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Bill Griggs
09-07-2010, 4:12 PM
I have gotten the OK from the spousal unit to build a workshop. I need help deciding if I should build a pole barn style shop or add a shop to the back of our attached two car garage?

Does one way cost more than the other?
Is one better/worse for property value?
Are utilities harder to install in the stand alone?
Is 24'x30' too small?

Any help you can give on the Pros and cons will be appreciated.

Bill

David Helm
09-07-2010, 4:45 PM
There are pros and cons to both ways. Certainly a stand alone is likely to cost a little more than add-on. The plus is you don't have sound pollution or dust pollution going into the house. My shop is stand alone and I love it. Re size; whatever you build will ultimately be too small.

Donny Lawson
09-07-2010, 5:10 PM
I had a 24 x 36 and it was just about right for me but it all depends on what type of work you are going to do.Myself it is just a hobby and I like to have my alone time and this is how I like to do it.Since I am currently shopless right now any size would do with me.If your going to build large items you might get by with a 24x30 for now but will outgrow it fast and add on later.What type of things are you going to build?That will help with your size decision.
Donny

Bryan Rocker
09-07-2010, 8:45 PM
Its interesting that you asked this question. My wife and I have been toying with this for quite some time. She has given me the go ahead to build, however I am torn on whether to extend my current garage to have an additional 24x32 shop or to set it back 5 or 10' and dig it to have a small basement for things such as wires, ducting some equipment etc.......

I haven't engaged an architect yet, one of the down sides I can possibly see is the potential requirement to sheetrock the walls as opposed to OSB/Wood. I am not sure that applies here in Greene County Ohio. I would prefer an attached shop to the garage, however, there are technical challenges to overcome such as footings and the like..........

Don Bullock
09-07-2010, 9:21 PM
... Certainly a stand alone is likely to cost a little more than add-on. ....

Where I live a stand alone build was considerably cheaper that an add-on. I thought the same way as David until I got some quotes. A stand alone shop also has a lower tax rate where I live. If a structure is attached the square feet of the structure are added to the house for figuring the school tax. Check the differences in your area before you decide which one you want.

Thomas Bank
09-07-2010, 9:36 PM
I built my shop detached - the main thoughts being to separate dirt, noise, and fumes from the house as well as the associated dangers.

Cost can depend on a lot of factors dependent on your particular construction situation. Likewise, property values depend on a number of factors including what others have done in the neighborhood, what construction method you choose, and whether the buyer sees it as a benefit or a detriment.

It would help to have details to compare. A detached shop built in the architectural style of the house will be more expensive but also be more likely to add value to the property while a generic pole building will be cheaper but also not add value and possibly lower the value depending on the neighborhood.

Brian Backner
09-08-2010, 7:48 AM
You might also check with your insurance agent.

Building an attached shop - with its attendant risks - high current tools, sawdust, wood, flammable finishes, air compressors, etc. - might drive your costs up to insure the ole' homestead.

Brian

Chris Damm
09-08-2010, 10:03 AM
My shop is off the back of my garage. Actually it used to be the garage and I built a new garage in front of it. Access is through a double door in the back of the new garage. This works out great for loading and unloading. It is also nice not to have to go out in the weather to get to the shop. The shop and the house do not share any walls so the sound doesn't carry into the house. Doing it this way is cheaper because you don't have to build one wall or a longer driveway.

Jim Rimmer
09-08-2010, 1:36 PM
I've done both - 20x30 stand alone and added 16' to the back of a two car garage. Can't give you a read on the difference in costs because it was two different states, 5 years apart and brick shop versus vinyl garage. I can't see a lot of pros/cons either way as long as the garage version doesn't put dust and noise in the house (mine didn't).

The 20x30 was a great size and then I went down to the garage shop (16x24) and now am in the 3rd stall of a 3 car garage (about 12x20). The incredible shrinking shop.:rolleyes: I would be happy with 24x30, three times larger than what I have now. That would seem cavernous (for a little while).

