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Garrett Lambert
04-06-2003, 3:11 PM
I experimented with some of the 1 1/4 x 8 tpi nuts I purchased last week to make some faceplates. Here are 3: a "normal 5" plate, a 4" vaccuum chuck cup plate, and a 6" flat vaccuum chuck plate,, each showing a different method of attachment:

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The first one I made is on the right. I simply drilled 4 holes through the nut, and countersunk them for 4 #8 wood screws which fastened it to the piece of MDF. I'm not sure why I drilled 4, but it must have seemed like a good idea at the time. 3 would have done. After facing it to run true, I applied a piece of 1/8" closed cell foam with an impermeable backing - the foam shop guy called it a "skin" -with contact cement. I also sandwiched a small piece of the foam between the nut and the MDF to ensure a good air seal.

Having bought a few 3" washers as well, the next was the plain one on the left. This was actually an attempt to see if just a nut and washer could provide a 3" plate on their own. I turned a hardwood arbor to fit tightly inside the nut with a small shoulder that fit tightly inside the washer. With the parts clamped together in a vise, I drilled 3 holes through the washer and nut simultaneously, tapped the nut for 10-24 machine screws, and enlarged and counter-sunk the holes in the washer. When I assembled the nut and washer and put it on the lathe, the wobble wasn't bad, but it certainly wasn't acceptable. With nothing at risk, I took an angle grinder to it while it was spinning to see how closely I could get it to true. A small improvement, but basically futile, so I added a Baltic Birch disk. I mortised it slightly for the washer, epoxied the washer in the mortise, and then drilled and countersunk 3 holes through the washer and the disk. That done, I re-mounted it and faced the disk so that it runs true.

Finally, the cup chuck in the centre. This was made the same way as number 2 except that I simply screwed it together rather than mortising the washer with epoxy, since the vaccuum itself will help keep it all together. The cup is just a 4" ABS connector fitting cut almost in half on the bandsaw - almost, because I retained all of the internal ridge to provide a larger gluing surface for a ring of closed cell foam. A rabet in the MDF accepted the cup which was epoxied in place. Finally, I trued and gently rounded the edge of the ABS, and glued on a piece of foam for the seal.

This was all very satisfying, and not difficult to do. The cost was about $1.50 per nut/washer combo and %1.50 for the ABS.

Cheers, Garrett

Todd Burch
04-07-2003, 9:50 AM
How do you apply vacuum to the assembly while it is spinning?

Todd

Jim Becker
04-07-2003, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by Todd Burch
How do you apply vacuum to the assembly while it is spinning?

In most cases, a vacuum adapter is put on the outboard side of the spindle. It has sealed bearings that allow it to deal with the spinning of the machine. OneWay has such an adapter; another commercial product is available from Packard and Craft Supplies called the "EZ" adapter; some folks manufacture their own. For lathes with a non-drilled (solid) spindle, the Vaccumaster adapter and one from Vickmarc are available on the market.

There is a feature on Vacuum Chucking on my site in the Articles section if you want to learn more about this method of holding work on the lathe.

Garrett Lambert
04-07-2003, 10:26 PM
You start with a vacuum pump, which can be anything from a shopvac, a fridge compressor, a car A/C compressor, or a very expensive commercial unit. Feed that through a vaccuum gauge and a small gate valve to a rotary adaptor that screws onto the headstock's hollow spindle. (No hollow spindle? Specialty chucks like the one I made with the piece of ABS are available that have rotary adaptor built into them.

Here's my set-up. The valve is the thing with the red handle, and the rotary adaptor is the chrome cylinder that replaces the handwheel. It uses the same adaptors as the OneWay chucks so can be transferred in the event you change lathes.

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Happy to answer any questions.

Cheers, Garrett