would definatly count Marks as stiff, but he did loosen up with time. HOWEVER, he has something amazing to teach and it is very interesting despite the lack of personality in his performance. Woodsmith... not in the same league.

[Peter Aeschliman]

I would definatly count Marks as stiff, but he did loosen up with time. HOWEVER, he has something amazing to teach and it is very interesting despite the lack of personality in his performance. Woodsmith... not in the same league.

x 15,327

I do occasionally learn some decent things from woodsmith shop, but holy crap. The show is over-the-top cheesy... from the commentary to the mullets and the music. Every bit of it... so painful!

[Dan Karachio]

Not to rub it in, but I re-watched the first Rough Cut and I liked it even more. Still, it hurt. Anyone want to take a bet on the price of that flawless 12/4 piece of walnut? $500? $1000? Man!

I digress. A second time around it seemed less blazingly fast and I got some good advice on M&T was well as the spring joint. I don't think I have seen either dealt with the way he did on any show and I really think I learned something. There are two important techniques in a half hour show. Can you really ask for more? "Oh yea baby!"

However, the tenons on the end of the table top... I really wish he would have talked about that more! It was a mystery. At first I had no idea how he did them. Now I am guessing he cut the mortise in the end piece first. Then for the tenons he used a router with some type of edge guide, cutting from both top and bottom the entire width of the to out to the depth of the tenons. Then he cut out the individual sections with a hand saw?

[Neil Brooks]

Dan-

Grateful for the review of the 2nd watching. Glad you chose to share it.

May I suggest that you share your comments with the show -- either through its Facebook page, the website, or ... whatever ? I know Eli is on that other woodworking site -- you know: the one that sounds as if its members are athletes ;)

I watched these guys prep for their shows. They seem to care a LOT about what we want from them, rather than guessing, and guessing wrong.

And what more can we ask than THAT :)

[Mark Godlesky]

I got a response from KAET.

"Eight is planning to add “Rough Cut” to our Saturday afternoon lineup after the first of the year, however I do not have a firm date yet. "

Also for the other show mentioned in this thread

"Season 4 of the series just began feeding in mid-September. It will probably be rotated into the schedule at a later date."

I expressed interest in these last night and got my reponse from viewer services this morning.

[Neil Brooks]

Colorado chimes in:



Thank you for your inquiry. We have not yet found a spot in our schedule for Rough Cut – Woodworking with Tommy Mac. If we do put it in our schedule our website will have all the details. Also, you’re more than welcome to check back in with us in the future to see if we’ve scheduled that series.

[Rick Levine]

Until I saw a showing of a new woodworking program on my local PBS station and located this thread I was amazed that a new woodworking show to replace NYW had finally aired. Little did I know that it was on last year in other markets. I did make a call a few months ago and talked to someone at the station to suggest that I would like to see more shows of that nature and maybe that helped. Tommy Mac is no Norm, but neither was Norm when he first started. I did see a glimpse of a budding personality in Tommy and if he is allowed to continue I think there is great hope.

[Brett Robson]

My affiliate doesn't carry it. I've written to them, asking them to consider picking it up.

That's a shame RMPBS doesn't broadcast it there. They had it running earlier this year here in the Denver area. I have most of the first season on my DVR.

I really enjoyed the first season but I'd like it if he could slow down a bit. Tommy always seemed in a huge rush to get everything crammed into 30 minutes.

[phil harold]

this is how my luck goes
I saw Rough cut three times
each time he built a flag box...

[Doug Morgan]

Every 3 to 3 months our PBS goes on a donation kick and for 3 weeks we are forced to watch how to make money work for you. When the drive is over then we get to watch the scheduled shows. Right now you guessed it we are learning how to make money work for us. And its the same program they show over and over and over.......