View Full Version : Need advise for Bailey 7 C restoration
Dan Andrews
09-05-2010, 3:41 PM
Happy to say I just picked up a 7C in good overall condition for $20. (other neat tools were included in the $20 too)
The leading edge of the chip breaker or iron cap is worn concave along its leading edge by about 1/64". Unfortunately, it has a nick in it right at the most worn spot. It order to file the edge of the chip breaker square and true will probably require taking off 1/32" or a little less material.
Should I file off that much metal from the end of the chip breaker, leave it alone or something else? Buying another would be a last resort.
Is there a good source on line for dating Stanley planes? I have'nt found one.
:confused:
Larry James
09-05-2010, 3:53 PM
Woodworking at Rex Mill
https://home.comcast.net/~rarebear/planes101/typing/typing.htm
Patrick's Blood and Gore
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0a.html
Also see -
SMC Neanderthal wisdom/FAQs
Item 7 - Rehabbing Old Tools - Metallic Planes
Rehabbing old planes, Bob Smalser and
Fettling old metal planes, Jim Koepke
Larry
Chris Vandiver
09-05-2010, 3:54 PM
Posting a photo would help identify the problem, if there is one.
This site is good for dating Stanley Bailey planes: http://www.rexmill.com/
Jim Koepke
09-05-2010, 6:22 PM
Having Bailey on it is a good start, it was made 1902 or later.
A frog adjustment screw was added in about 1907.
The brass blade adjuster was 1" until 1920 when it changed to 1-1/4".
A cast ring started showing up around the knob in about 1929.
All bets are off for WW II. Many had non-rosewood handles. The brass adjusters and other brass parts were changed to steel or plastic.
After that, I do not pay much attention. Heck, I usually don't pay much attention to any with a raised ring around the knob since I like to have low knobs on my planes.
The chip breaker is fairly soft and easy to bend if needed after filing.
If it isn't causing a problem, I wouldn't mess with it. The less metal removed the better.
I almost always buy extra blades for my planes. Often they come with the cap iron/chip breaker.
Stanley has replacements listed for $17.50 plus shipping.
stanleytoolparts.com/planes.html
jim
Dan Andrews
09-05-2010, 10:50 PM
Thanks Larry, Chris and Jim. I have already found the info. you have given to be most usefull. I have been able to date the plane as a type 11, 1910-1918. Same as my #5 that I like so much.
Following Jim's advise, I will sparingly file off a small burr sticking up from the nick in the cap iron, and leave the slight concave alone at least until I get the rest of the plane rehabed and try it out.
Dan Andrews
09-07-2010, 4:33 AM
Yesterday I attempted to straiten the iron. It was bent upwards a bit on the upper end. I then ground a new bevel edge on it, but found it ended up with a skew (fro one side to the other) I had not intended to be there. I checked my set-up on the grinder and everything was good and square. Closer inspeciton revealed a twist in the overall length of the iron. I straighted that as best I could and ground it a bit more. I still have some bevel leaving about 1/32" exposed at one side of the cap iron and 1/16" exposed at the other end of the cap iron.
There are very slight waves and humps throughout the entire iron. I am now in the market for a new or good used iron. I am also curious how well it will work as is. When I get the refinishing done and the plane reassembled I guess I will find out.
Otherwise the refinishing process is going along well. I will post a pic or two when done.
David Weaver
09-07-2010, 7:53 AM
Dan - given that you got the plane for a song, you could always consider a hock iron and chipbreaker for about $60, i think, including shipping. Craftsmanstudio has had them on a permanent sale and I haven't gotten one yet that's a dog.
If that's too much money, your best bet is to find an iron/chipbreaker of reasonable vintage on ebay - 2 3/8s. Shouldn't be more than about $10 + shipping.
Dan Andrews
09-07-2010, 6:50 PM
I am going to start a new thread "Stanley 7 C refinish pics" because I have included a couple other tools I bought at the same time.
David, Thanks, I think I will start watching for a better iron.
Johnny Kleso
09-12-2010, 2:07 PM
Hi Dan,
If it was me I would buy a replacement blde from Stanley or another better maker but at the least buy one from Stanley
http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp?TYPE=STATICLEFT&PAGE=Support.htm&LEFT=left_support.htm
Call them to order and check the Parts and Service link
New Cap Iron and Blade is $17.50
http://www.stanleytoolparts.com/12-325-1-02-0c-02.html
Glade to see people are still using my website as a reference, I hope to do more updating soon..
Jim Koepke
09-12-2010, 2:48 PM
Glade to see people are still using my website as a reference, I hope to do more updating soon..
The pictures in the type study make it my favorite for ease of use.
I do have an old copy of a type study from the days before your site. I have been adding my own text and pictures. But since the majority of the writing is not my work, it is not for public distribution.
jtk
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