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Steve Schlumpf
08-14-2010, 11:45 AM
Wanted to share my latest hollow form with everyone. I will let everyone guess at the specifics of the piece.

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As always, your comments, opinions and critiques are welcomed!

Thanks for looking!

Alan Trout
08-14-2010, 11:48 AM
It almost looks like some old Pine or Fur glued together. But I know its not glued just the way the rigs of wood are oriented. By the way great form!

Alan

John Keeton
08-14-2010, 11:50 AM
I know....I know....I know.... but, I ain't tellin' !!!!:D As always Steve, your SW form on this is spot on! Really a beautiful little piece.

Dennis Ford
08-14-2010, 11:53 AM
Looks like pine to me. Really nice shape (as usual for Steve).

Jeff Nicol
08-14-2010, 12:01 PM
Steve, Since you live in the UP and I am sure there are an abundance of Tamarack trees, and since the grain looks just like the ones I turn out of Tamarack that would be my best guess. Or like someone else said you found an old beam or post that was maybe Hemlock or fir by the coloration. But I still say Tamarack. The shape does make the grain pop out!

Jeff

Paul Douglass
08-14-2010, 12:01 PM
Looks like Douglas Fir to me. What ever it is I like the piece.

John Hart
08-14-2010, 12:08 PM
I'm guessing that it is about the size of a quarter...and it's some kind of pine.

Ok...I'm probably wrong. But it sure looks nice Steve!!;)

bob svoboda
08-14-2010, 12:11 PM
No idea on species, but a very nice form!

Mark Hubl
08-14-2010, 12:14 PM
Nice form, I am guessing 5 1/2 to 6 inch diamater. Looks old growth to me, cedar or redwood. Probably a reclaimed piece of lumber.

Leo Van Der Loo
08-14-2010, 12:16 PM
Wanted to share my latest hollow form with everyone. I will let everyone guess at the specifics of the piece.

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As always, your comments, opinions and critiques are welcomed!

Thanks for looking!

SPF ???:eek:

Whatever it is you made a nice HF there Steve :D

David DeCristoforo
08-14-2010, 12:44 PM
It's pinforack. And it's two feet in diameter. It's also a sweet looking form.

Pete Jordan
08-14-2010, 12:48 PM
I would guess pine but I know you wouldn't want to gum up the shag:)

Michael James
08-14-2010, 1:03 PM
Obviously bleached maple, and intricately airbrushed with, oh...5 graduated shades for the rings, masked several times to create the interesectig ring as a "faux crotch". Clearly coated with shellac for the amber background tint, a couple of coats of flat lacquer - sprayed of course - and rubbed down with 0000 steel wool. Nice job!:cool:
mj

Andy Hoyt
08-14-2010, 1:04 PM
Looks like a piece of Attic Wood.

charlie knighton
08-14-2010, 1:50 PM
6 x 4

ash, looks like crotch piece

very nice

Josh Bowman
08-14-2010, 2:28 PM
2" wide by 1.5" tall, doug fir?

gary Zimmel
08-14-2010, 2:33 PM
Another beauty Steve.
I'm thinking ash also...

Steve Schlumpf
08-14-2010, 2:58 PM
Here's an additional photo detailing the grain of the HF.

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Hope that helps! :D

David E Keller
08-14-2010, 3:11 PM
It's definitely wood... I think it's round wood. Also could be classified as smooth wood. What? You want the latin name? Smoothus Roundus! Take that Leo.;):D

Oh yeah... Nice looking HF, Steve.

John Hart
08-14-2010, 3:17 PM
I'm not guessing anymore. I think Michael James got it.

Jerry Marcantel
08-14-2010, 4:36 PM
Steve, nice looking 3 1/4" tall, 6 1/2" diameter Osage Orange hollow form........... Jerry (in Tucson) I hope it's osage. if not, back to school.....

Curt Fuller
08-14-2010, 5:13 PM
I'm guessing about an 8" by 5" piece of some kind of northern type pine?

dean griffith
08-14-2010, 5:35 PM
I agree with Charlie gotta be ash . Maybe lightly dyed or even slightly torched

Sean Hughto
08-14-2010, 5:55 PM
It's 24 feet across and 12 feet tall. Made from fiberglass finished with Antique Oil and laquer - lots and lots of laquer. A family of elves lives there.

Nice work!