Larry Browning
09-08-2010, 2:13 PM
Here are a few things to consider that I didn't think of until a actually had the shop started and built. We live in the country and in order to have a restroom and running water I had to put in a whole new septic system. Also, I had separate electric service installed and since it was to a non-residential building I had to get commercial rates, not really a big deal just 2 different bills to pay. I moved most of my tools from the garage to the shop only to discover that every time I needed a hammer or drill around the house, I needed to walk down to the shop to get it. I found that I really needed 2 sets of tools in order to avoid frustration of not have a tool close at hand.

But I really do like a separate building. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

David Hostetler
09-08-2010, 4:56 PM
IF you have the lot size to deal with it, a detached building has the advantage of moving the shop, and its associated risks, and isolating it from your living space. 24x30 is WAY larger than my current 2 car garage setup, and I would LOVE that kind of space...

Consider the following pros / cons.

Add on to existing attached garage.
Pros:
Easy access to the house. Your wife can call you in to the house while you are working to help fold the sheets or whatever. Wait... No that's a con isn't it?

Enough said.

Don Bullock
09-08-2010, 5:20 PM
...one of the down sides I can possibly see is the potential requirement to sheetrock the walls as opposed to OSB/Wood...

Anyone wanting to build a shop needs to check local codes. Any buildings in the area where I live must have final approval by the local fore department in addition to building and safety. My shop/garage, as with all new buildings, was required to have a sprinkler system. If I used copper pipe I didn't have to use sheetrock. Since I was planning on finishing the interior I went with plastic piping (much cheaper), insulation and sheetrock on the interior.

Thom Sturgill
09-08-2010, 8:34 PM
I've had a detached garage burn to the ground while I fought with a garden hose while waiting for the fire department to find the right section of the road I lived on. We heard them a block or two away for 45 min before they showed up. So I'm biased AGAINST building connected. I also had a house burn down and take what little bit of a shop
I had with it....

Nuff said.

Dan Andrews
09-09-2010, 5:38 PM
Bill, I live just 70 miles north of you. This may not be your case, but If you are building a garage or woodshop on a slab, and attach it to a structure with a full foundation below frost line, settling and heaving, frost or otherwise can cause a problem where the two structures join.

Noise, dust and fire are also good reasons to at least not attach to the house. I doubled the size of my existing garage so I could have a dedicated woodshop. They are closer to the house than I would like, but not attached.

Can't you hear your wife saying "I know I said you could attach the shop to the house, but who knew you would make THAT MUCH noise" ?

Thomas Bank
09-09-2010, 6:11 PM
This may not be your case, but If you are building a garage or woodshop on a slab, and attach it to a structure with a full foundation below frost line, settling and heaving, frost or otherwise can cause a problem where the two structures join.

Done properly, this isn't a problem. But one has to be aware of what they are understand it or they are going to run into problems!

Van Huskey
09-10-2010, 1:53 AM
In general I prefer stand alone for lots of the reasons mentioned.

As for property value ask a real estate agent, either a friend or if you don't know an agent the one you bought the house or land through. This will vary from area to area.

Ian Parish
09-10-2010, 5:55 PM
I just built a shop, and based on the lot size, house location, neighbors view, my placement of my new shop is five feet from my existing house and existing garage. The roofs are attached so I have a 5 foot breeze way between the new shop and the existing garage. I did the attachment so the shop is part of the house and could be close to the existing house vs. 10 feet away as per building code. This also made the shop need to be 20 feet from the property line vs 10 for a detached building. What this means is I have a nice 20 driveway between the shop and property line and my shop is close to the house for easy movement between the house and shop. I seem to make many many trips between the 2. This placement also gave me the widest shop (38 feet) I could place on this side of my house. The breezeway also gives nice access from the front of the house to the rear of the house without entering the shop, and it doubles as a wind tunnel.

Attaching the shop to the house also significantly added to the cost of the exterior. I had to match the house with rock and stucco work. I also needed to match my garage doors, and I had to match the exterior lights with new lights for the front of the shop and house. so now it just looks like my house has an extra garage door or two.

I never considered fire hazard aspects of stand alone or attached. I guess I will just try not to let either one burn. I am going to build a 8x10 shed for storage of lawn mower gas and lawn poisons way out in the corner of the lot.

My new shop will be multi use, a wood shop area, a metal fab area, and a parking area for trucks and trailers.

Ian