Finaly making some progress in the shop.

[David Nelson1]

I actually started a few month ago but got hurt and have had to wait fora few very good friends to help out.

The first pic will sort of give ya an idea of the effort prior to 2 weeks ago.

The following pics I hoping I'm putting them in order.
All of the wood working equipment went to storage unit the extra wood laying around the shop got stickered and moved to the basement with my sons help. All my mech. tools and everything under the sun that was left is sharing space in the basement or the deck. I've still got to skim the tape once more, when I can climb a ladder. (that will be weeks coming)

All the equipment is back in the shop but pushed up against one wall in the back of the shop. The 12' trailer loaded with 2090 bdft is in the garage. The electric still has to be installed correctly. That will be weeks in the future. I have have another 1450 BDft that just went into the kiln. all that wood is 8/4 - 10/4 so it will be about 6 weeks before I need to worry about that.

The insulation for the ceiling is R38 and R13 for the walls. I used 4/4's nailed through the concrete block for the wood rack. As many powder actuated nails that went into it it should never move or rack (hopefully).

The cheapest I found a 10 foot step ladder was made by Warner. The Borg and my local hardware store have the same price. 188.00 so I need that before I can get much more done. BTW I did none of the work including moving any of the equipment, wood or junk. I had to hire a contractor for the labor which made me madder than all get out, but what are you going to do with a back and hip injury that was aggravated by falling back wards from the outside of the tub into the tube.

Thanks for taking the time to look!

[David Nelson1]

and more pics

[Paul McGaha]

You're doing some good David.

What is the size of the shop?

PHM

[David Nelson1]

Outside dimension is 32X16X12 foot walls with a 10X10' door. Notice the heat pump hanging in the the only window opening. Works really good.

[David Nelson1]

some inside shots>

[Matt Logana]

Looks like my shop, albiet a tad larger than mine, but all the same. Thanks for the pics, it kinda gives me an idea of what to look forward too.. :)

What by any chance did you use for the floor? Sorry, I cant see too well they are kinda hazy.

[David Nelson1]

Poured concrete with more rebar that you can shake two stick @ as well embedded fiberglass. Poured 8" thick not including the footers that where 3 feet deep.. I'm going paint the floor after I get some primer on the walls. I don't care about a top coat, maybe I should but I don't.

[Matt Logana]

Very Very nice shop, I have to say. I plan to lay a wooden floor, on sleepers with some hand layed blowin insulation(just to give some R value)... but I am affraid that a combustable floor might be off limits, because its attached.

But I digress. Very nice, hopefully you can heal quickly, so that you can complete the shop and get back to woodworking.

[David Nelson1]

Very Very nice shop, I have to say. I plan to lay a wooden floor, on sleepers with some hand layed blowin insulation(just to give some R value)... but I am affraid that a combustable floor might be off limits, because its attached.

But I digress. Very nice, hopefully you can heal quickly, so that you can complete the shop and get back to woodworking.

Matt you have no idea how thi skilling me not to able to hobble around the shop and just fart around. Thanks

[Matt Logana]

Ha... sounds just like me... I love messing with my tools... dont get me wrong, I am always safe, but sawing things is just alot of fun.... lol

[David Nelson1]

I was asked a question whether or not the unit was window or through the wall type. It was a window unit. The block mason made the opening a non standard size so an off the self window would not fit, so I never bought a window, I just covered it up with OSB.

During the reconstruction I had the contractor frame the area and sink a few masonry screws in the shell. That way the unit can be removed from the inside for repair and the shell as well as the insulation stays in place.

I don't know the difference between the two types and its probably better that I didn't. With an 8 inch block there was plenty of support for the unit. It was insulated around all the sides and then some spray foam was used to seal a few crack.

[Joe A Faulkner]

Dave, you mentioned a window mounted heat pump. What make and model? Have you used it in a previous location? I'm remodeling a 22x22 block building and have yet to settle on my hvac.

[David Nelson1]

Dave, you mentioned a window mounted heat pump. What make and model? Have you used it in a previous location? I'm remodeling a 22x22 block building and have yet to settle on my hvac.

It's an Emerson Quiet Cool Md #12MW42HK

12BTU cool I think 10,000 BTU heating.
the following link may help a bit
http://www.diyprojects.info/bb/ftopic34411.html
http://www0.dealtime.com/xPO-Emerson-Quietkool-12MW42K

Joe, this is the second time its been on becasue the shop had no insulation. It dropped it quite a bit in just and hour or so. My shack is 16X32X12' ceilings.

[Nino Maini]

Very cool Shop!! Just wondering, what was your design for the lumber racks? You have a lot of wood so curious how you are storing all of it?

[David Nelson1]

My shop is 32X16X12'foot ceilings. So i borrowed a design and adapted it from a steel wall to a concrete block wall. I made the uprights from 4X4 pressure treated installed 24 on center. This set a weak area in the middle due to the back it nil @ the boot and the top only. My original plan was to drill through the 8' block and use carriage bolts to secure the 4X4 to the wall to avoid racking and just plain failure of it pulling from the wall.

So the center 8x was rip into 2 pieces the one against the wall was 1 1/2 in and e nailed with a powder actuated stud gun the two outside 8 x where in stalled and rack legs where made it never got the dimension I wanted, but I'll think I have enough integrity to hold 2000 bdft..