Bernie Weishapl
08-14-2010, 6:01 PM
Dyed Ash and is one sweet looking HF.

Sid Matheny
08-14-2010, 6:21 PM
If it was soft turning I would go with some type of cypress.

Sid

Roy Lindberry
08-14-2010, 7:03 PM
Looks like Doug Fir to me. Crotch.

Other than that, I can't even guess.

John Keeton
08-14-2010, 7:07 PM
I know.....I know..... I know..... but, I still ain't tellin' !!!!!!:D:D:D

philip labre
08-14-2010, 7:29 PM
Nice form Steve. My guess is Hemlock.

Bill Wilcox
08-14-2010, 8:08 PM
I'm thinking Sitka Spruce. 8x4.
Nice looking tight grain too.

David DeCristoforo
08-14-2010, 8:12 PM
Alright, alright... enough already Schlumpf. (I can't believe I've learned how to spell that.) Spill it. The tension is killing me. BTW, is there a prize for the closest guess?

Steve Schlumpf
08-14-2010, 8:20 PM
David .... I figure there are probably a couple of folks out there that would like to take a guess and it seems only fair that I give them that opportunity.

Not that it matters - but so far only one person has come close - real close - but no clear winner!

As far as a prize - I guess satisfaction in a job well done - or something along those lines! :D

The only other hint I can offer is that the wood has been darkened slightly because it was soaked in Watco 'Natural' Danish Oil. Does that help at all?

Oh - and the wood that I turned is not local to my area. Wish it was....

David DeCristoforo
08-14-2010, 8:35 PM
"...it seems only fair..."

Ah...yes... being fair. I've heard about that.

"As far as a prize - I guess satisfaction in a job well done - or something along those lines!"

Scheech...

Leo Van Der Loo
08-14-2010, 9:22 PM
I still think it looks like Fir, but you you tell me, I'm not certain of it ;-))

Gary Conklin
08-14-2010, 10:00 PM
SYP about 8x6.

Ted Calver
08-14-2010, 10:35 PM
Could be Hemlock?

Maylon Harvey
08-14-2010, 10:36 PM
I think Larch.

Steve Schlumpf
08-14-2010, 11:22 PM
I want to take a couple of photos of the wood this HF came from, also get the dimensions and will post the answer tomorrow morning - no later than 11 a.m.

Thanks for everyone's input! Hope you enjoyed the guessing game!

David DeCristoforo
08-14-2010, 11:23 PM
"...will post the answer tomorrow morning..."

Oh great. There goes another night's sleep...

Nathan Hawkes
08-15-2010, 12:10 AM
I'm guessing its from a heart pine beam of some sort. Just a guess.

Alan Trout
08-15-2010, 1:01 AM
It could also be Cypress. Maybe?

Alan

neil mackay
08-15-2010, 3:03 AM
Hmmm, Looks like Douglas Fir or Oregon as its called down under and probably grown in a reasonably warm climate due to the distance between growth rings.

Some thing along the lines of the pic. No its not my work but from a Japanese turner whose name escapes me at the moment

Gary Max
08-15-2010, 3:34 AM
Broad Leaf Pine------------????????????

Lionel Mercier
08-15-2010, 4:39 AM
Pine tree, Larix perhaps, and iron brush ? air sanded ?
No...it's to simple.
But simple and very nice.:)
Lionel.

Cody Colston
08-15-2010, 7:25 AM
Steve,
Since you extended the guessing another day, I'm guessing Kentucky Coffee Tree.

James Combs
08-15-2010, 8:11 AM
Steve,
Since you extended the guessing another day, I'm guessing Kentucky Coffee Tree.

Ditto on the KY coffee tree.

Faust M. Ruggiero
08-15-2010, 8:50 AM
Steve,
I could grow old trying to guess and never come close. You are a master at creating suspense. Alfred Hitchcock couldn't have done it better. It's too bad we couldn't sell commercial time on this site while we all wait for your answer. SMC could have said it was selling air time for the "Super Bowl" .
By the way, nice turning......as always.
fmr

Jeff Nicol
08-15-2010, 9:03 AM
Steve, Since you said that it is not native to your locale, that puts it somewhere far away. With all my infamous wisdoma and now onto my 3rd and potentially 4th guess. It looks a lot like Yellowheart, and since you said that it soaked in danish oil I think that it would look just like that.

My last and final guess is some old growth southern yellow pine, but as I look at the wood in the pictures more the grain structure and basic under color does not lend itself to the pines or firs. The early and late wood is too small and even to be a pine so I am going with the Yellow heart!

How much longer are you going to tease us? Where did this streak of evil come from? I always thought you were a kind and compassionate soul.

Rescue us from the suspense.......................PLEEEEAAAASSEEE!!!! !

Jeff

Steve Schlumpf
08-15-2010, 10:30 AM
Here are a couple of photos of the wood I used for the hollow form.

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This is an old dry 4"x4" out of Western Red Cedar!

The dimensions for the hollow form: 3 1/4" diameter x 2 1/4" high x ~1/16" thick. I am a firm believer that if you have the form correct - actual size of the piece can be hard to determine. In this case, the very tight growth rings got me to thinking…. would folks be able to guess the size? If not - then maybe I got the form just right on this one!

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This little hollow form is undergoing an experiment of being immersed in Watco 'Natural' Danish Oil for 12 hours, then drying for 12 hours, then back in to soak. I hope that it will eventually become translucent like many of the Norfolk Island Pine pieces that we see. If it works - as hoped - I have plans to turn something for an local juried art contest this November. I will post the results.

Thanks for playing along with the guessing game! Unless I missed someone else - Mark Hubl was the only one to guess Cedar - so he came very close!

Hope everyone had fun! I know I did!

Tom Sherman
08-15-2010, 10:51 AM
Great stuff Steve, had me stumped all the way around. Never considered Cedar at all and the size was a complete mystery. Finish is looking good so far.

David Woodruff
08-15-2010, 11:33 AM
The wood looks like old growth heart pine from the south, or fir, or hemlock. Could be Mulberry. Its either a double crotch or a great job of gluing. Size is probably 6" to 15" dia. x 4"-6" tall. Might be Osage but the color is a little off. I will think some more and I do not a have trouble making up my mind.

David Woodruff
08-15-2010, 11:43 AM
My second opinion. HF from old timber, I suspect fir, not a crotch. I think an old 8" x 10" or similar chunk. Nice tight growth rings. I can not decide if color is natural. This is a nice challenge Steve has presented to us. Being new to the Creek this is a fun game for us turners. Thank You Steve

Mark Hubl
08-15-2010, 11:44 AM
Very nice Steve. That should look really nice after soaked through. It will have a wonderful sheen and feel. Great form. Size from a closeup can definetly be hard to discern.

David Helm
08-15-2010, 11:47 AM
Well, I only got to this forum this morning but knew right away what it was. I was sad to see that you told everyone so quickly. I've been working with Western Red Cedar for 40 years and would never mistake it for anything else. The on edge turning made me hesitate, but not for long. Your oil finish gives it a slightly different color than I am used to, but WRC often shows a variety of colors from nearly white to brown to a very nice red.

Paul Douglass
08-15-2010, 12:06 PM
Even looking at the chunk of wood, I would have switched to fir. Show what I know.

Bill Bulloch
08-15-2010, 1:30 PM
After carefully studying the piece and applying my vast knowledge of wood and after carefully reading "ALL" the post, my guess is "Western Red Cedar".

DID I WIN OR WHAT?

Andy Hoyt
08-15-2010, 2:28 PM
Hey - now come on Steve.

We all know that WRC is a fabulous roofing material; and that roofs protect the attic.

I'm crying foul. :D

Steve Schlumpf
08-15-2010, 3:58 PM
Andy - sorry, but if you had noticed in the photos... that wood was stored and cut in my BASEMENT shop! I am willing to go as far as giving you partial credit for mentioning some kind of wood found in a house - but that's all I am authorized to do at this point in time.

Thanks for playing! Better luck next time!

Andy Hoyt
08-15-2010, 4:06 PM
Yeah, but not when I cast my guess. :mad:

Who's doing all this authorizing malarkey? :rolleyes:

Are we gonna have to fire your "ED" over this? :eek:

Gawd, I need a Moxie! :D

Steve Schlumpf
08-15-2010, 4:09 PM
Wow....... nap time?

John Keeton
08-15-2010, 4:50 PM
...Thanks for playing! Better luck next time!Isn't that phrase right after the lottery ad - "You gotta play to win?"

David Woodruff
08-15-2010, 5:16 PM
I am always in touch visually with South Western pottery from the time of the Anasazi and before. With that said I like the classic form you have created from Douglas Fir.