Your right I have about about 1500 coming out of the kiln in 5 -6 weeks all of this wioodcisf used for flooring will need re sawn since most is 8/4 - 10/4. I still have another 1200c Bdft of reclaimed brown oak, reclaimed but never used chestnut, SYP, Douglas fir 1400 bdftof 60 year old black wall nut with a waney edge, some cherry, English walnut, Siberian elm, and some 1/4 sawn sycamore.

I ve got my hands full due to the past few weeks of medical set back.

BTW here is the original post
http://sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=142654

I have other sheling that can be installed as runn over or stack and sticker on the floor.

[Chuck Dienzo]

That's a pretty nice shop that you're going to have. Do you have a plan for your DC setup? Also, that a whole lot of wood for a self-professed "newbie".... :)

[David Nelson1]

That's a pretty nice shop that you're going to have. Do you have a plan for your DC setup? Also, that a whole lot of wood for a self-professed "newbie".... :)

Hi Chuck,
Thanks foe taking the time to comment. As far Dust collection goes
I have one of those 650CFM Rockler mount on the wall units with the longest hose you can get. Works good for the planer and joint but the dang thing gets clogged (as least with Cherry) right at the impeller. I'm going to go for a one of those 30 gal trash can lids that act as a cyclone and shorten the hose length quite bit. Future D/C will be at least 3 hp and 24-2500 CFM with 6 in PVC. I'm sure there will be more questions when that happens.

Self professed newbie you betcha @ woodworking but not work:D.
I've been cutting bait for close to a year now. Finish the mud and prime the walls then I'm in to setting a 16 work area for the shaper, RAS, and CSMS. Once that done than well see where everything falls in place at.

This is my second attempt to answer you. When I went to YouTube to copy a URL and I close the browser.:mad: Ive added a link to what the shop looked like just after all the machine shop equipment was move out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9I8qXDMEqU

You might find it humours because of the narration and the freaking mess LOL Enjoy.

[David Nelson1]

From my last update I have been in pretty bad heath. I'm doing a lot better and I am finally able to get some stuff done in the shop over the past 2 weekends. A lot of sweeping, throwing stuff out. re-stacking and sorting wood. I think I finally figured out where a few things will go and decided what shop furniture I need to build. I starting rough cutting and dimensioning wood for a bench that was featured in Shop Notes 82? not sure about that. The bench will have 8 drawers IIRC and double doors for larger storage in the center. That should take up a bit of the clutter. I also built a 4 foot upper shelve that expands the width of the shop. The left side of the shop will be about 14 feet of benches with seperate work station for sharpening, etc. Dust collection will remain on wheels for quite a bit of time.

Thanks for looking


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[Don Bullock]

David, you're making progress and feeling better. That's great. Congratulations on your shop project. Enjoy.

BTW --- If you don't have enough for all that wood I can make some room on my lumber racks.

[David Nelson1]

Don, I think I'll relocate it to the floor in the house, a board @ a time. Wanna help :cool:

[Paul McGaha]

David,

Your shop looks really good.

Hope I get the chance to see it up close one of these days.

PHM

[David Helm]

Shop looks great. I just have one question. How do you, and many others like you, stand to work in a place with no windows?

[David Nelson1]

You will I can guarantee that ole man. Soon as I figure out 100% where stuff goes I'll be calling ya.



David,

Your shop looks really good.

Hope I get the chance to see it up close one of these days.

PHM

[David Nelson1]

Hey Dave,
Good question. I wished it did have window but, 1. they take up to much wall space, 2. there is nothning interesting to look at, 3. the location of the shop would not permit any direct sunlight in, 4. it would cost more to construct, 5. If I wanna look out I'll open a 10'X10' door, 6 the space was supposed to be for a machine shop so noise reduction was a consideration, and last but not least the more the revenuers can see the more they can tax you on.

Oh yeah I forgot, Its not the windows or lack of that bug me it's the fact the walls and floor are not painted. Mostly likley never will be either.




Shop looks great. I just have one question. How do you, and many others like you, stand to work in a place with no windows?

[JohnT Fitzgerald]

David - nice work on the shop! Looks like it's really taking shape. I hope you continue to get better.

I noticed your bandsaw - is that the Jet DXPRO? how do you like it?

[David Nelson1]

David - nice work on the shop! Looks like it's really taking shape. I hope you continue to get better.

I noticed your bandsaw - is that the Jet DXPRO? how do you like it?

It's my first band saw so I have nothing to compare it with. I think its a great saw. The resaw capability can't be beat. Very little drift. It did require a bit of TLC straight out of the box. The wheels where not co-planer and the table had to be shimmed .018 IIRC. The problem with the table was the kerf from top to bottom was about 3/16 off.

For example cutting a tenion, ripping the area for the cheeks, when you hit your mark for the depth on the top the kerf would hit the mark. Flip it over and it was no where near the scribed mark. Laying a square to the back side of the blade indicated quite a large discrepancy. I posted a question to the forum for help. Search bandsaw cutting down hill or review the posts I have started to find it.

It tensions and track very good. I'm happy.

[Greg Peterson]

You video looks strangely familiar. Oh! That's right. It looks just like my shop. I got my shop semi-setup and started projects and found myself having to move too much stuff to accomplish too little. I'm not the personality type that flourishes in chaos. I enter into a state of grid lock and nothing is accomplished.

It is interesting how sheet rock really defines the space compared to insulation vapor barrier and studs.

Getting a place for everything is a huge step towards improving work flow. Things get cluttered and messy enough just working on a project, never mind moving that box of junk you've been 'storing' for years, a half dozen times in one afternoon in the shop.